Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details

[CelticRuins]

If the ship isn't fully damaged, it could take off again/be repaired. This seems to be the start of the species that creates the Xenos, as opposed to anything else. There's no telling that this ship could eventually become the Derelict ship.

As the android stated: "Big things have small beginnings."

I don't think it will be dripping with Xeno goo, just mere glimpses into what this other morphing species will create that will destroy them and then, in turn, try to destroy everything else.

 

[Jeyl]

Jeyl, Prometheus appears to explode into little, tiny, burning fragments. The Engineer's ship is merely disabled, falls to the ground and seemingly rolls back to an upright position. I won't be surprised if it shows few-to-no visible signs of damage, as a result of extreme toughness and/or self-healing.

Oh, that much I do know. The screenshot I posted wasn't the Prometheus crashing into the Derelict, but the derelict's right extension thingy hitting the ground hard after it was disabled. If it hit that side first, I doubt the final resting position would look anything like the derelict seen in Alien.

Sorry for referring to the prometheus alien ship as a derelict, but gosh it looks so much like the original!

 

[Nwerke]

Yup - I know, but, we don't see it exactly snap off or anything. And we see shots of the ship apparently at rest with both prongs vertical. If these scenes take place after the fall, then it must roll - which we do seem to see it doing in the trailer - to a position from which it could indeed subsequently topple into exactly the position seen in Alien.

Don't worry, I do that too! I'm sure everyone does, or will, unless it receives a better name in the film itself.

 

[Carson Dyle]

… this ship is one of many similar ones, but not the one from Alien

Right.

...pretty sure Carson could tell me I'm gonna be disappointed there.

I have no idea if the art directional dots will connect to the complete satisfaction of everyone here (I somehow doubt it), but the story does allow for a fair amount of wiggle-room in terms of similarities and differences between individual “derelict” designs, "Space Jockey" suits, etc.

Reiterating something I said 40 or so pages ago, Prometheus raises far more questions re: events in ALIEN than it answers. The film is designed to be a prequel not just to ALIEN, but to at least one other pre-ALIEN film.

 

[Kit Rae]

There is more than one human ship. There are at least 2 ships shown in the trailers, and for all we know there is a larger vessel in orbit around the planet.

There is the Prometheus itself, shown in space, on the ground, chasing the alien ship, and crashing into it. Then there is the UFO looking ship over the waterfall, and the escape pod that ejects from Prometheus prior to the crash. I assume that is the same ship in the TV trailer that flies across screen left to right, with the Prometheus heading toward the alien ship in the background.

Any others?

 

[DavidS]

does the ENTIRE Prometheus land or does it have a landing vehicle like in ALIEN?

 

[Kit Rae]

What is on the ground is the exact ship we see is space. The thing is huge, so I can't imagine why they would need another ship. Alien showed us an example of something this size as being the interstellar vehicle and the landing vehicle. Ridley is just following form. The mining/drilling platform in Alien was not a vehicle, it was being towed by the Nostromo.

Plus the website timeline indicates one ship, shots of the Prometheus landing with the voice "Prometheus has landed", and the fact that the film is called Prometheus...no reason to assume another ship brought them there.

There is the UFO shaped ship, but that may not even be the same planet.

 

[Noeland]

spoiler tags removed.

It's supposedly called "Magellan". Theories range from it being a quarantine ship, or medical ship, to it being Peter Weyland's personal space limo.

Some folks seem to think this is an EEV, and not Magellan.

I think the UFO looking disc is unrelated to what happens with Prometheus and the space jockey ship.

 

[Kit Rae]

This whole thread has become somewhat of a spoiler so there is not much point in spoiler tags

It you compare it to the shape of the one ejecting from the Prometheus, it looks like a similar shape. One of the air scoop/rudder features can be seen in the ejection too scene if you look close. You can almost see where it was attached to the Prometheus side if you look at the various screen grabs.

 

[Carson Dyle]

“Magellan” was the original name of the main Weyland transport from previous drafts of the script. It was subsequently renamed Prometheus (the logic being that the ship was named after the project). The “second human ship” is a survival pod.

There is the UFO shaped ship, but that may not even be the same planet.

It’s not.

 

[Noeland]

There is also this image from one of the early teasers:

Is there any visible yellow and red on the hull of Prometheus? is this just part of the section that drops down from her bottom?

 

[nightrider]

The film is designed to be a prequel not just to ALIEN, but to at least one other pre-ALIEN film.

I must have missed that. Went back looking but couldn't find it. Would that be Blade Runner?

 

[Noeland]

Carson, was the ship called Magellan during shooting? Because I've seen Weyland mission patches with the name Megellan on them, and have read that set pieces were labeled as being for the Magellan. Thanks for the info, btw. Forgive me for missing this earlier if you posted it, but you worked on the film in some capacity? Read versions of the script?

 

[Carson Dyle]

I must have missed that. Went back looking but couldn't find it. Would that be Blade Runner?

No, I was referring to the ALIEN franchise film(s) that would take place after the events of Prometheus but prior to the events of the original ALIEN.

Prometheus is designed to be the first chapter in a larger prequel story.

 

[nightrider]

I must be dense today but thanks. :lol

 

[Carson Dyle]

Carson, was the ship called Magellan during shooting? Because I've seen Weyland mission patches with the name Megellan on them, and have read that set pieces were labeled as being for the Magellan.

The change was obviously made fairly late in the game; I couldn't tell you when exactly.

you worked on the film in some capacity? Read versions of the script?

I've read the shooting script, but am in no way involved with the production.

 

[Noeland]

Gotcha. Thanks again.

 

[Kit Rae]

There is also this image from one of the early teasers:

Is there any visible yellow and red on the hull of Prometheus? is this just part of the section that drops down from her bottom?

That set is this, but looking from the other direction. Look at some of the screen grabs of this scene and you can see the yellow, but it does not look exactly the same as the other side of the gear. I think the structure on the right of the set pic/left of the film pic, is the garage/hangar bay that drops down from the Prometheus' belley, where the ground vehicles are stored.

 

[ghostryder]

Ridley Scott Talks Prometheus

 

[ghostryder]

Prometheus Empire Magazine - AvPGalaxy