Prometheus (Post-release)

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The black goo does one simple thing

by brightgeist

It directs (and accelerates) mutations towards a specific "goal". and, obviously, the goo in the first scene of the film is NOT the same goo that causes all the problems later in the film. the difference between the 2 goos are their "goals".

the engineers seem to have the ability to do genetic programming on a deeper level than simple DNA. yes, they use DNA obviously, but apparently they can set a "goal" to their mutations.

so, when they "create" life on a planet, they use their own DNA as a basis and start the evolution that will, after billions of years, reach its "goal" of human beings.

the weaponized goo, on the other hand, has a very different "goal", and a highly accelerated mutation rate. the "goal" of that goo, as we can see in the painting on the wall of the Big Head Room, is the "xenomorph", although obviously a slightly different model than the one from ALIEN. and whatever DNA that goo touches, it starts aggressive mutations in the direction of that xenomorph form.

of course, when that goo gets in contact with a grown human, it doesn't "transform" him into a xenomorph, because that's not how evolution works. it simply creates mutations in him, as we see in the cases of Fifield and Holloway.

but when the mutated DNA is transferred into a new cell through reproduction (as happened with the worms, apparently, and with Holloway and Shaw having sex, and later with the impregnated engineer), a newly evolved species can grow.

so i think this really explains the goo in a consistent way :)

The Black Goo can be Engineered to be used either as a Positive Life Force or Bio Weapon

by fitz-hume

On Earth the Engineers used the Black Goo to advance life, to kick start the evolution of the species, us included, by mixing it with their own DNA.

The Black Goo found on the Engineers ship was engineered to function as a bio weapon. In this form the Black Goo causes wild destructive mutations that turn what ever life form it mixes with into highly lethal murderous beings. Humans turn into sick mad murderous beings programmed to wipe each other extinct. Mixed with worms and a sperm cell it turned them into freak versions of facehuggers, beings that live to pregnate other living beings with their destructive bad seed. The biggest creature that was born from a mutated human sperm cell was basically a huge variation of a facehugger and functioned in the same manner. It pregnated the only living Engineer and alas a big xenomorph baby came through his chest, one that was quite clearly a Queen Alien baby.

Like Lindelof himself said the question to ask after seeing Prometheus is "What does the black goo do?".
 
Just imagine if when they unmasked the "Engineer" if there was a Predator face underneath. Oh man, heads in the audience would have exploded!

To those that think Prometheus was a bad movie, go watch Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, they were on a search too. ;)



oh go take your meds! :lol:lol
 
re: plot holes

Well I don't know why I got a degree in film when I could have just read wikipedia.


Yeh - I've seen a few places discussing Prometheus where the definition of 'plot hole' is being mistaken for just poor writing, whatever wikipedia says.

I will give it to TK765 though that those are some very valid issues he raises - I particularly found the captains reaction to the life signal the sensors detected just mindboggling - "oh, don't worry, they're probably just glitching. Anyway, goodnight boys, sleep well!" - I mean, isn't it prudent to assume the sensors are actually, you know, doing their job and inform the rest of the team? Absolutely no plausibility whatsoever.
 
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And what's the 2000 year thing? Was it because around 2000 years ago Christianity came about?

Yes, ***** is an Engineer:


Movies.com: You throw religion and spirituality into the equation for Prometheus, though, and it almost acts as a hand grenade. We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that ***** ****** might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?

RS: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, “Lets’ send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it. Guess what? They crucified him.
 
Posted by Blipper

"I will give it to TK765 though that those are some very valid issues he raises - I particularly found the captains reaction to the life signal the sensors detected just mindboggling - "oh, don't worry, they're probably just glitching. Anyway, goodnight boys, sleep well!" - I mean, isn't it prudent to assume the sensors are actually, you know, doing their job and inform the rest of the team? Absolutely no plausibility whatsoever. "



The WTF moment for me was that they were both still clearly linked to the Prometheus, the probes had mapped the interior in detail, both the probes and the people were marked clearly on the holographic map as they moved and they STILL managed to get LOST. It looked to me like they were just in one long tunnel at that point. Then they managed to return to exactly the one and only room that they ran away from.

Willie, thanks for the AICN post. Some well thought out points in there, some still as weak as goo though ,others direct contradictions (worms to snakes in hours ,sperm to giant squid a day. Dissolved engineer to mankind in about three billion years). The goos the thing to trap the conscience of the King! Pity they were not worked into or discussed openly within the script.
 
Oh wait, the Engineers, since they travel, are highly advanced, etc. maybe they came across the Alien species early in its evolution and tinkered with it. That may be why the mural shows what we know as Aliens? They adapted the species to make it take traits from it's soon to be prey, make it a more efficient killer of whatever life form the Engineers send it against?
When you build a house, you work from an already drawn out schematic. They had the basic final form drawn up in the biological blueprints... it was the building blocks that determined changes from the basic design.

Another subtle aspect of the film was the "try harder" line, and what that meant. This one line defines the real reason the mission happened. "Try harder to find a way to save me from dying". Some folks have been wondering why he would bring a crew like that out into space. Well, they were chosen because they were meant to be expendable in the end, need be. He was more than willing to kill everyone on board to save himself.
I took the try harder line to be more that she should be more like David. In terms of gender and in terms of how he was to Weyland - the beloved son he never got. She was nothing to him because of that, which is why he created David. So the line refers to Weyland's disappointment with her, or, since David is such a real ******* in his own right, it could just be a stab at her on his own account to make her even more insecure. Sibling rivalry.

Again though, I think the film is all about David. I'd also bet the longer cut of the film will, like Kingdom of Heaven, be a lot better and fill in a lot of the cracks.
Would love a longer cut.

One other thing that occurred to me is not that they wanted to kill us, they wanted to turn us into weapons. The seeding of the planet with the building blocks of life was simply a first step in the process. But, the process was interrupted and they were never able to return to the planet and finish what they started. This allowed us to evolve and become self aware and civilized, and technological.
Well, they certainly visited us in the past - the wall murals with the star maps all over the world, spread out over millennia.

Seems logical that not all space jockey's liked what others had created. Seems more plausible than the one-hive mind aliens usually have in stories. That adds conflict and drama. Sets up the duality of the religious aspect of the story, good and evil, god and the devil. Those that want to nurture and guide us and those who wants us to fight and kill each other.
 
Saw the midnight showing last night, in IMAX 3D, and thoroughly enjoyed it. With the exception of the very last scene, I was completely content with the movie and it actually exceeded my expectations.

I am somewhat perplexed by the negative reactions I'm seeing all over the internet. What's with all the vitriol? Over and over, I keep reading accusations that anybody who enjoyed the movie must think they "get it" and are therefore smarter than everybody else? Seriously? One thing is for sure, whether you liked it or not, whether it met up with your expectations or not, it sure has sparked a lot of passionate discussion on the subject matter. So, let's discuss...

"Black goo" - It seems everybody wants to assume that all the black goo is the same stuff. People seem to be upset because they can't figure out "the rules" of the black goo. It seems to me that the engineer’s technology is based around genetic manipulation, and the medium often comes in the form of goo that is black. Surely it isn't all the same stuff. The black goo the engineer ingested at the beginning caused him to disintegrate and broke down his DNA, contributing that to the primordial ooze that eventually evolved into us. The black goo from the vial that David tricked Holloway into ingesting had a completely different effect, that may or may not be similar to the goo that turned the worms into the nasty serpents and Fifield into a mutant. My guess is that numerous "vases" might contain all sorts of differently engineered contents in similar black gooey mediums.

Fast growth of creatures – This seems to require no more suspension of disbelief than has ever been necessary for any of the Alien films. All the xenomorphs have grown dramatically in very short periods. Prior to chestburster stage, they could feed off their hosts, but once out of the host they still grow to huge size within hours without feeding. Why would this be nitpicked in Prometheus?

Space Jockey "suit" - Even the characters in the movie initially make the incorrect assumption that what they encountered was a being with an exoskeleton, and this was actually briefly stated as they examine the helmet. The suit is clearly bio-mechanical, and the hard armor-like parts are very bone-like. The helmet has cranial plates that are fused, much like any skull. I like that they bio-engineer their gear. I find this much more fascinating and creepy than if they just naturally looked like elephantine giants with exoskeletons. Looking at the shots with the un-helmeted living engineer, I couldn't tell where his suit ended and his original body began, yet we know from the naked engineer we see in the beginning that they aren't originally that way. It seems they bio-engineer their own bodies as well to some extent, but draw the line somewhere. About half-way up the neck, the bio-mechanoid suit fades away to their natural appearance. Vanity, maybe? Whatever it all is, I don't feel like the mysteries of the space jockey have been tread upon. At the same time, they seem both more human and even more alien than ever before.

Atmosphere issues – I don’t recall the exact details, but my recollection is that the atmosphere had toxic levels of CO2. It wasn’t without oxygen, and not entirely CO2, just too much CO2 to safely go without suits for more than a few minutes (was it 2 minutes?). That would be consistent with 5-10% CO2. Flamethrowers should work fine. The pressure was apparently fine. There was apparently some sort of CO2 scrubbers inside the pyramid, but I don’t think it is a big leap to think that the 10’ tall un-helmeted engineer would have had too much of a problem making it to the lifeboat from his wrecked ship.

Poor/stupid/unscientific character actions - There have been a plenty of these pointed out, and some might actually be just as dumb as they seem, but I don't think any of it is pointless. We see humans being VERY human, during incredible circumstances. They act irrationally. We see them motivated by fear, ego, and hubris. They (like many fans, it seems) make huge assumptions that end up being wrong. Super-trained by-the-book fearless experts who don’t make bad decisions would have made flat unbelievable characters that would not nearly have served the story as well. I love that tough-guy geologist Fifield completely loses his nerve upon sight of a decapitated alien corpse in a creepy pyramid on an alien planet. I love that biologist Millburn loses his objectivity when faced with seeing his first living alien life-form, and goes out Steve Irwin style. Of course Holloway gives up and starts drinking when he finds out the “gods” they came all this way to meet are all dead (and of course he assumes they’re all dead, why else would they leave their buddies corpses laying around for 2000 years…). Shaw shows up mostly naked, covered in blood, stapled together, after assaulting crew members, and old-man Weyland and his robot boy seem disinterested? That’s not a stupid mistake. That shows exactly where Weyland’s ugly human priorities are, and where Shaw and the rest of the crew stand in the big picture (crew expendable).

Suicide crashing Prometheus to stop the ship – What other alternative was there? They have no anti-ship weapons (why would they?). The only hope of survival is the lifeboat, but they must know that isn’t an option under the circumstances. It has life support, but didn’t seem to have any faster-than-light propulsion (if any propulsion at all, since it just ejected and crashed on the surface), and maybe 2 hypersleep chambers (the one that Vickers was in, and the other that Weyland was in). We saw the same scenario on the Nostromo. They knew they were doomed, and faced with the possibility that the engineer was going to destroy life on Earth, they decided to bravely go out like heroes instead of take their chances and go out like punks. Even Shaw was ready to give up (despite the lifeboat) until David offered up a way to get off the planet. Once everything went sideways with the living engineer, they all knew they were all doomed.

I love that they didn’t try to spell out all of this stuff, and I don’t think much of anything was pointless or careless. I don’t see bad writing at all. To quote Ernest Hemingway: “If a writer of prose knows enough of what he is writing about he may omit things that he knows and the reader, if the writer is writing truly enough, will have a feeling of those things as strongly as though the writer had stated them. The dignity of movement of an ice-berg is due to only one-eighth of it being above water.”

My hope is that Scott and Lindelof have a much bigger story going on, and they fed us just enough to get our attention and get us thinking and talking and emotional about it all. I can’t wait to see where this goes, and I’m really happy that it isn’t what any of us seemed to expect or imagine.

I agree that David is the central character. I like to think that David is more like the mythical Prometheus, rather than that engineer at the beginning of the movie. David steals the fire (the black goo) from the gods (the engineers), gives it to man (Holloway), and ends up getting dismembered for it, yet remains alive to continue suffering it for his arrogance as a head in a bag.

The alien at the very end did unsettle me. I didn’t care for the design of it. Seeing some of the concept art for it after the fact, I think they passed over better designs. I don’t dislike the concept, though, just the way it was executed. Even the xeno-looking thing on the wall in the pyramid is only suggestive of the original Alien by the basic shape and smooth elongated head. This thing was much less like the classic xenomorph, and didn’t even have a tail, back spines, or exoskeletal features (though at least one of the concepts at least had some back spines). The coloring and jaws gimmick weakened it. I certainly don’t get making the jump to seeing it as a baby queen. At most, it shows some evolutionary level of the familiar life cycle taking place, and shows the audience that there is still a survivor left on LV-223 for some evolution to possibly continue.

What can we speculate about any links to the original Alien xenomorph we all know and love? The mural in the pyramid did show what looked very much like the classic egg. That, and the other thing on the wall that looks a lot like an adult xenomorph shows that something like it has existed for at least 2000 years. Warning sign? Instructions?

The bio-mechanical nature of the engineers, and their “suits” intrigues me. If they genetically engineer the suits, and their under-suits seem to be part of them, do they biologically interface with the suits on a genetic level as well? Are the exoskeletal bone parts armor? Did the xenos we know have exoskeletal armor by design, or did they inherit that from an engineer wearing/interfaced with his suit? For better or for worse, that possibility gives some credence to the variation we see in the xenos from the other movies as they get another step removed from the Space Jockey in Alien.

Thank you, Sir Ridley Scott, for taking the mysteries I’ve loved wondering about for 30+ years and compounding them into newer ones. I haven’t looked forward to the possibility of sequels this much in a very long time, and I’m eager to go see Prometheus again soon.
 
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What is this stuff about the flamethrowers, by the way? What is the objection there? And why would anyone assume the Engineers drop dead at the same percentage of CO2 that we do? That makes no sense. For all we know these guys spent the last four billion years making themselves as durable as possible. They're mortal, but only just...
 
I saw the film last night and liked it very much. Reading the reviews here, there's not much more I can add. I didn't mind the design of the alien at the end. Although the engineer's and human DNA was a match, there are obviously differences between them and us. So I think an engineer impregnated by a face hugged will produce a different looking alien than a human.

Throughout the movie I was thinking, Don't take off your helmet! Don't stick your finger in that! GET AWAY FROM THAT SNAKE!!! But after reading SpyderDan's Points, I can see how people faced with new and incredible events could put common sence on the back burner. Wouldn't you walk "toward" a UFO if it landed in your backyard?

I'm not sure I see the connection between this ending and the condition in which the Nostromo crew found the space jockey. I think it would have been better to show the impregnated engineer struggling to get back into the bio-suit, and having it close just as the chest burster is breaking out. End the movie there and don't even show us a new alien.

My high expectations have been satisfied. IMAX was incredible, 3D was unnecessary. I will see it again to take in the small details.
 
Well said, SpyderDan. Nice to know I'm not the only one that liked it. Hell, I loved it.

I don't get this whole "Vickers is a robot" thing. Why would anyone even think that? Because of Ridley Scott and Blade Runner? People seem to think that she's even "more advanced than David", although David was specifically designed to emulate human emotions, to make him more human and easier for humans to work with. Vickers is the opposite.. she's less human than David. If they were trying to be all sneaky with android Vickers, wouldn't it have made sense for her to be more human and not less?

The fact that Janek asks the question was probably a wink to the fans about the Blade Runner controversy.

But I think it's far more likely that Vickers is simply a human that doesn't know how to be human. She probably spent very little time with Weyland growing up. Knowing Weyland, he probably had various models of android watching over her, so that was her role model. As others have mentioned, Weyland is far more interested in his "son" David than his own flesh and blood daughter, so it seems like she would want to emulate the things he loves in the hope of receiving some of that love. It's quite clear in the film that Weyland doesn't give a damn about her or what she wants, and more importantly, he shows her none of the affection he shows David. If he loves his artificial creations so much (and he clearly does), why wouldn't he show the same level of affection for Vickers as he does for David? Especially if she were the "more advanced" version?

The irony is probably lost on Weyland in his final moments. All of the effort to find his creators, there with David, his own finest creation. And the Engineer tears David apart, probably out of disdain that this is all humans could do, is create crude simulacrum out of metal and plastic instead of true creation of actual life. Not only are the Engineers not impressed with David, they're probably insulted and disgusted by him (remember, we know nothing about their culture, only their technology).

As for the creature we see at the end (I hate the term "xenomorph"), I don't think that's supposed to be the classic "alien" design at all. I think that's simply another of their creations. My thinking is that the creature we saw back in 1979 is simply an evolution of that, a different "version" of the same type of bio-weapon. I agree with the blurbs that Alienscollection posted, that the goo is a mutagen that is dropped on a planet, that becomes various horrible forms of life, and then is cleaned up later by the Engineers when they return. What we define as the "classic" alien may or may not normally be part of that cycle.

In any event, I think it's obvious that the classic Alien is another Engineer creation. I'm fairly certain that Ridley and crew are ignoring even Cameron's film, and that there is no life cycle beyond what we saw in the original film, because there was never meant to be. The creature is born through death, and its only function is to kill. And after a while, it dies. Very similar to the black goo in that respect. Drop a bunch of goo/eggs on a planet and come back in twenty years.
 
Saw the midnight showing last night, in IMAX 3D, and thoroughly enjoyed it. With the exception of the very last scene, I was completely content with the movie and it actually exceeded my expectations.

I am somewhat perplexed by the negative reactions I'm seeing all over the internet. What's with all the vitriol? Over and over, I keep reading accusations that anybody who enjoyed the movie must think they "get it" and are therefore smarter than everybody else? Seriously? One thing is for sure, whether you liked it or not, whether it met up with your expectations or not, it sure has sparked a lot of passionate discussion on the subject matter. So, let's discuss...

"Black goo" - It seems everybody wants to assume that all the black goo is the same stuff. People seem to be upset because they can't figure out "the rules" of the black goo. It seems to me that the engineer’s technology is based around genetic manipulation, and the medium often comes in the form of goo that is black. Surely it isn't all the same stuff. The black goo the engineer ingested at the beginning caused him to disintegrate and broke down his DNA, contributing that to the primordial ooze that eventually evolved into us. The black goo from the vial that David tricked Holloway into ingesting had a completely different effect, that may or may not be similar to the goo that turned the worms into the nasty serpents and Fifield into a mutant. My guess is that numerous "vases" might contain all sorts of differently engineered contents in similar black gooey mediums.

Fast growth of creatures – This seems to require no more suspension of disbelief than has ever been necessary for any of the Alien films. All the xenomorphs have grown dramatically in very short periods. Prior to chestburster stage, they could feed off their hosts, but once out of the host they still grow to huge size within hours without feeding. Why would this be nitpicked in Prometheus?

Space Jockey "suit" - Even the characters in the movie initially make the incorrect assumption that what they encountered was a being with an exoskeleton, and this was actually briefly stated as they examine the helmet. The suit is clearly bio-mechanical, and the hard armor-like parts are very bone-like. The helmet has cranial plates that are fused, much like any skull. I like that they bio-engineer their gear. I find this much more fascinating and creepy than if they just naturally looked like elephantine giants with exoskeletons. Looking at the shots with the un-helmeted living engineer, I couldn't tell where his suit ended and his original body began, yet we know from the naked engineer we see in the beginning that they aren't originally that way. It seems they bio-engineer their own bodies as well to some extent, but draw the line somewhere. About half-way up the neck, the bio-mechanoid suit fades away to their natural appearance. Vanity, maybe? Whatever it all is, I don't feel like the mysteries of the space jockey have been tread upon. At the same time, they seem both more human and even more alien than ever before.

Atmosphere issues – I don’t recall the exact details, but my recollection is that the atmosphere had toxic levels of CO2. It wasn’t without oxygen, and not entirely CO2, just too much CO2 to safely go without suits for more than a few minutes (was it 2 minutes?). That would be consistent with 5-10% CO2. Flamethrowers should work fine. The pressure was apparently fine. There was apparently some sort of CO2 scrubbers inside the pyramid, but I don’t think it is a big leap to think that the 10’ tall un-helmeted engineer would have had too much of a problem making it to the lifeboat from his wrecked ship.

Poor/stupid/unscientific character actions - There have been a plenty of these pointed out, and some might actually be just as dumb as they seem, but I don't think any of it is pointless. We see humans being VERY human, during incredible circumstances. They act irrationally. We see them motivated by fear, ego, and hubris. They (like many fans, it seems) make huge assumptions that end up being wrong. Super-trained by-the-book fearless experts who don’t make bad decisions would have made flat unbelievable characters that would not nearly have served the story as well. I love that tough-guy geologist Fifield completely loses his nerve upon sight of a decapitated alien corpse in a creepy pyramid on an alien planet. I love that biologist Millburn loses his objectivity when faced with seeing his first living alien life-form, and goes out Steve Irwin style. Of course Holloway gives up and starts drinking when he finds out the “gods” they came all this way to meet are all dead (and of course he assumes they’re all dead, why else would they leave their buddies corpses laying around for 2000 years…). Shaw shows up mostly naked, covered in blood, stapled together, after assaulting crew members, and old-man Weyland and his robot boy seem disinterested? That’s not a stupid mistake. That shows exactly where Weyland’s ugly human priorities are, and where Shaw and the rest of the crew stand in the big picture (crew expendable).

Suicide crashing Prometheus to stop the ship – What other alternative was there? They have no anti-ship weapons (why would they?). The only hope of survival is the lifeboat, but they must know that isn’t an option under the circumstances. It has life support, but didn’t seem to have any faster-than-light propulsion (if any propulsion at all, since it just ejected and crashed on the surface), and maybe 2 hypersleep chambers (the one that Vickers was in, and the other that Weyland was in). We saw the same scenario on the Nostromo. They knew they were doomed, and faced with the possibility that the engineer was going to destroy life on Earth, they decided to bravely go out like heroes instead of take their chances and go out like punks. Even Shaw was ready to give up (despite the lifeboat) until David offered up a way to get off the planet. Once everything went sideways with the living engineer, they all knew they were all doomed.

I love that they didn’t try to spell out all of this stuff, and I don’t think much of anything was pointless or careless. I don’t see bad writing at all. To quote Ernest Hemingway: “If a writer of prose knows enough of what he is writing about he may omit things that he knows and the reader, if the writer is writing truly enough, will have a feeling of those things as strongly as though the writer had stated them. The dignity of movement of an ice-berg is due to only one-eighth of it being above water.”

My hope is that Scott and Lindelof have a much bigger story going on, and they fed us just enough to get our attention and get us thinking and talking and emotional about it all. I can’t wait to see where this goes, and I’m really happy that it isn’t what any of us seemed to expect or imagine.

I agree that David is the central character. I like to think that David is more like the mythical Prometheus, rather than that engineer at the beginning of the movie. David steals the fire (the black goo) from the gods (the engineers), gives it to man (Holloway), and ends up getting dismembered for it, yet remains alive to continue suffering it for his arrogance as a head in a bag.
The alien at the very end did unsettle me. I didn’t care for the design of it. Seeing some of the concept art for it after the fact, I think they passed over better designs. I don’t dislike the concept, though, just the way it was executed. Even the xeno-looking thing on the wall in the pyramid is only suggestive of the original Alien by the basic shape and smooth elongated head. This thing was much less like the classic xenomorph, and didn’t even have a tail, back spines, or exoskeletal features (though at least one of the concepts at least had some back spines). The coloring and jaws gimmick weakened it. I certainly don’t get making the jump to seeing it as a baby queen. At most, it shows some evolutionary level of the familiar life cycle taking place, and shows the audience that there is still a survivor left on LV-223 for some evolution to possibly continue.

What can we speculate about any links to the original Alien xenomorph we all know and love? The mural in the pyramid did show what looked very much like the classic egg. That, and the other thing on the wall that looks a lot like an adult xenomorph shows that something like it has existed for at least 2000 years. Warning sign? Instructions?

The bio-mechanical nature of the engineers, and their “suits” intrigues me. If they genetically engineer the suits, and their under-suits seem to be part of them, do they biologically interface with the suits on a genetic level as well? Are the exoskeletal bone parts armor? Did the xenos we know have exoskeletal armor by design, or did they inherit that from an engineer wearing/interfaced with his suit? For better or for worse, that possibility gives some credence to the variation we see in the xenos from the other movies as they get another step removed from the Space Jockey in Alien.

Thank you, Sir Ridley Scott, for taking the mysteries I’ve loved wondering about for 30+ years and compounding them into newer ones. I haven’t looked forward to the possibility of sequels this much in a very long time, and I’m eager to go see Prometheus again soon.

Saw it last night loved it, and I'm going again today to take it all in. This is the most intelligent review of this film to date.(y)thumbsup
 
In any event, I think it's obvious that the classic Alien is another Engineer creation. I'm fairly certain that Ridley and crew are ignoring even Cameron's film, and that there is no life cycle beyond what we saw in the original film, because there was never meant to be. The creature is born through death, and its only function is to kill. And after a while, it dies. Very similar to the black goo in that respect. Drop a bunch of goo/eggs on a planet and come back in twenty years.
I don't think they were ignoring Cameron's ALIENS. Heck, they included the LV number on the moon. Had concept art of pulse rifles and other things. Also... the fact that a queen appears in ALIENS can be just another evolution of the weapon. One possibly not thought of or intended by the Space Jockeys, where the bio weapon pushed itself into a new direction, to become a species instead of a bio weapon. Life finds a way, kind of deal. An accidental fluke in the evolutionary chain of that weapon.
 
I saw it, wasn't that impressed if i'm honest, glad those who liked it are having fun figuring it out, but yeah, i'll buy it on blu, maybe an extended cut will make more sense.
Thinking about it, i came out felling the same way i did after seeing phantom menace, i really wanted to love it, but just didn't
 
"It proposes a lot of interesting questions, but fails to answer any of them."

That is the best review I could ever hope for. That is what I want out of a movie.

I haven't seen it yet. About to head out to the theatre now.
 
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