SKIN JOB 66
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I was sure you'd say that !
Great deduction Jeyl, love your analysis !
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Fred
Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details
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I was sure you'd say that !
Great deduction Jeyl, love your analysis !
:thumbsup
Fred
SKIN JOB 66
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First thing I thought of when I saw that picture was the Nostromo's Engine Room model.
Darn Space Jockies are behind everything!
I couldn't agree more with you !
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Fred
DAVIDYR1
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A few shots from the new TV spot posted over at AICN:
So, this one really grabbed me:
How the hell are they stacked like that? Because unless I'm seeing it wrong, these are the same containers that are spaced out in front of the giant head, just stacked in columns. As expected, stunning image.
Could this be a look at the stacked 'egg pods' in the cargo hold of the Space Jockey's (the Derelict) ship?
David
DARTH SABER
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Ive been trying to stay away from trailers and such, but I decided to check out a couple....DAMN, I dont care if this movie has A L I E N or not, this movie looks awesome!
DARTH SABER
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Thought this was pretty interesting -
Thought this was pretty interesting -
Looks like an Alien in carbonite
CelticRuins
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Some other observations on the space jockey "suit". The head, helmet is sculpted with bone segments just like a human skull, and other bone like textures. This is clearly meant to be something organic, not just a space suit.
The one laying on the ground and the "suits" standing in the hallway have the ribcage "bones" on the chest, yet the one we see being formed into the chair in trailer 2 shows the ribs wrapping around it. If you look, the ribs on the jockey can be seen just under the ones wrapping over them. I think another few seconds of this scene would see a lot more changing and blending occurring. We only see a few fractions of a second in the trailer.
Regardless of this being some kind of space suit or not, it does appear to be biological. That would also explain why they are doing a scan of the head on the Prometheus. Notice that head in the chair has domed black eyes, or covers. The head being scanned looked like it has empty eye sockets.
That's because whatever the 'space jockey' is, it's a morphed human. Looks to be her boyfriend.
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CelticRuins
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Dunno if it's been posted here before, too lazy to look back and check -_-. I'm sure some people know about the "history" of the space jockey...or lack there of in the actual movie script. It was slightly more fleshed out in the comic series/speculated theories:
A space jockey was carrying Xenomorph eggs as weapons secured in a compartment covered by an electrical mist that reacted when broken, but one of the egg"s "hatched" and a facehugger managed to get out and ambush the pilot by surprise. With the facehugger attached to its face the pilot was unable to maneuver the spaceship, and it crashed onto the middle satellite (LV-426 or Acheron) that orbits the ringed gas giant planet Calpamos. The pilot who later gained consciousness sent out a distress signal, but it didn't make it and the chestburster alien killed it.
Essentially the Xenomorph race was created by this space jockey race in order to end a civil unrest among their planet/planetary systems and to possibly take over other worlds. Of course it went horribly wrong.
So technically, this is like Titanic, we all know what happens -_-. The jockey won't make it to earth. It crashes on LV-426 because the Xenomorph species takes over.
Whether Scott wants to admit it has a prequel or not...it technically is, even if we don't see any Xenomorph interaction.
I'm thinking the Xeno on the wall might be the start of the species? Or a look into what the space jockeys are creating/have been creating? Is it a carving? Is it an actual Xeno melded into the wall? Is it being created?
Lots of theories swirlin' about here.
A space jockey was carrying Xenomorph eggs as weapons secured in a compartment covered by an electrical mist that reacted when broken, but one of the egg"s "hatched" and a facehugger managed to get out and ambush the pilot by surprise. With the facehugger attached to its face the pilot was unable to maneuver the spaceship, and it crashed onto the middle satellite (LV-426 or Acheron) that orbits the ringed gas giant planet Calpamos. The pilot who later gained consciousness sent out a distress signal, but it didn't make it and the chestburster alien killed it.
Essentially the Xenomorph race was created by this space jockey race in order to end a civil unrest among their planet/planetary systems and to possibly take over other worlds. Of course it went horribly wrong.
So technically, this is like Titanic, we all know what happens -_-. The jockey won't make it to earth. It crashes on LV-426 because the Xenomorph species takes over.
Whether Scott wants to admit it has a prequel or not...it technically is, even if we don't see any Xenomorph interaction.
I'm thinking the Xeno on the wall might be the start of the species? Or a look into what the space jockeys are creating/have been creating? Is it a carving? Is it an actual Xeno melded into the wall? Is it being created?
Lots of theories swirlin' about here.
Kit Rae
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Except there are two of them in the TV spot walking towards David in the pilot/map room. Possibly 3. So either more than one person is infected and altered, or this is not the infected boyfriend.
CelticRuins
Sr Member
Well the trailers also show the organism that they find in the room, assimilating other members of the crew. Are the other jockeys the other members? I'm getting The Thing vibes here...
Maybe whatever this species is, it has to assimilate another species in order to advance into it's next stage. Exactly like the Xenomorph.
Some have been saying this is not the same Derelict Ship seen in Alien, and judging by the footage seen in the most recent trailers, that looks to be the case. For instance, the derelict ship that's taking off in the trailers is clearly being rammed by the Prometheus ship, which causes the derelict to crash on the planet it was already trying to take off from.
Plus the right "thing" of the ship looks to be relatively intact in Alien where as in Prometheus.....
CelticRuins
Sr Member
Well then it's debatable whether its a pre-story or a continuation, being obvious that no crew member will be left alive it seems. They all get assimilated or sacrifice themselves to keep the species grounded, would be how it seems...
Kit Rae
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Of course we don't see what the alien ship looks like on the ground post crash, but it does look relatively intact in the shots of it crashing to ground. Seems it's a very tough ship. It is definitely not exploding or collapsing where the impacts occur, but crashing then rolling. On the other hand the Prometheus seems to have been totally obliterated by the ramming. Pieces of it are all over the ground and dropping from the sky.
As far as this being the same ship seen later in Alien, we are retreading ground already covered in this thread, but there are lots of external design and shape differences.
The map room with the chair is definitely supposed to be different from the one in Alien, and I don't just mean the design differences in the chair. The whole floor is different, with four pod thingies radiating around the circle (one seems to be open), different walls, et cetera. We don't even know if that room is on board the alien ship. It could be in the dome shaped mountain.
I think it is in the ship, and this ship is one of many similar ones, but not the one from Alien. Of course the ship and map room, or any of this alien technology, may be capable of changing shape to suit the needs or situation, which could explain the differences. To many unknowns to know for sure. All we have seen are a few minutes of a 2 hour movie.
As far as this being the same ship seen later in Alien, we are retreading ground already covered in this thread, but there are lots of external design and shape differences.
The map room with the chair is definitely supposed to be different from the one in Alien, and I don't just mean the design differences in the chair. The whole floor is different, with four pod thingies radiating around the circle (one seems to be open), different walls, et cetera. We don't even know if that room is on board the alien ship. It could be in the dome shaped mountain.
I think it is in the ship, and this ship is one of many similar ones, but not the one from Alien. Of course the ship and map room, or any of this alien technology, may be capable of changing shape to suit the needs or situation, which could explain the differences. To many unknowns to know for sure. All we have seen are a few minutes of a 2 hour movie.
Jeyl, Prometheus appears to explode into little, tiny, burning fragments. The Engineer's ship is merely disabled, falls to the ground and seemingly rolls back to an upright position. I won't be surprised if it shows few-to-no visible signs of damage, as a result of extreme toughness and/or self-healing.
Surface detail differs extensively; it appears metallic rather than organic compared to the Derelict. I hope it is not the same ship. Hell, I hope it's not even the same technology - same gross design, much earlier iteration, or something like that.
Am becoming pretty sure Carson could tell me I'm gonna be disappointed there...
(Actually if the ship itself morphs in an intelligent, purposeful way, that'd be fine. I just don't want the explanation to be "it's covered in Xenomorph (gah) goo". No explanation at all would be better than that.)
Surface detail differs extensively; it appears metallic rather than organic compared to the Derelict. I hope it is not the same ship. Hell, I hope it's not even the same technology - same gross design, much earlier iteration, or something like that.
Am becoming pretty sure Carson could tell me I'm gonna be disappointed there...
(Actually if the ship itself morphs in an intelligent, purposeful way, that'd be fine. I just don't want the explanation to be "it's covered in Xenomorph (gah) goo". No explanation at all would be better than that.)
Noeland
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There is more than one human ship. There are at least 2 ships shown in the trailers, and for all we know there is a larger vessel in orbit around the planet.
Also, unless I'm mistaken the map room is the location of the space jockey chair, when it rises up from the floor. It's very different than the room we see in Alien, so my guess is this is not the same ship, but who knows. Besides the pods/bed around the base of the chair, there is another chair with a lit up work station.
And this is just a hunch, but, I think they are working with these aliens in some fashion, and for some reason, David and Weyland Industries.
Also, unless I'm mistaken the map room is the location of the space jockey chair, when it rises up from the floor. It's very different than the room we see in Alien, so my guess is this is not the same ship, but who knows. Besides the pods/bed around the base of the chair, there is another chair with a lit up work station.
And this is just a hunch, but, I think they are working with these aliens in some fashion, and for some reason, David and Weyland Industries.
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