Jack T Chance
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Thanks for clarifying that, because I was getting slightly confused by your last couple posts.
Ridley Scott Prometheus: NOT the Alien Prequel Details
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Me too. It's not looking like a 100% mesh by any means. That said it doesn't exactly blow chunks, either.
Grounds for cautious optimism then. Thanks.
As long as it doesn't end like Mass Effect 3, lol.
I'd kinda like to think the waterfall scene is on Earth, and is a flashback to a much earlier period. Am I warm?
Kit Rae
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The place in Iceland they shot does have the similar rocky terrain around the waterfall (no plant life) as we see in the scenes with the Engineer's dome and the derelict type ship, so who knows. Charlize Theron, Michael Fassbender, and Noomi Rapace were all there for the shoot, so it could be the same planet, but Ridley was interviewed at the time and he described what he was shooting as "the beginning of time".
So we see an infected human (oid) in the trailer and a giant UFO over a primordial waterfall on an early Earth? Why then would those three actors be there? Lots of interesting scenarios come to mind.
From the official PR - "...in which a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a thrilling journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race."
So we see an infected human (oid) in the trailer and a giant UFO over a primordial waterfall on an early Earth? Why then would those three actors be there? Lots of interesting scenarios come to mind.
From the official PR - "...in which a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a thrilling journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race."
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Carson Dyle
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You assume he's human...
From the official PR - "...in which a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a thrilling journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race."
I hope to Hell it's not a Star Trek time travel movie again......
carbonitekid
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Well we have seen in the trailer "they" have holographic technollogy. A projection showing them "we were here, we made you" shown to them aboard the derelict?
Carson Dyle
Sr Member
^This.
Does anyone know where in Iceland/what waterfall that is? I'm heading there in a few weeks. I'd love to check it out and take some pictures.
Kit Rae
Sr Member
Look up humanoid, or did you miss the (oid) after the word human?
They shot at the foot of the Helka volcano and Dettifoss waterfall.
According to what the news stories said last year, Scott said they would be filming there for two weeks for what he says will be the "first 15 minutes of the film", and “We are shooting the beginning of time” quote. That could mean they shot this beginning of time flashback, and then some later scenes with the film characters in the same locale, or additional scenes on the engineer planet since the terrain looks similar. Or none of the above
carbonitekid
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Thanks for the clarification. :cool
Jathoris
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Beginning of time- I'm going to say it simply has to do with the cave discovery and the drawing that probably depicts an 'origins story' and is just called that for shooting purposes like a chapter to a book. Also, If you go through the hassle to get crew and cast to locations like that, you're going to shoot whatever you can to make the most out of it and use it in as many ways as you can. Not that uncommon really and more options are good.
Kit Rae
Sr Member
This is exactly what Ridley said: "It’s, you know, whenever you’re talking about science-fiction, it always sounds pretentious or corny...but it’s actually “The beginning of time”. But I think we’ve got it right. (He laughs) So, it will be a pretty good beginning of time.
I think it's worth repeating all the stuff Ridley has said about the prequel up to this point.
Scott said that "the film will be really tough, really nasty. It's the dark side of the moon. We are talking about gods and engineers. Engineers of space. And were the aliens designed as a form of biological warfare? Or biology that would go in and clean up a planet?"
Scott said "I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?"
The film will explore the nature, origin, and "staggering civilization"of the alien race of the space jockey, as well as the beings' fictional anthropogenic role in the origins of humanity on Earth. Scott told the Hollywood Reporter, "NASA and the Vatican agree that it is almost mathematically impossible that we can be where we are today without there being a little help along the way... That’s what we’re looking at...at some of Erich von Däniken’s ideas of how did we humans come about."
"The cast find an establishment which is not what they expected it to be, it’s a civilization but what we find in it is very uncivilized behaviour."
The prequel went through several drafts, featured a female lead character and would also focus on terraforming and the fictitious Weyland Industries before its merger with the Yutani Corporation.
Scott said that the script dealt with the need for "dematerializing and rematerializing" in order to achieve what one report described as "Near Faster-Than-Light travel", and he was also quoted as saying "I think the closer it is to the truth, the closer it is to the technological feasibility then it becomes that much more interesting (I assume this is what we are seeing when one of the crew appears to be dematerializing in one the the trailer cuts)
Scott stated that the original Zeta II Reticuli planetary system WOULD be part of the prequel story.
Scott said at WonderCon that some of the questions presented in the film are left unanswered and could be answered in a sequel. "If we're lucky, there'll be a second part. It does leave you with some nice open questions."
When asked if we would see the original xenomorph in Prometheus, Scott said "No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry."
When asked if a sequel would move closer to being a prequel to the events of Alien, Damon Lindelof said "if we’re fortunate enough to do a sequel to Prometheus, it will tangentialize even further away from the original Alien."
I think it's worth repeating all the stuff Ridley has said about the prequel up to this point.
Scott said that "the film will be really tough, really nasty. It's the dark side of the moon. We are talking about gods and engineers. Engineers of space. And were the aliens designed as a form of biological warfare? Or biology that would go in and clean up a planet?"
Scott said "I always figured it’s a weapon, and I always figured that [the ship in the first Alien] was a carrier of weapons. Therefore, who is that, inside that suit? That wasn’t a skeleton, that was a suit. And if you open up the suit, what do you get inside it? And why were they going, where were they going?"
The film will explore the nature, origin, and "staggering civilization"of the alien race of the space jockey, as well as the beings' fictional anthropogenic role in the origins of humanity on Earth. Scott told the Hollywood Reporter, "NASA and the Vatican agree that it is almost mathematically impossible that we can be where we are today without there being a little help along the way... That’s what we’re looking at...at some of Erich von Däniken’s ideas of how did we humans come about."
"The cast find an establishment which is not what they expected it to be, it’s a civilization but what we find in it is very uncivilized behaviour."
The prequel went through several drafts, featured a female lead character and would also focus on terraforming and the fictitious Weyland Industries before its merger with the Yutani Corporation.
Scott said that the script dealt with the need for "dematerializing and rematerializing" in order to achieve what one report described as "Near Faster-Than-Light travel", and he was also quoted as saying "I think the closer it is to the truth, the closer it is to the technological feasibility then it becomes that much more interesting (I assume this is what we are seeing when one of the crew appears to be dematerializing in one the the trailer cuts)
Scott stated that the original Zeta II Reticuli planetary system WOULD be part of the prequel story.
Scott said at WonderCon that some of the questions presented in the film are left unanswered and could be answered in a sequel. "If we're lucky, there'll be a second part. It does leave you with some nice open questions."
When asked if we would see the original xenomorph in Prometheus, Scott said "No. Absolutely not. They squeezed it dry."
When asked if a sequel would move closer to being a prequel to the events of Alien, Damon Lindelof said "if we’re fortunate enough to do a sequel to Prometheus, it will tangentialize even further away from the original Alien."
"NASA and the Vatican agree that it is almost mathematically impossible that we can be where we are today without there being a little help along the way."
When did NASA say that?
When did NASA say that?
JediG60racer
Sr Member
It's the media. If you want media coverage, you make up a ridiculous quote and attribute it to NASA, Ghandi, Obama, or Winston Churchill. Not like anyone fact checks in the media these days. They have internet trolls to do that for them after the fact.
Duh.
Duh.
I don't know, if NASA were a person I bet they'd say something like that.
Kit Rae
Sr Member
NASA scientists have said similar things numerous times over the years, and the mathematical odds for life elsewhere have just increased dramatically in the past few years with the discovery that planets orbiting stars are nothing rare at all, but the norm.
Planets Are Common - Everywhere - NASA Watch
The Vatican also has made similar statements. Do a little googling and you will find Ridley is not making things up. This stuff was his inspiration for the storyline, although he is simplifying conclusions I have read.
NASA and other experts probably consulted on the tech gear used in the film as well. Ridley has made the statement recently that everything in the film is scientifically feasable and could work. The Prometheus program is also a real NASA project, for anyone who does not follow these things....not just something made up for the Project Prometheus fake website.
NASA
Planets Are Common - Everywhere - NASA Watch
The Vatican also has made similar statements. Do a little googling and you will find Ridley is not making things up. This stuff was his inspiration for the storyline, although he is simplifying conclusions I have read.
NASA and other experts probably consulted on the tech gear used in the film as well. Ridley has made the statement recently that everything in the film is scientifically feasable and could work. The Prometheus program is also a real NASA project, for anyone who does not follow these things....not just something made up for the Project Prometheus fake website.
NASA
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