SKIN JOB 66
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Do you know if it is connected to the kind of octopus that's removed from Rapace's body in the latest trailer ?
Fred
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Do you know if it is connected to the kind of octopus that's removed from Rapace's body in the latest trailer ?
Fred
SKIN JOB 66
Sr Member
You know Fred, someone suggested to me today that they might be using CGI to hide some things, or keep some things secret in the trailers.
Noeland, now that you mention this it makes suddenly sense... Why would they let us spot all the surprises we'll discover in the theatre ?
:facepalm :lol
SKIN JOB 66
Sr Member
OK, now... If there's really a weathered face on top of that structure, could it be that they'd want it to evoke this ???
SKIN JOB 66
Sr Member
Not talking about a connection to the ancient egyptian civilization here, rather the fact that a Sphinx is generally seen as the keeper of a secret... in this case the keeper of a long forgotten secret... (and keep in mind that the original Weylan Yutani wings symbol seen in the first A L I E N was designed after an egyptian hieroglyph)
Fred
Kit Rae
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In the US trailer #2 there is a side view of the mountain. You can almost see the eye sockets of the face (or skull) carved or built atop the mountain structure. The only part that vaguely resembles the Giger Dune painting is the long ridge that (possibly) ends in a face. Past this, I see no other features that match, other that they are both roundish, which is a stretch.
Looking at the wall around it, the road leading too it, and the vertical rocks at the road sides, these appear to be remnants from some long lost civilization, built of stone. The level of erosion and wear suggests thousands of years have passed. Odd that the road remains so defined.
Looking at the wall around it, the road leading too it, and the vertical rocks at the road sides, these appear to be remnants from some long lost civilization, built of stone. The level of erosion and wear suggests thousands of years have passed. Odd that the road remains so defined.
Not talking about a connection to the ancient egyptian civilization here, rather the fact that a Sphinx is generally seen as the keeper of a secret... in this case the keeper of a long forgotten secret... (and keep in mind that the original Weylan Yutani wings symbol seen in the first A L I E N was designed after an egyptian hieroglyph)
Fred
"There are those that believe that life here began out there.."
Cue original Battlestar Galactica theme music...
SKIN JOB 66
Sr Member
In the US trailer #2 there is a side view of the mountain. You can almost see the eye sockets of the face (or skull) carved or built atop the mountain structure. The only part that vaguely resembles the Giger Dune painting is the long ridge that (possibly) ends in a face. Past this, I see no other features that match, other that they are both roundish, which is a stretch.
Another view of the Harkonnen castle by Giger (from Jodorowsky's doomed project)... A close-up on the head after the castle has been attacked... Rather close to the image you've posted...
Fred
Carson Dyle
Sr Member
Same alien DNA, different type of beastie.
crabra comander
Master Member
I'd like to remove a tentacle from Rapace's body...:lol
I take it you have inside information? Or are these confident guesses? :lol
Carson Dyle
Sr Member
Let's just say it came to me in a vision.
:cool
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SKIN JOB 66
Sr Member
Yup. I've been listening from day 1.
Kit Rae, that road crosses the roof of the Derelict hangar. You can see the circular outline of the iris doors.
Which means all the rocks on top of it are, what? Just stones that have tumbled down from the valley walls, presumably. They're not deliberate camouflage; if they were then the outline would not be seen.
Odd place to put an underground hangar, the bottom of a wadi. There's what looks like moss on the ground and clear signs of heavy erosion by water on the structures. Hope they have good waterproofing.
Kit Rae, that road crosses the roof of the Derelict hangar. You can see the circular outline of the iris doors.
Which means all the rocks on top of it are, what? Just stones that have tumbled down from the valley walls, presumably. They're not deliberate camouflage; if they were then the outline would not be seen.
Odd place to put an underground hangar, the bottom of a wadi. There's what looks like moss on the ground and clear signs of heavy erosion by water on the structures. Hope they have good waterproofing.
Kit Rae
Sr Member
Yes, the hanger doors are obvious from the trailer and the seams on the ground. What is odd is that the stones on top are mostly pointing upward, spire shaped, as if they were placed there, or were once spire or obelisk shaped stones before time and weather have eroded them down. They are clearly not just rocks that tumbled down because too many of them point upward and taper, and none are on the road itself. It is especially odd considering these are on top of the hanger doors, indicating the doors have been closed for a long time, or have never been opened. But the fact that the seams can be seen at all indicates they have been opened sometime in the recent past.
There are a few perfectly shaped obelisks scattered about the surface too, not just the rocky ones.
Since all of the stone seems so eroded, especially the rock surface of the mountain dome, the road edges seem almost too defined, so they must be more recent as well.
The dome structure itself appears to have been cut from the same rock that makes up the surrounding mountains, based on the erosion. No seams from assembled block or anything indicating it was constructed. Well on the outside anyway. Inside it resembles an early, more mechanically constructed version of the organic looking interior of the later type of the derelict ship we see in Alien.
I think the chambers in the mountain, the egg containers, the pilot/map room, the ship, everything is simply an early version of the more organic looking stuff we see in Alien. I don't think any of this stuff is going to magically morph into what we see in Alien. I think this is just the original seed for what gets dispersed later. This is just the blueprint template programming for what will "grow" or develop once whatever race comes in contact gets infected and takes it elsewhere. Each of these things we see are all component parts of the whole, sort of like the various stages forms of the Alien in the first two films.
That's one theory anyway. I don't believe for a second that Ridley and Damon just decided to arbitrarily change the looks of everything for the hell of it. I think there is logical reason for the way this stuff looks and works vs what we see in Alien that will be understood once we see Prometheus.
There are a few perfectly shaped obelisks scattered about the surface too, not just the rocky ones.
Since all of the stone seems so eroded, especially the rock surface of the mountain dome, the road edges seem almost too defined, so they must be more recent as well.
The dome structure itself appears to have been cut from the same rock that makes up the surrounding mountains, based on the erosion. No seams from assembled block or anything indicating it was constructed. Well on the outside anyway. Inside it resembles an early, more mechanically constructed version of the organic looking interior of the later type of the derelict ship we see in Alien.
I think the chambers in the mountain, the egg containers, the pilot/map room, the ship, everything is simply an early version of the more organic looking stuff we see in Alien. I don't think any of this stuff is going to magically morph into what we see in Alien. I think this is just the original seed for what gets dispersed later. This is just the blueprint template programming for what will "grow" or develop once whatever race comes in contact gets infected and takes it elsewhere. Each of these things we see are all component parts of the whole, sort of like the various stages forms of the Alien in the first two films.
That's one theory anyway. I don't believe for a second that Ridley and Damon just decided to arbitrarily change the looks of everything for the hell of it. I think there is logical reason for the way this stuff looks and works vs what we see in Alien that will be understood once we see Prometheus.
I would love to be that optimistic. Hell, I'd settle for any clear sign that it's been thought about! Even if it left things open to the audience to interpret, at least some sign that the filmmakers have got this covered in their backstory would be good.
Relevant:
"Jon Spaihts :
@RobGirvan We tried not to violate canon wherever possible; but the canon's not completely coherent and in the end story wins."
Relevant:
"Jon Spaihts :
@RobGirvan We tried not to violate canon wherever possible; but the canon's not completely coherent and in the end story wins."
Kit Rae
Sr Member
I'm sure that relates to his Alien prequel script, not Damon's, and he may be referring to all the films. I doubt Ridley considers anything past Aliens as canon though, based what he has said. Apparently we are getting a different back story on the origin of the androids/replicants than the one loosely explained in Alien III.
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