Question - Obi-Wan's "Clone Wars" armor

[squirk]

Not his "THE Clone Wars" armor, but the "Clone Wars" version.

I've seen the Sideshow and Gentle Giant sculpts, and have been wondering - cape and tunic aside, are there any differences between his armor and standard CT armor?

I"m guessing "no", since the whole conceit was that you didn't know it was Obi-Wan leading the swoops against Durge until his helmet flew off.

But I figured I'd ask since I'm sure the issue has already been hashed out.

Thanks,

 

[Danakin]

The only difference, besides the capes of course, is the brown undersuit.

 

[defyitall]

Dan beat me to it.

He wears a dark brown undersuit. With a mock turtleneck. Tough to find since the Underarmor brown suit is Cleveland Brown that is more of a mocha/medium to light brown color. Good for CW Volume II but not Volume I. I think I found a ice skating suit company that sold brown one piece suit with a mock turtle neck. PM me and I can see if I have the link at home.

But the armor is the same. Just the addition of the two white discs that hold the cape down to the chest armor.

 

[squirk]

I'm glad you guys told me of the undersuit. I went back and watched Vol. I, and it was pretty hard to tell it was brown until Obi-Wan flipped off the swoop.

But looking at the GG and SS statues, the undersuit looks black. Did they get it wrong? Or maybe the color on my monitor is wonky?

 

[defyitall]

Depends on what you mean by "wrong."

There's one statue that's Obi-Wan with Episode III style hair and saber in the clone suit with the brown cape and tunic. I can't remember which company that is, I forget. But anyway, I think they made the undersuit black like all the clones. Since that's not really representing exactly the look of the show, I don't know if I could call that wrong.

It depends what you want to try and replicate with the costume. The show? Or a real world idealized view of what he probably would have been wearing based on the clones gear?

If you want to go for an exact reproduction of the show style then he has a brown undersuit.

 

[squirk]

Depends on what you mean by "wrong."

There's one statue that's Obi-Wan with Episode III style hair and saber in the clone suit with the brown cape and tunic. I can't remember which company that is, I forget. But anyway, I think they made the undersuit black like all the clones. Since that's not really representing exactly the look of the show, I don't know if I could call that wrong.

It depends what you want to try and replicate with the costume. The show? Or a real world idealized view of what he probably would have been wearing based on the clones gear?

If you want to go for an exact reproduction of the show style then he has a brown undersuit.

I see your point. The debate over "on-screen" vs. "idealized view" has been hashed out ad nauseum, and I can't say that either side is completely wrong or right.

My understanding was that those statues were supposed to be real-life interpretations of the cartoon Obi-Wan. I guess my view is that:

a.) in this regard, CW is as close to canon as we're gonna get - more so than SS or GG, anyway;
b.) a brown undersuit isn't something that needs to be changed to make a "real-world" visualization of the cartoon; and
c.) it's hard to believe that Genndy & Co. made the undersuit brown by accident.

As such, I take the brown undersuit as being "correct".

I grant you, it makes no sense that Jedi would need or want to use specially-made brown undersuits that had no functional difference than the mass-produced amply-available black ones used by the clones.

Of course, the same logic would apply to the cape and tunic. Visually, they look all cool and Jedi-ish, but give no functional benefit. I guess it might help the CTs easily spot their leader in battle, but at the same time, makes it easy for your enemy to spot the leader as well.

 

[defyitall]

When people ask me why things like that happen I just say,

"A wizard did it."

 

[Treadwell]

Not his "THE Clone Wars" armor, but the "Clone Wars" version.

:confused

 

[defyitall]

Clone Wars was a bunch of 2D traditionally animated shorts that ran on Cartoon Network in 2004-5 that showed stories from the clone wars taking place between Episode II and III (think like The Animatrix). It's usually referred to as The Microseries. The first season was all 2 minute shorts and had no real story; just vignettes of the war. The second season was 5 minute shorts and had an overall story arch that showed the events of the Episode III opening crawl. The project was directed by Gendy Tartakvsky (Dexter's Lab, Samurai Jack) with character designs by Paul Ruddish.

The Clone Wars is the new 3D CG animated show that is airing on Cartoon Network starting this Friday. The movie that was in theaters in August was actualyl the first 3 episodes of the TV series cut together into a movie. The Tv series picks up and move on from there.

Obi-Wan's look varied throughout these 2 series.

In Clone Wars Microseries Volume 1, his inital character design looked like his Episode II jedi tunics and mullet. Later in the series, he donned a full Clone armor set with a dark brown undersuit and dark brown cape and tunic. The cape held to his chest armor with two white discs.

In Clone Wars Microseries Volume 2 he had some sort of Jedi battle armor set on which was some pieces of Clone armor on his legs, arms and chest with a tan tunic held in palce by a clone belt and brown hooded cape.

In The Clone Wars the character designers tried to bridge the gap between the look of the Microseries and Episode III while addng some cool elements. He wears soem clone armor on his arms and legs with a tan sleeveless tunic. He has the same Vader inspired chest armor as anakin but in white with a mock turtleneck and his under suit is black like the troopers. He wears his Episode III style belt with two leather pouches on each hip.

 

[Treadwell]

I know all about the series, but Sarge's nomenclature threw me. So he's asking about the armor in the first series?

 

[squirk]

I know all about the series, but Sarge's nomenclature threw me. So he's asking about the armor in the first series?

You mean me?

Yes, I'm asking about the microseries ("Clone Wars"), not the CGI movie/half-hour series ("The Clone Wars").

Confusing, I know.

 

[defyitall]

Ahh, yeah. The "THE" denotes the new series.

 

[Treadwell]

Geez, then I went and confused the username of the thread originator!

I'm going to go take a stress pill and think this over. :lol