PropShop announces TFA Props!

Truthfully, if it's the company setting the prices and they've already got their contracts with Disney for the films, I seriously doubt the fans complaining about their prices is the LEAST of their concerns. Made to order, they don't need to sell anything to stay in business

Yeah, it's like I said earlier, these aren't really being made for the people who spend their time on this forum buying from people who made things themselves. There's a market for all of these and they'll sell every one. We can just be thankful that there's better reference for Kylo's saber, the melted Vader, etc.
 
Thank you for posting this, your post did not come off as a crying child. The Kylo helmet is amazing and your team did an amazing job!

If you want I will shoot you my email address and you can send me the Kylo files :). (That was a joke)

Thanks again for posting, hopefully you can post some more!

Hey RPF,


I've felt compelled to make account here and put a few things straight about these replicas. I've lurked on the forum for many, many, many years. I love what you guys do and how much detail, research and love you put into what you make and I know how much real replica props and screen accurate minutiae means to you guys.


The main thing that's made me register has been Adam's tested review of his Kylo Ren helmet and the misinformation he has about propshop and what they made for the film. I made a couple of comments on the youtube video and I've looked for a private email for him but I couldn't find one, I know he posts/reads/knows people here so I figured this was the best way to get the message out to him and to you too.


I'm the guy that sculpted Kylo Ren's helmet, I did it in conjunction with the chief concept artist and the costume designer and despite common misconception we had absolutely nothing to do with propshop. I was part of an entire costume FX team that worked for Pierre Bohanna in house for the production full of talented staff and expertise and it saddens me to hear a fellow prop modeller (accidentally, I'm sure) credit entirely the wrong team for all the hard work and talent due to misinformation.


Propshop did indeed make a lot of the weapons and other stuff for Force Awakens and they had many talented makers on their roster that I'm personal friends with and by no means would I ever discredit their work, they did an amazing job. Propshop's claims that they made “Rey's saber” etc are all true, and at no point have they claimed credit for our work, but it's just that they just haven't denied it either. They had nothing to do with the Stormtrooper armour (aside from the mounting on the side of the leg for the weapon!) or Kylo Ren's costume at all, that was all us (if you're interested, check IMDB and we're all there under costume modeller).

The 3D printed helmet replicas they are selling ARE based on 3D scan data from our hero stuff, but they're not the original files or 3D print stls. I can't speak for the vader print or the sabers, they probably ARE based on original stl files, but I know for a fact that the helmets we printed were done by a different company to propshop so they never had our stl files. I don't believe their $2000 helmet will be any more accurate than the ANOVOS one, they're both basing their replicas on exactly the same scan data.


I'd also like to mention that Adam Savage claimed that the hero stuff was all 3D printed. It wasn't. A lot of propshop's weapons were, but ALL our helmets were cast from molds made from 3D prints. I myself made Kylo Ren's helmet mold. We needed the durability because until 3D printed material gets better they're far to brittle to have them last a full shoot on a principal actor.


Sorry for the long post, and also sorry to sound a crying child throwing toys out of the pram, usually I keep quiet in this sort of thing and out of public eye, but I have a lot of respect for Adam and I've watched him since the early days of Mythbusters and what he's done for the maker community is fantastic, I'm sure this wasn't vindictive or intentionally misleading.


I have total respect for you guys and it's great to know that people notice all the extra effort we put into our work and that it's (usually!) appreciated by a small minority and to think of you spending $2000 on something that you believe is a 100% replica of an original screen used prop I find distressing and I wouldn't want you to be misled by wrong information.
 
I have total respect for you guys and it's great to know that people notice all the extra effort we put into our work and that it's (usually!) appreciated by a small minority and to think of you spending $2000 on something that you believe is a 100% replica of an original screen used prop I find distressing and I wouldn't want you to be misled by wrong information.

Thanks for all the info, seriously, and welcome to the boards :)
 
I really appreciate this info.

It's a different world today than it was 18 years ago, but I've had a hard time getting over spending multiple thousands for the life size Don Post Stormtrooper that advertised as screen accurate and realized quickly it wasn't even close.
 
That's insane! It's one thing to make items quickly which just need to survive a week or two of the shoot schedule, but for a high-end collectible? Nuts.

I stand by my licensing/costs commentary!

Sorta depends...

There has always been "idealized vs accurate" camps when it comes to props. The accurate camp should be stoked about this since the process is pretty much exactly like the actual props.

EFX vs Master Replia's Maul saber is close comparison to the different camps... EFX made with resin like the original props, Master Replicas metal, more idealized real life version.

Some of these items are even made by exactly the same people that made the original... Quite honestly the costs don't seem too outrageous if this is true (and not a bunch of dedicated artists hired to only produce these). The cache of this is worth $$$.
 
I'm in the accuracy camp and in that regard, the lightsabers are incredible, since they fabricated new graflexes for the movie.

That being said, Weta made some props for consumers and I think they cost much less than this.


Sorta depends...

There has always been "idealized vs accurate" camps when it comes to props. The accurate camp should be stoked about this since the process is pretty much exactly like the actual props.

EFX vs Master Replia's Maul saber is close comparison to the different camps... EFX made with resin like the original props, Master Replicas metal, more idealized real life version.

Some of these items are even made by exactly the same people that made the original... Quite honestly the costs don't seem too outrageous if this is true (and not a bunch of dedicated artists hired to only produce these). The cache of this is worth $$$.
 
They have the sabres and blasters sown up.. .they made them all. 100%. They did a good job. Everything looked great on screen.

Fabricated new graflexes? Bollocks. They just bought every one they could find, made new bands and developed the stunt blades.

If they do Falcons, Kylo's ship, speeders and X-Wings from ILM's digital files, they will be amazing. Their models that were displayed at the various displays were lovely and my friends finished them. I'd love to see a 32" version of the 5 footer with TFA detailing.!!!!

Anything costume related, however, is a ****ing farce. Sure, they are the custodians of the second hand scan data, but that is it. No credit to the people who actually designed and made them.??? ... that is bad form. Weird as the behind the scenes and credits spell it out very simply.
 
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Exactly, this is the damage controll I was referring to in my earlier post.


Anything costume related, however, is a ****ing farce. Sure, they are the custodians of the second hand scan data, but that is it. No credit to the people who actually designed and made them.??? ... that is bad form. Weird as the behind the scenes and credits spell it out very simply.
 
The 3D printed helmet replicas they are selling ARE based on 3D scan data from our hero stuff, but they're not the original files or 3D print stls. I can't speak for the vader print or the sabers, they probably ARE based on original stl files, but I know for a fact that the helmets we printed were done by a different company to propshop so they never had our stl files. I don't believe their $2000 helmet will be any more accurate than the ANOVOS one, they're both basing their replicas on exactly the same scan data.

[the sound of members rushing to cancel orders for propshop's 3D-printed UV-susceptible helmet and contacting Anovos to order a lid that is just as accurate, more durable, but lower in price...]
 
Lots of nice informations here,thanks...after all , I think the propshop -pricelist should be updated...very fast!:lol
 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rCaNa2L-heE&feature=youtu.be&rdm=21u5n225t&client=mv-google

Ill-informed, poorly researched bull**** from a 'valued' member. Embarrassing.

I think he simply went by the info stated/published by propshop. If their info is misleading, then that's on propshop. I'm sure Adam doesn't employ a team, or allot hours of his time before each video, fact-checking claims made by what should be reputable sources in regards to the prop he's discussing, on the off-chance that something misleading has been put out there.

Just my 2¢...
 
Awesome info coming to light. They seem happy to mislead people despite the asking price. If the prices do come down to Disney charging an arm and a leg for their liscence how does this fare for the future of Star Wars props. Is this just the beginning?


Ben
 
The box might last much longer than the prop itself. The grandchildren will ask what is with that dust inside the nice crate...



Then you need to step out of the licensed world for a bit and get into the world of fan made props too Especially since you have an account here at RPF ;)

I agree with you JKNO. I have been in the prop replica forums in the rebelscum for over a decade now and always been a lurker in therpf. Yea, the stuff made by the members here are friggin amazing. In fact couple months back, I did purchase a custom made Red Guard helmet by Korbanth. Loved it to bit. Screw those over priced Propshop stuff. As a long time prop replica collector (mainly MR and EFX stuff) actually felt insulted with the prices on these Propshop offerings
 
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