preventing recasting

The only way to prevent it is to not sell/give any away. Just keep it for yourself. Many people put "tells" some small indescrete thing that will be able to help identify it as yours, sadly this is usually after someone has recast it already
 
I stopped selling kits. It doesn't really stop it, but people are less likely to mold a pristine finished prop.
 
what types of discrete features do people design into the cad models of parts before they're printed, to use as tells/identifiers? i assume it has to be something only I would know about, or else they could remove the feature and claim it was never there to begin with.
 
I have access to a laser scanning thing that will scan a part and after a bit of timing cleaning up the scan, a 3D CAD model is had. But its such a pain to use the thing and its software I let someone else deal with it lol
 
As Szyntax said, don't sell or give any away.
Do a one off for yourself and don't post any good pictures or give out measurements.

Once something is in the publics hands it can be copied within a day, be it silicon or laser scans.

D6
 
Really there is no way of "preventing" recasting if you are going to be in the business of "selling stuff you made". Some Jacka$$ will inevitably recast it... usually poorly.

The best you can do is develop a network of people (here is a decent place to start) that are trustworthy... again this is a hard thing to do takes time and you will not make a lot of money... and deal within that group of trusted folk. the issue with that is that its very difficult to develop trust or even "know" someone via online methods... its just too impersonal. People can be fooled in person relatively easily, online its just that much easier.

If you sell it on ebay you're cooked... It will go to asia and all bets are off...

If you sell it to another artist you're less likely to get burned but still no guarantees... It really is a cr@p shoot, where you are relying on peoples integrity, and honesty.

Myself I do not buy anything that is recast even if it is a good deal. When I first started this hobby I bought a few items before I realized what recasting was and that they were not the "source" of the product rather that the person selling to me was essentially stealing...

Placing a tell on a piece will only give you the satisfaction of being able to prove that origianally the source was you... which is little satisfaction when you see your work being ripped off.

Then of course there is the whole copyright debate... wher if your making a version of something in a movie that has a copyuright you're ripping them off in the first place... which I consider to be Legal and technically correct, but pretty lame. If you spend a years worth of weekends building something - its yours IMO, even if inspired by a copyrighted work.

Its a shame really as this board was developed on the premise that the people here ahd a passion for and the requisite skills to figure this stuff out and create what are essentially works of art. This place was at one point a clearinghouse of information exchanged very freely, until it got big enough where the leeches found it and started hanging around... now while its still a good place on the net, the "vibe" is different, with good reason... You can still develop a network of trusted folk to work with, and sell to, but it will be a lot harder. I wish you luck.

Jedi Dade
 
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I usually cast in a "tell" (like my initials or logo) on an inside wall or discreet place. I also used to cast in a different color than everyone else. I used a pale green, but people seemed to hate that (Don't know why, it's all gone after primer) so I went for tan. Thank God I haven't found out about a recast of any of my kits yet. But they are priced reasonable enough that a recaster really wouldn't make that much trying to sell cheaper anyway.
 
I know of at least one guy who liked to spray finished helmets with silicone spray without telling his buyers. If they tried to make a mold of it with silicone, the spray would cause problems. I would not recommed doing this however...
 
I believe that at the end of the day whatever you try and do to stop it, if someone wants to recast it they will. It sucks but it's the truth.
I've bought recast stuff before when I started out not knowing anything about recasting. But now I only appreciate non recast or cast from original. It's not always easy getting the chance to buy it but it means more to me and And the hobby and that's what counts.
If I sell a cast from original or original and someone copies/ recasts it and sells it then good luck to those people that are happy with that. If they stick with the hobby and are worth anything to it then I'm sure they'll start to understand.
Some people are always gonna profit from others hard work, that's life.
This is all my opinion of course and everyone is entitled their own.


Oh, and break their legs:lol
 
I don’t have to worry about recasters, I never sell my props or models.

But, if I want to make a run out of a prop or a model, I would give every single cast a unique (hidden) marker. It will not prevent recasting, but it gives me the opportunity to hunt down the recaster. Than I can bust his kneecaps

Seriously, if you want to prevent recasting, only sell/give away your stuff to people you can trust.
Problem is, those people are hard to find these days
 
What I find appalling is Don Coleman posted pics of his Robby he built on his own yet the RPF caved when Fred Barton whined about it. Yet there's pictures of everyone else showing their hard work and talent on the RPF and noones bothering them....so what makes Barton so important? Don didn't recast anything Barton had yet his work was removed from the RPF. Ive seen Don's Robby and its 100 times better than Bartons..maybe that's what hes worried about. Don isn't selling these , he just made one for himself just like everyone else here who makes replicas. No disrepect to the RPF intented just my opinion...I just didn't think it was right.
 
TymerDC said:
What I find appalling is Don Coleman posted pics of his Robby he built on his own yet the RPF caved when Fred Barton whined about it. Yet there's pictures of everyone else showing their hard work and talent on the RPF and noones bothering them....so what makes Barton so important? Don didn't recast anything Barton had yet his work was removed from the RPF. Ive seen Don's Robby and its 100 times better than Bartons..maybe that's what hes worried about. Don isn't selling these , he just made one for himself just like everyone else here who makes replicas. No disrepect to the RPF intented just my opinion...I just didn't think it was right.
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And this has absolutely what to do with this thread?

Barton has the rights to the character, he issued a C&D, and the RPF honored that. End of story.
 
Actually has everything to do with this thread since your talking about recasters and people who pirate others work. Which Don was guiltless of yet his threads were removed because of one person......and Barton doesn't have rights to the character....Warner Bros does....he has a license to SELL the character....Don wasn't selling anything.
Theres plenty of guys making R2D2s, B9 Robots, C3POs, etc and just making them for themselves. Theres nothing illegal about recreating something for yourself from a movie....or at least its a gray area....yet I see nobody jumping on these people for it for which I'm glad of because I enjoy seeing these talented peoples projects which shouldn't be hidden from everyone because someone is afraid of non-existent competition. It took Don off and on about 20 years to make that Robby..I honestly doubt he has an assembly line of them.
I honestly apologize if I ruffled any feathers , it wasn't my intention to cause an arguement or upset anyone...I would like to make nothing but friends here if possible. so with that I said my peace...again I'm very sorry and I'll shut up now. :angel

Too Much Garlic said:
And this has absolutely what to do with this thread? Barton has the rights to the character, he issued a C&D, and the RPF honored that. End of story.
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