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I don't remember anyone saying they didn't want a sonic with sound, mereley that they accepted that the MFX would be an exact replica of the studio prop, not an idealised replica. Of course, this was completeley blown out of the water when the MFX failed to be studio accurate in any way except that it didn't have sound :lol
 
Primrodo said:
He went from a blog post saying how wrong it was saying he'd let me be, and then I find out about his hidden messages on his website (which I encourage everyone to go see, just select all on his homepage and other product pages to see) and how he keeps bringing me up on other posts and twitter comments now. I won't leave it out, and its unfair to simply say he said he did not do it so he didn't, when there has only been an amass of character proof that he would. Who else would do such a thing?

In his blog post saying how wrong he thought it was he even went so far as to blame ME for doing such a thing. Only actions, not words proof character, and for some reason since 2008 he's done nothing but attack me, and did not have to deal with my wife who was was in tears when her account passwords were changed.
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I don't see any hidden messages. As for who, I dunno, someone with more free time that is more over zealous? My only point is, you have no proof other than him calling you out and calling you names and rubbing your face in him being right about his product when you said he was full of it and he was lying. In the end you attacked him first and he was right about his product all along. Him being sore enough to attack you back doesn't mean he hacked your wife's Facebook or Myspace account or whatever. Your wife crying isn't proof either. You get a Chinese IP address for the hack at least? No? Then I'm done discussing a banned member.

On the OTHER hand the Celestial Toystore still has never failed to answer questions and my 9th Doctor sonic hasn't scratched or chipped or broken despite carrying it it my pocket for a month solid. Love him or hate him or are luke warm about him...his sonic is excellent so far! If QMx can deliver this level of quality than I'll be impressed but...again MFX promised everything QMx are promising including the price and well...we all know how that turned out. As much as I would love a license holder to do the job right I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. I sure hope I'm wrong though.
 
I don't see any hidden messages.
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Right click and hold the mouse button and highlight (drag the mouse over) the front page of the CelestialToystore site. :rolleyes

Hint: It is in the center of the page and bigger text than anything else :lol
 
Precisely!

As for the hidden messages.

You people are getting upset over that? Seriously? Did you ever go to school/college/university?

Have you ever walked outside?

I'm not saying it's right and I'm not saying it's mature, but it's also equally as immature to be making such a big deal of it.

Geesh.

Also, there are many hackers all over the internet, any evidence you have against CT is purely circumstantial in the fact that it happened while you were arguing with him. CT isn't the kind of person who would do something like that and shift the blame, he takes the blame/credit for everything he does from what I've seen on him following his blog/Twitter.
 
I THOUGHT this was supposed to be a thread about cool, new product releases.

Not about people acting like goof-balls and bagging on each other about stuff that doesn't really mean anything. (like silly secret messages).

Was I wrong?
 
I don't think it's silly when a couple of people are pushing a banned members products, which they have done more than once.
 
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Vanguard1138 said:
Precisely!

As for the hidden messages.

You people are getting upset over that? Seriously?
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Well, to be honest, if it were my name there, I wouldn't be very inclined to buy his products, either. In "the real world" if you went into a coffee shop and the owner insulted you, would you be likely to go back? In that regard, I think Primrodo has a point. I wasn't here when CT was a member, so I can't speak to the above claims that Primrodo instigated it all, but I understand his reasons for not wanting to give CT his business.

AJK001 said:
I don't think it's silly when a couple of people are pushing a banned members products, which they have done more than once.
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I'm pretty sure that policy is in place more to protect the forum from people pushing the wares of members who were banned for recasting, ripping people off or taking money without delivering. CT was banned for being an *******. For every mention of his product, there are two mentions about his attitude. No one is being led into a scam or anything else that will cause them harm. CT is not a recaster or a scam artist. He just has a colorful way of putting things. And they're not very nice colors, often.

I think we're allowed to use our judgement in matters such as this. If I'm wrong, I'm sure a moderator will correct me and I will refrain from mentioning CT's products.
 
First of all Celestial Toystore made MANY claims before producing a product, and before showing proof he bagged on people. I admit that I was wrong about the Pantone stuff, but hey, who was I to know they moved into plastics and fabrics...I have seen SO many try and use Pantone ink swatches to use for fabric matching and it just does not work that way.

He came through saying how he was top dog without a shred of evidence...do you know how many people come on here and do that. "Lets have a group run, here is a thread I will show stuff later!" "I had access to an original" "Best details ever seen, trust me!" Seen it before, so excuse my skepticism.

And then what did I do? I wanted evidence, that he never had. He started by saying his sonic would be released and be THE replica to own in 2007! But it was sold out. When he finally showed pictures that EVERYONE questioned, not just me, regarding closing, the blue stripe etc, saying its there, I had access to the real prop. And then what did he attack me for? Preferring Aluminum over stainless steel? Or that I liked the MFX sonic? OOOh I am so attacking him. He showed NO proof of product before dismissing the MFX. I was never wrong about that. He has an idealised sonic screwdriver, with differing details, some are better (like the threaded collar). He has proved his product, and thats fine and dandy, its nice...and as I said, I likely would have got one had he not made erroneous claims about me or attacked me on Myspace, Youtube, through PMs with other members, his blog, his own business website, and my wifes accounts.

So let me get this straight. I need an IP address to prove Celestial Toystores involvement? If I had an IP address from China, what would that prove anyway? More dismissals, that is what. Mine says I am in Kingston! And childish? You got that right, but not for me bringing it up. The fact its about me, Risu and Steven Ricks on the website just shows how much of a cretin he really is.

My crying wife may not be proof for you, but the lewd message and the password change into the exact phrase hidden on his website is enough proof for me...and you want me to what? take his word? Fat chance. Proof is in actions and he said, and I quote from his blog entry about me "make your online life a living hell" Do you want a list of actions that would make me believe that? Or do you subscribe to the theory that I have enemies (which I do not) or that I did it myself (which I would not). I am not petty, I am just a fan who loves props. There is a severe lack of evidence saying he could/would not do such a thing. My proof is a screencap I made immediately of what he wrote on my wifes Facebook status, which I would post but would be against the TOS for what is written. Circumstantial or not, he has not proven or taken steps to rectify that situation anyway, just saying "wasn't me". Oh right, good enough for me...riiiight.

I am GLAD you like your purchase from him, glad you feel so good about it and pushing it around like its the greatest thing since sliced bread, but he has been nothing but a crude, rude, self obsessed, cruel, vindictive jerk, that anyone who says anything against him is immediately bashed, rolled at, told they are wrong or featured on his blog. His narrow minded customer service will be the thing that hurts him the most, blogging about how stupid cosplayers are, or how everyone that disagrees is all these wonderful expletives or writing hidden messages on his website.

Its disgraceful, its disgusting, and unprofessional.

The only unfortunate part is that he could have curbed all this and actually been a gem with discussing details, sharing thoughts, and adding to THIS community and Doctor Who prop and costume reproduction as a whole.

THIS is why QMx would be great to see lift off, getting a sweet sonic with sound would be awesome, and I know for a fact that as a business they will not be so quick to dismiss fans, costumers, forum members or blog about them.
 
jedibugs said:
I'm pretty sure that policy is in place more to protect the forum from people pushing the wares of members who were banned for recasting, ripping people off or taking money without delivering. CT was banned for being an *******. For every mention of his product, there are two mentions about his attitude. No one is being led into a scam or anything else that will cause them harm. CT is not a recaster or a scam artist. He just has a colorful way of putting things. And they're not very nice colors, often.

I think we're allowed to use our judgement in matters such as this. If I'm wrong, I'm sure a moderator will correct me and I will refrain from mentioning CT's products.
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No I think you are right, and no CT is not a scammer, always delivers his product, and from what I hear great care is provided in his shipment.
 
To be fair Primrodo, I think it was more the fact that you dismissed his claims outright without actually keeping an open mind until the final product was shown that probably is the issue. A mindset that you accorded Neill Gorton and MFX when they were in a similar position. I agree with Jedibugs and Vanguard: If CT was resposnsible for the alleged hacking, he would have taken credit for it. It just doesn't seem like his style to deny it especially if he could capitalise on it. Now, can we keep this on topic?
 
MFX proved right away with their prototypes, showing every detail people wanted to see. Open, closed, blue stripe, slider aluminum etc. Saw pictures of the screen used sonic presented on here as well. Thats where MFX was accorded my position. CT at that point was still nothing to show.

Sorry do not buy that he would admit it if he did it. Action before words.
 
Primrodo said:
MFX proved right away with their prototypes, showing every detail people wanted to see. Open, closed, blue stripe, slider aluminum etc. Saw pictures of the screen used sonic presented on here as well. Thats where MFX was accorded my position. CT at that point was still nothing to show.

Sorry do not buy that he would admit it if he did it. Action before words.
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Yes, but how did the MFX turn out in the end? They produced a pup. CT didn't. Let's hope QMx learn from that.
 
I think this whole CT business should be laid to rest. Last year I was more outspoken than any of you lot rolled up in one about what I thought about CT and his products and intentions. I was pretty forthcoming in my defence of the MFX accuracy issue too. I was the one who invited CT on here for a debate, which he accepted and debated intelligently and very well he won some respect back, right up until he got wound up by some people and started on one of his colourful rants and got banned.

Now he had written far worse things about me than any of you on his blog, but that didn't bother me too much as I'm ex forces and have heard far worse from friends and colleagues. What CT did do though (and he is very good at it when he puts his mind to it), is publish very convincing evidence on the inaccuracies of the MFX and followed it up with his product which spoke for itself. I fessed up and apologised to him for my knee jerk reactions and admitted I was wrong. The result was a mutual understanding and he kindly withdrew all of his blog posts on me. I never asked him, he did it anyway. Although he missed a couple and when I asked him to get rid of those too, he did. He aslo apologized for being a little harsh on me and explained that was a problem of his.

Draw a line in the sand, he is not going anywhere. People who are passionate about props do get wound up and some have medical conditions that make them sound off to what others consider an unacceptable degree. You can tell from his succinct use of grammar and language that he is obviously a very intelligent bloke and that he has exceptional skills in certain areas, including sounding off.

I'm a major backer of Neill Gortons work and his DW products were second to none. In the light of all of the evidence, I have to admit that the sonic was not one of their better pieces and control over accuracy was lost in all of the time spent negotiating to get it to the market. I tried to justify these inaccuracies as I have invested alot of money in that sonic, but time and weight of facts has proven me wrong. Utterly wrong.

Would we have noticed all of these points if CT wasn't around? Probably not and any niggling doubt over certain details would have been forgotten. The only thing that CT didn't start was the paint issue. Someone else brought that up, and they were spot on. Not only is heritage gold inaccurate, but the screen used sonic never even used Plastikote. I always thought the cracks on the screen used one looked different in every shot I've seen and now I know why. That paint on them actually has crack and not the tears or rips that Plastikote creates.

CT has pushed for accuracy, and it seems companies are stepping up to the plate now and trying to deliver. This can only be better for us fans. For every detail CT analyzes and nails, people will take note and the end results will be a greater understanding of the screen used props and every replica produced will be the better for it.

I'll eagerly await news on the QMx version, but have heard rumours and doubts as to the price point on this. We are only in the prototype stage, and from what we have seen happen in the between proto and production, there is a huge step and a world of difference in expected accuracy and price, to actual accuracy and price.

In the meantime make your peace with CT and lets get on with striving for the details we want in a commercial prop replica, we are all on the same side regarding that issue, however heated it may get sometimes. You lot are all arguing about things that were said in the past when only about 60% of the evidence was in front of us. If they had been said out loud in conversations, they would have been forgotten by now. Unfortunately out views at that time are preserved for posterity and I cringe when I go back and see how rude I was and the allegations I made, as well as the blind faith I had in a product that didn't quite deliver what only about 1% of buyers wanted (us here), 100% accuracy guaranteed.

If CT is reading this, I would encourage him to do he same. Wipe the slate clean. I take it all in my stride now and if CT calls me a blind**** for missing a detail, and if he's right, I'll laugh and say fair enough, you potty mouthed ****.

One thing is certain though, CT can't be in it for the money, as demand on these sonics is not great, and the price he is charging for a CNC'd piece is very very low. So there is something else driving him to make replicas like this. He must have some form of OCD.
 
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I think the mods should move all the posts about the old CT vs MFX argument to another thread since they don't have any genuine relevance to the intended subject matter of this thread which is about ALL the new releases QMX is planning.

Just sayin'.
 
greatwazoo42 said:
I think the mods should move all the posts about the old CT vs MFX argument to another thread since they don't have any genuine relevance to the intended subject matter of this thread which is about ALL the new releases QMX is planning.

Just sayin'.
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I agree. We should have a dedicated QMx or Tenth Doctor Sonic thread as this subject will take over this thread if not.
 
This subject seems to take over every thread that has something to do with a sonic. I'm surprised the argument hasn't spilled over into RussRep's classic sonic replicas threads. It's like a head cold that keeps making the rounds at this point as well as being a totally moot point. People have their opinions, some set in stone, and no amount of simian style chest beating is going to change it. There's a MFX camp, a CT camp and soon there will be a QMX camp.

Can't well just give this one up and move on already? This argument alone has been making me less interested in logging onto the RPF and I'm one of the biggest sonic screwdriver fanatics going.
 
If we didn't have threads like this, then we wouldn't be getting the options we have opening up. So far we have two companies/people striving to put out the most accurate and competetively priced Tennant sonic with various FX and a River Song, Eleventh Doc and Masters laser on the drawing board. We as fans of the series are in the best position we have been in for years. I like the facts that have been presented, it has made me more knowledgable on the subject, made accepted theories thrown out, and made a 100% accurate sonic a thing that is only just around the corner off CT and behind that another option and future products possible from both.

There may be a MFX, CT and soon a QMx camp, but there is also a fourth... a striving for most accurate sonic camp, of which we all all members.

At the moment CT is ahead of the game and pushing the boundaries of paint resilience and accuracy with sound. If QMx want to compete and get a slice of the market, they too will have to push the envelope of accuracy and resilience, which surely will result in a better product than if CT had not been around. Who wants vibration on their sonic when we can have sound? Not many I'd wager.
 
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