Round2 Acquires Star Wars License
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teslabe
Sr Member
I should have pointed out that there are the pic of the AMT kit compared to the Revell, the painted part are the Revell kit, sorry for the confusion.
teslabe
Sr Member
I was hoping, so much for blind faith.....
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
Sort to hear that. When I did my Revell, I missed cutting out the outermost ring of light in the engines. It’s a slight bug, but not enough to spend the cash on the AMT kit since it looks like that.
Iskelderon
Sr Member
More because some of their other kits have been a pleasant surprise, like the translucent Star Trek Voyager model so people no longer have to drill out all those damn windows.
Avokato
New Member
The guy behind Greenstrawberry.cz offers some awesome aftermarket resin and photo etch parts for the Revell Razor Crest kit. Not a bargain, but if you want to perfectionize your model, maybe wait and hope for a Christmas discount or a complete set of all the razor upgrade kits. There is an engine upgrade set as well. Check out via Google if you like.
Analyzer
Master Member
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
For $75.00, I shouldn't have to upgrade ANYTHING on it!
Analyzer
Master Member
I can't agree more
I always hated the notion of model companies deciding third party after market stuff can fix their errors or lack of detail and yet I have heard that said before by some people at these companies
Sure in some cases photo-etch radar or parts to convert something into a variant make sense. For example converting the 3 geared Falcon to a 5 geared. or replacing early model ejection seats for one from a later model, adding a different weapon loadout etc...
But, I have kits from companies like Bandai, Hobby Boss, Trumpeter and Tamiya that even include those extra details like photo-etch or ultra detailed cockpit etc... as part of their stock kit without breaking the bank.
Back in the 80's and earlier there of course were limitations in the molding process, but in the past 10 to 20 years that is not really an excuse any more
There is nothing worse than buying a relatively expensive kit only to find out they got lazy or cheaped out on parts of it because they figured after market details can fill in the gap. And often those after market details cost as much or more than the kits themselves and require a lot more work
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Analyzer
Master Member
Nice comparison
The Revell kit looks to have better surface details, but the real winner for Revell is that the panel lines look better
However, the panel lines could simply look more like deep gaps than panel lines on the AMT kits due to the more reflective quality of the AMT plastic
I'd really like to see a close up comparison of two fully painted ones. I suspect the end results may not be quite as drastic of a difference in surface details and panel lines
While the Revell does have an interior, it is a bit simplified, but at least it is something passable to start with if you want an interior without any extra work
As mentioned, there does seem to be pros and cons to both and it really comes down to whether you want landed mode or flight mode
The Revell kit looks to have better surface details, but the real winner for Revell is that the panel lines look better
However, the panel lines could simply look more like deep gaps than panel lines on the AMT kits due to the more reflective quality of the AMT plastic
I'd really like to see a close up comparison of two fully painted ones. I suspect the end results may not be quite as drastic of a difference in surface details and panel lines
While the Revell does have an interior, it is a bit simplified, but at least it is something passable to start with if you want an interior without any extra work
As mentioned, there does seem to be pros and cons to both and it really comes down to whether you want landed mode or flight mode
Thanks for the comparisons!
What about accuracy? I read that the Revell one got some details on the outer shell of the engines wrong (iirc, some rather large boxes on the cylindrical part)? How do both kits compare here? Has someone made or seen a detailed comparison of one of the kits to screengrabs?
What about accuracy? I read that the Revell one got some details on the outer shell of the engines wrong (iirc, some rather large boxes on the cylindrical part)? How do both kits compare here? Has someone made or seen a detailed comparison of one of the kits to screengrabs?
Guys I'm a stickler for sharp molds. I don't have the Revell on hand to compare, but in person the AMT is by no means "soft." The plastic has a high translucency like a wax candle which "softens" the details on camera. You absolutely cannot judge this by bare plastic photos. Now, simplified details or missing details...perhaps. I don't know the Razor Crest well enough to say. But It's not soft.
Right. And I don't have another several hundred dollars to make my $50 model accurate... That's part of the reason I stopped building model planes years ago because if you posted your model and it didn't have hundreds of dollars of photoetch, people would crap all over it.
Hunk a Junk
Sr Member
I'm sure we'll get more side by side photos as people start building the AMT, but I've seen what I needed see and I'll go with the Revell. The Revell's details simply look more accurate and sharper. Plus the interior gives me options for display. The Revell's engines need some work, but I'd prefer to do that than have to look at soft or wrong exterior details.
I've been critical of Revell's "buildable toys" approach to other Star Wars kits, but on the Razor Crest and Kylo Ren's shuttle they proved they can do sharp, accurate detail. It's disappointing that R2 whiffed on their first new tool Star Wars kit. That doesn't give me a lot of hope for future kits like the Blockade Runner. It doesn't make me happy to say that because I want companies to do well.
I've been critical of Revell's "buildable toys" approach to other Star Wars kits, but on the Razor Crest and Kylo Ren's shuttle they proved they can do sharp, accurate detail. It's disappointing that R2 whiffed on their first new tool Star Wars kit. That doesn't give me a lot of hope for future kits like the Blockade Runner. It doesn't make me happy to say that because I want companies to do well.
Avokato
New Member
Yeah, sorry for my hint about that possibility and shame on the creators of aftermarket content to give us a chance to make an even better model and requesting some modest money for spending their time to design that stuff. I bought the Revell Razor for less than 45 Euros and got a few coins left for some update parts to have even more joy to build the model.
I understand If you don't like what you get from Round 2 for your money, just don't buy it and maybe they take more effort with upcoming kits. Feel free to blame them. I don't believe they design bad kits as a conspiracy with the aftermarket to make more money to get insanely rich
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
There was a lot more implied then I said, but thank you.
TazMan2000
Master Member
In the past Revell was notorious for releasing kits that were for the beginner to intermediate modeller who cared little for accuracy and sharp detail. Lately, it seems that they have taken more care in designing and producing higher quality and larger models...The SR-71 for example. Since both Revell and Round 2 hold the Star Wars license, the latter should be stepping up and giving the consumer what they want. Round 2 seems to listen to their customers and conducts online polls. I'm not certain if Revell ever did that.
In Canada, both models of the RC are similarly priced, but I haven't seen the Revell RC on the shelves, only online, which may slightly impact R2 sales if buyers choose to shop online...which is trending more.
It will be interesting to see how R2 deals with the competition in their next releases. Is this a one-off for Revell? I guess time will tell.
But in the domination for market share, this is good for the model builder...as long as there are sales.
TazMan2000
In Canada, both models of the RC are similarly priced, but I haven't seen the Revell RC on the shelves, only online, which may slightly impact R2 sales if buyers choose to shop online...which is trending more.
It will be interesting to see how R2 deals with the competition in their next releases. Is this a one-off for Revell? I guess time will tell.
But in the domination for market share, this is good for the model builder...as long as there are sales.
TazMan2000
Analyzer
Master Member
I think the difference was Revell of Germany vs Revell USA developed kits?
i.e. The US developed kits seemed to focus more on the toy aspect snap fit with very few parts while ROG focused a bit more on the higher level kits
Things like the Republic Star Destroyer and Razor Crest being a ROG release while the build and play X-Wings were developed in the US
From what I understand, Revell US is no more
Not sure who was responsible for the AT-AT though. That was a mess
