Hunk a Junk
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Thanks for the rundown. I'm happy about the 1/72 Lab Eagle. I'm running out of space for finished kits (and my wife doesn't want me decorating the entire house with models) so a smaller Eagle with the lab pod will be perfect.
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Dedalus5550
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How is the Anigrand 144 scale Tyderium accuracy-wise? It's very nice with fit and detail, but with shape, seems like there is the studio model, the studio mockup up, and maybe some matte drawings.
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Mike Todd
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Mike Todd
Disappointed that they went 1/32 TIE vs the studio scale. Its still damn cool - but I have to believe Studio Scale would've been so much cooler!
1/144 Tydirium... Meh. an accurate one the same size as the first - Yes please.
Havoc Marauder - Yes please... but again 1/44 is pretty small... 1/72 or larger - maybe in scale with the larger tydirium?
The redone parts on the falcon look great. Its still too flat, and I noticed they did not show the Engine Deck... I'm sure its still hideous, but its the Falcon so I'll get at least one... I can't help myself.
the 1/72 Lab eagle - hell Yeah!
Jedi Dade
1/144 Tydirium... Meh. an accurate one the same size as the first - Yes please.
Havoc Marauder - Yes please... but again 1/44 is pretty small... 1/72 or larger - maybe in scale with the larger tydirium?
The redone parts on the falcon look great. Its still too flat, and I noticed they did not show the Engine Deck... I'm sure its still hideous, but its the Falcon so I'll get at least one... I can't help myself.
the 1/72 Lab eagle - hell Yeah!
Jedi Dade
Analyzer
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Of everything, the Lab Eagle in 1/72 is probably the one I am most excited for after the Razor Crest
The 1/32 Tie is probably next, especially since it is claimed to be in scale with the Vader tie (although I thought that was 1/36 or so?)
Might be a case of going back to the Fine Molds scale tie vs the Bandai scale, i.e. smaller Tie fighter size relative to an X-Wing of the same scale
Just found this over on SSM...
"As in most cases, sizes and scales have room for debate. By our best estimation, we found that the studio miniature was 1/20 scale despite the use of a 1/24 pilot figure. In any case, our wings are about 13 1/2" tall and the cockpit ball is roughly the size of a softball."
That would indeed allow for a smaller Tie Fighter at 1/32 than if the Tie was truly 1/24
In fact, I seem to remember some ancient ILM interview that said the Tie Fighters were originally built to 1/16 scale.
going by the 1/16 scale also explains why Fine Molds 1/72 Tie is smaller than Bandai's 1/72 Tie.
Since Bandai went with a 1/24 scale model, it results in a larger one at 1/72 than a FM of the same scale
Me personallly, I kind of like the smaller tie fighter, although the larger one does fit a bit better with the full size live action cockpit set
The 1/32 Tie is probably next, especially since it is claimed to be in scale with the Vader tie (although I thought that was 1/36 or so?)
Might be a case of going back to the Fine Molds scale tie vs the Bandai scale, i.e. smaller Tie fighter size relative to an X-Wing of the same scale
Just found this over on SSM...
"As in most cases, sizes and scales have room for debate. By our best estimation, we found that the studio miniature was 1/20 scale despite the use of a 1/24 pilot figure. In any case, our wings are about 13 1/2" tall and the cockpit ball is roughly the size of a softball."
That would indeed allow for a smaller Tie Fighter at 1/32 than if the Tie was truly 1/24
In fact, I seem to remember some ancient ILM interview that said the Tie Fighters were originally built to 1/16 scale.
going by the 1/16 scale also explains why Fine Molds 1/72 Tie is smaller than Bandai's 1/72 Tie.
Since Bandai went with a 1/24 scale model, it results in a larger one at 1/72 than a FM of the same scale
Me personallly, I kind of like the smaller tie fighter, although the larger one does fit a bit better with the full size live action cockpit set
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Same, I really like the 1/32. They are also easier to make room for in the office
As with everyone else here, I am looking forward to these for sure!!!
robn1
Master Member
They'll just have to make a new tool Vader TIE then, won't they.
Analyzer
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Although I am not sure how, they claimed the existing Vader tie will be in scale with the 1/32 Tie per Jamie....
As in most cases, sizes and scales have room for debate. By our best estimation, we found that the studio miniature was 1/20 scale despite the use of a 1/24 pilot figure. In any case, our wings are about 13 1/2" tall and the cockpit ball is roughly the size of a softball."
At best I thought the existing Vader Tie was around 1/36, although going with 1/20 for the studio model vs 1/24 will mean a smaller size to at 1/32
for example, if the studio model is considered to be 1/24 and it measured 22 cm, it would be about 16.5 cm when scaled down to 1/32
However, if the studio model is considered to be 1/20 that would only be about 13.75 cm
Of course that means a 1/32 scale pilot would have less room in the 1/20 scale down compared to the 1/24 scale down
It is why the Bandai 1/72 tie is much larger with a roomier cockpit for the pilot compared to the Fine Molds 1/72 tie. Bandai's seems to have been scaled down from a 1/24 size studio model where Fine Molds, more like Round 2 is scaled down from a studio model presumed to be closer to 1/20
I think a more in depth analysis here might explain better
TIE Fighter Size - Rebel Scale
TIE Fighter size: an analysis of the many possible sizes of the TIE Fighter as well as reference images and possible scale calculations
www.rebelscale.com
robn1
Master Member
The cockpit ball should be the same size for all TIE variants. But even if the MPC matches in size/scale, it has several proportional and detail inaccuracies that need to be corrected and were not addressed in R2's repop.
star-art
Sr Member
I think a more in depth analysis here might explain better
TIE Fighter Size - Rebel Scale
TIE Fighter size: an analysis of the many possible sizes of the TIE Fighter as well as reference images and possible scale calculations
That page did a good job analyzing the scale question. As the one who designed the new 1/32 kit, I had to go back and analyze all this again for myself.
Bandai assumed the 1977 filming model was roughly 1/20 scale. FineMolds assumed it was roughly 1/16 scale. These figures must have been based on data from Lucasfilm that those companies received at the time.
I discovered that a 1/24 scale figure fits quite nicely and realistically inside the cockpit of the actual filming model. In fact, the pilot figure ILM created for the original filming model was taken from a 1/24 car kit.
Since Lucasfilm's "official" position today is that the filming model from 1977 is 1/24 scale, that is what was used for the new kit. 1/32 scale would then be 75% of that size. Given the rather large size of the actual filming model, that's pretty huge for a plastic model kit!
Analyzer
Master Member
That page did a good job analyzing the scale question. As the one who designed the new 1/32 kit, I had to go back and analyze all this again for myself.
Bandai assumed the 1977 filming model was roughly 1/20 scale. FineMolds assumed it was roughly 1/16 scale. These figures must have been based on data from Lucasfilm that those companies received at the time.
I discovered that a 1/24 scale figure fits quite nicely and realistically inside the cockpit of the actual filming model. In fact, the pilot figure ILM created for the original filming model was taken from a 1/24 car kit.
Since Lucasfilm's "official" position today is that the filming model from 1977 is 1/24 scale, that is what was used for the new kit. 1/32 scale would then be 75% of that size. Given the rather large size of the actual filming model, that's pretty huge for a plastic model kit!
Good to know
I forgot about the 1/16 scale bit. I think that was originally what ILM said in some article that they had scaled them at, and now that I think about it more, I do seem to remember, scaling down from 1/16 gets you the Fine Molds dimensions. Even smaller than going from 1/20
Fantasy Flight Games and Bandai used the other scaling that was closer to 1/24. Haven't done the match but 1/20 makes sense if not 1/24
The larger tie resulting from either does make sense when trying to match the full size set
Analyzer
Master Member
I guess that is the real question that remains to be seen
If they size it so the frames are the same, then it indeed doesn't really matter how tall/wide the wings are and they should be in scale theoretically
Fett_Ish
Sr Member
I have an SS TIE with koolshade, but to support R2 and have another TIE I can put in my office I will be getting this. I hope they do stuff we haven’t seen that are size prohibitive in SS like the BR in a nice big yet manageable scale. Before I am taking my dirt nap preferably.
Fett_Ish
Sr Member
I don’t think so,and as long as we’ve been waiting for the RC,I can’t imagine it’s anytime soon.
By the time any affordable (retail) version of the Blockade Runner comes out, I'm sure my hands will be unusable and I will be in an old folk's home!
