PropShop announces TFA Props!

The definitive word on whether the melted vader seen on screen was resin vs. 3D-printed. The final product was indeed a painted-up 3D print from 2 phases of sculpting.

The full story from http://www.starwars.com/news/galact...rce-awakens-groundbreaking-replica-collection

“...[artist Luke Fisher] was sculpting it in clay,” Enright says, “and it was laying on its back, and that’s why it’s got a flat back. Luke worked and worked and worked on it to the point where J.J. [Abrams] was happy with it and signed off, and then it was scanned. We had to do multiple, multiple scans of it.” The multiple scans were required because, being so asymmetrical, it was essential to capture every possible angle as data. But it also opened up possibilities.

“At the time, it was a solid lump of clay,” Enright says. “It wasn’t hollow, obviously. Once we got the scan, we then put it into the computer, gave it thickness, worked back into it, and hollowed it out. That’s where you get the interior. Then we 3D printed it, and gave it back to the sculptor, and then the sculptor worked again on it. Then we re-scanned it again [Laughs], and then produced a final output.” That output was then hand-painted, finally ready for Kylo Ren’s private quarters on set.

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The melted Vader helmet replica, which seems like it would be particularly hard to reproduce, is also 100 percent accurate. “The file we’ve got now, the file we’re creating prop replicas from, is the file that the original was printed from,” Enright explains. “So there’s absolutely no difference to that. There’s one file. There’s no molding, there’s no loss of authenticity there. It’s the real thing.” Making it real means remaking the actual artifact — not what we saw on-film, which was lit to create a certain mood and effect. “We’ve gone for accuracy of what it’s really like,” Enright says, “because I think that’s what’s quite cool about it. We haven’t darkened it and painted it. It’s not a screen version of it. It’s a real version of it."

Still not worth the price to me personally, but it may matter to someone else...
 
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I felt sorry for the man after watching that video. Loading that kind of cash for such a turd.:facepalm
Stressful watching that guy. Did I hear right cert 45 of 500 but medallion 43? I'd be super annoyed by that if I'd spent that much.
Personally I never really got the point of the helmet in the movie, better that he was incinerated end of.
 
I felt sorry for the man after watching that video. Loading that kind of cash for such a turd.:facepalm

I'm pretty sure Chris Pirillo received the Melted Vader specifically to do the video. He is somewhat of a celebrity. It's similar to Adam Savage getting the Ren helmet.

The painting of the helmet is underwhelming. But they said they made the replicas how the props actually looked, not how they appear on screen with lighting and other film tricks to make things more dramatic.
 
There is a HUGE difference in painting a piece to look like it is on film while sitting on your shelf, and painting a piece to use ON FILM.

For a collectible that will be on your shelf? High contrast.. Highlights, shadows, etc.. It all has to pop, and that's the style most of us are familiar with as collectors. That style doesn't transfer well into film. In reality, painting for a piece on film needs to be much more suble and toned down. The lighting and color correction play huge factors in the final look of the movie prop, and if you have all these false highlights and shadows they will contradict what the lighting has to say.


You could say a lot about Propshop and the accuracy of their other pieces, but the Vader? It's just about as dead on accurate as you can get. It is the only thing I would consider from their offering a true movie prop quality piece, and the "underwhelming" paint job goes hand in hand with that accuracy.
 
Stressful watching that guy. Did I hear right cert 45 of 500 but medallion 43? I'd be super annoyed by that if I'd spent that much.
Personally I never really got the point of the helmet in the movie, better that he was incinerated end of.

I'm quite sure Vader had a few other backup helmets in the SW universe. It might have been much better if Kylo used on of these instead of the fugly burnt one we got in TFA.
 
I think he got it for free, to make that particular youtube review.

Stressful watching that guy. Did I hear right cert 45 of 500 but medallion 43? I'd be super annoyed by that if I'd spent that much.
Personally I never really got the point of the helmet in the movie, better that he was incinerated end of.

I'm pretty sure Chris Pirillo received the Melted Vader specifically to do the video. He is somewhat of a celebrity. It's similar to Adam Savage getting the Ren helmet.

The painting of the helmet is underwhelming. But they said they made the replicas how the props actually looked, not how they appear on screen with lighting and other film tricks to make things more dramatic.

Never heard of the guy before, thanks for the info.
 
Have to throw in with everyone else that the prices are crazy, crazy, crazy. Maybe inflation?? - whatever. And no shipping to Canada, so even if I was gonna go nuts with the hard earned $$$$ it won't happen. I do love the melted Vader Helmet, but again - that price is beyond any 'cool' fanboy ceiling I'm prepared to hit! And I've hit some pretty hard!
I must say though, I do really like the look of the Rey 'Skywalker' Lightsaber they've shown in their promo shots. The scruffy look, the weathering, the hex screws. Beautiful!! I'm in the process of making one from an extra Master Replicas Empire saber, some of Roy's parts & some original parts. So yeah, that Promo Saber is my inspiration. Sure it's not screen accurate, but for some reason with TFA I don't feel so twee about the screen accuracy thing. Just having some OCD free fun. It's been a nice diversion.
 

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I'm quite sure Vader had a few other backup helmets in the SW universe. It might have been much better if Kylo used on of these instead of the fugly burnt one we got in TFA.

I'd like to think luke and company aren't that dumb as to leave something like that just laying around afterwards. I mean, for one, he was vader, but he was also their father, who'd want someone selling off parts of your father to collectors? Second, who'd want someone who worship's him using as a relic and/or a call to evil? You leave no trace, and if there's a trace you incinerate it totally or lock it up or put where it'll never be found. Apparently they just left most of vader just lying in a pile of ashes on Endor. Poor taste and not too bright.
 
I'd like to think luke and company aren't that dumb as to leave something like that just laying around afterwards. I mean, for one, he was vader, but he was also their father, who'd want someone selling off parts of your father to collectors? Second, who'd want someone who worship's him using as a relic and/or a call to evil? You leave no trace, and if there's a trace you incinerate it totally or lock it up or put where it'll never be found. Apparently they just left most of vader just lying in a pile of ashes on Endor. Poor taste and not too bright.

Plot semantics are kind of a moot point when you consider that these films rely on heavy handed imagery - not entirely logical, but hey, the Saga is a space opera. Drama man, drama.
 
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Apparently they just left most of vader just lying in a pile of ashes on Endor. Poor taste and not too bright.

Maybe it's not that helmet, but from one of the many, many...MANY times Vader has been pwned in a videogame, or Rebels. Because nothing says "terrifying Sith Lord" quite like repeatedly getting trashed by the damn B-Team :facepalm
 
Maybe it's not that helmet, but from one of the many, many...MANY times Vader has been pwned in a videogame, or Rebels. Because nothing says "terrifying Sith Lord" quite like repeatedly getting trashed by the damn B-Team :facepalm
I repeat - Plot semantics are kind of a moot point when you consider that these films rely on heavy handed imagery - not entirely logical, but hey, the Saga is a space opera. Drama man, drama. Let it go.
 
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I repeat - Plot semantics are kind of a mute point when you consider that these films rely on heavy handed imagery - not entirely logical, but hey, the Saga is a space opera. Drama man, drama. Let it go.

It's not a problem of imagery. It IS however in fact EXACTLY a problem of drama. LFL wants Vader in everything, because he sells like gangbusters. The problem with what they've done however is that they have him show up, be menacing, and then get his ass handed to him over and over and over again. That's not good drama. It neuters your big bad. It's why I actually wish Vader was not going to show up in Rogue One - he's going to get defeated again, and it all adds up to making Vader come off as ineffectual and weak. Drama, man, drama - if you're relying on big, broad archetypes, then protect your biggest symbols!
 
It's why I actually wish Vader was not going to show up in Rogue One - he's going to get defeated again.

But we know that he's been defeated when he tried to recapture the DS plans since 1977. Now we only going to see it. And it doesn't mean that he really is going to get defeated. Maybe he just didn't make it to catch the escaping rebels in time, or it is someone's other fault.
 
Saw it today with my five year old - pretty cool - very 3D printed, resolution lines on everything!
Our guide said that if ordered (yeah right!) it would come with all metal detailing.
Sorry there aren't better pics - but my boy was in all the others and he no go on internet!

Also it was quite an intense experience actually being in the seat, the boy was overwhelmed too - had to look after him - couldn't go down the prop rabbit hole whilst in there ;)

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It's not a problem of imagery. It IS however in fact EXACTLY a problem of drama. LFL wants Vader in everything, because he sells like gangbusters. The problem with what they've done however is that they have him show up, be menacing, and then get his ass handed to him over and over and over again. That's not good drama. It neuters your big bad. It's why I actually wish Vader was not going to show up in Rogue One - he's going to get defeated again, and it all adds up to making Vader come off as ineffectual and weak. Drama, man, drama - if you're relying on big, broad archetypes, then protect your biggest symbols!
Regardless of how you feel about how "bad", in your mind, Vader should have been, he is ultimately a tragic figure. And what I'm talking about is the drama that his twisted visage drives in this specific film (TFA). I don't see this as a marketing ploy to sell Vader dolls. It's actually pretty good old fashioned DRAMA and strong imagery to go with it - they do often go hand in hand- or so it seems. The drama and imagery of Kylo talking (almost pleading) to his dead grandfather's diminished second face is just so pathetic - in the "pathos" way. It's a very clever visual & DRAMAtic way to allow the audience to observe the emotions that drive an obviously sad, flawed & misguided character towards a twisted version of a past that was much different (and tragic) than he knows or is willing to accept. Of coarse causing him to become pretty horrific. That's the drama and imagery I'm referring too. Not whether Vader was a big bad stunt filled badass, video game, killing machine, force weiding mother****er. If you only see an ineffectual, weak, neutered character that's cool. But it's the way the story developed. Space opera drama - cue music.
 
I repeat - Plot semantics are kind of a mute point when you consider that these films rely on heavy handed imagery - not entirely logical, but hey, the Saga is a space opera. Drama man, drama. Let it go.

Moot point. Not mute. It's a legal term.

Sorry to be the grammar police, but that one is a personal pet peeve. ;)
 
I saw it as vaguely reminiscent of the whole Shakepearean Hamlet "Alas, poor Yorick!" holding the skull idea. Part of me wondered what happened to the head that used to reside inside the helmet, but mostly I just enjoyed how the artists responsible for the sculpt had made an image that was at once haunting, terrifying, and a bit sad.
 
Moot point. Not mute. It's a legal term.

Sorry to be the grammar police, but that one is a personal pet peeve. ;)
No problem & actually, thanks? I'm usually a bit of a grammar police, typo, psycho myself. So, much appreciated in assisting me in looking less (more?) dumb-ass. I guess a month of 14 hour work days with periodic RPF & toilet breaks does wreak havoc on the intellect (or some semblance of one).

Best,
G


Hopefully my response has been a grammar misdemeanor personal pet peeve free read.
 
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Part of me wondered what happened to the head that used to reside inside the helmet.

Anakin's body disappeared when he became one with the Force, just like Obi Wan's and Yoda's did. All that was left behind was his armor.
 
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