Oberon1981
Well-Known Member
Wolverinepred, I can see where you are coming from but I don't think you quite get what people are saying (no offence intended).
Yes 90% of the items on this site are peoples reproductions of things made for the screen, but they were made by the people selling them. They spent the time (days, weeks, months depending on what it is) to recreate them, for a perfect example check out Usurpers newest P1, that sculpture may well be made from a design owned by fox, but it takes pure hard work and talent to make something as stunning as that mask is. Lee is not selling that mask, but if he decided to it would be snapped up by many of us here as it is one of the most accurate masks around. Yes technically it is a copyrighted creature by fox, but this is his take on it. I suspect Fox doesn't mind this site as it is free publicity for their movies and is not taking money away from them. I am sure they would feel different if they had screen quality suits made under licence, and no rubies do not count, but as they don't, they are not missing out on any business here, if anything it is probably making more for them.
The difference with recasters is that they are taking the mask (or whatever else) somebody here has painstakingly sculpted, moulded and cast and ripping it off. Making substandard copies (they all are, by the method of reproduction, they can be nothing less), passing them off as their own hard work and making money off it. Not for the love of the films, or respect to the original artists, purely money. Again a good example is Usurpers P1, he made that for him and as much as we all would like one, he is not selling it because he didn't do it for money. (yes I still hate you for that Lee )
I am sure if you spent a long time making something you were proud of and then saw somebody else passing it off as their own and making money from it, you would understand. The whole issue against the recasters is not one of "hey that was my idea!" more "Hey I worked my ass off for that you pikey!"
I hope you see what I mean, coz I am not having a go, but just trying to help you understand why this is a contentious issue and you may cause some serious ripples by defending recasters...
My two quid... (we don;t have cents in the UK and I rambled on too much for it to be 2p)
Yes 90% of the items on this site are peoples reproductions of things made for the screen, but they were made by the people selling them. They spent the time (days, weeks, months depending on what it is) to recreate them, for a perfect example check out Usurpers newest P1, that sculpture may well be made from a design owned by fox, but it takes pure hard work and talent to make something as stunning as that mask is. Lee is not selling that mask, but if he decided to it would be snapped up by many of us here as it is one of the most accurate masks around. Yes technically it is a copyrighted creature by fox, but this is his take on it. I suspect Fox doesn't mind this site as it is free publicity for their movies and is not taking money away from them. I am sure they would feel different if they had screen quality suits made under licence, and no rubies do not count, but as they don't, they are not missing out on any business here, if anything it is probably making more for them.
The difference with recasters is that they are taking the mask (or whatever else) somebody here has painstakingly sculpted, moulded and cast and ripping it off. Making substandard copies (they all are, by the method of reproduction, they can be nothing less), passing them off as their own hard work and making money off it. Not for the love of the films, or respect to the original artists, purely money. Again a good example is Usurpers P1, he made that for him and as much as we all would like one, he is not selling it because he didn't do it for money. (yes I still hate you for that Lee )
I am sure if you spent a long time making something you were proud of and then saw somebody else passing it off as their own and making money from it, you would understand. The whole issue against the recasters is not one of "hey that was my idea!" more "Hey I worked my ass off for that you pikey!"
I hope you see what I mean, coz I am not having a go, but just trying to help you understand why this is a contentious issue and you may cause some serious ripples by defending recasters...
My two quid... (we don;t have cents in the UK and I rambled on too much for it to be 2p)