PREDATORS - MOVIE INFO
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Half Knife
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It goes way beyond taste, and if you weren't so terminally defensive, you'd realize that. Anyone can call themselves a "fan", but most really aren't fans. They can take something or leave it, and not really be too bothered by what happens to it. You stated that you weren't and never have been a huge Trek fan. That's totally fine. I have been for over 40 years. If you had been, you would realize the truth in what I said about what they've done to the franchise, and you would feel disappointed at the very least. Saying that there's no point in getting fired up about whether they make the Pred film is defeatist at best. That's your right if you're a Pred fan or any other kind of fan. And lastly, someone who goes on calling someone else a child should take his own advice about being grown up. I meant what I said, and if you take exception, you'll just have to deal with it. Star Trek is dead to me after over 40 years, and I don't think they can fix it this time. If you don't have the balls to be passionate about anything, I truly pity you. I just hope that the Pred film surprises everybody in a pleasant way. There's not enough information yet, to see what direction it will go. There aren't many icons left, so I sincerely hope they don't screw up this one.
PredatrHuntr
Master Member
Star Trek is dead to you? LMAO! Thats frikkin hilarious!!! Over a movie that was well done?! See now even tough this thread SHOULD be about "Predators" we are STILL debating the Star Trek remake because some people are expecting Predators to be as bad or good as Star Trek.
I know for a fact that the movie reviews and the money that Star Trek has made thus far has made it successful. That means the majority of the people who saw it actually enjoyed it. Yes there were some die-hard trekkers/trekkies out there who thought that Star Trek was raped and desecrated, but there are two things to look at: was the plot and acting welldone or shoddy, and was the movie actually enjoyable or was it difficult to watch. These are the same questions that we will ask when we watch Predators.
I can understand people getting their panties in a knot when an icon of theirs is changed, altered and designed differently - but a fresh take on something is never a bad thing. I am in an industry where everything I do changes all the time. If I was one of those people who was opposed to change, I would have a hard time enjoying my job. Instead I choose to embrace change simply because it is inevitable. Sure, there are always going to be things we don't like and would prefer back the way they were, but change is good. If you can't bend and adapt to change, you will break in half.
Wow...I guess we all have our own opinions and are entitled to them. I can understand why we disagree, but please respect ALL opinions without insulting others.
I know for a fact that the movie reviews and the money that Star Trek has made thus far has made it successful. That means the majority of the people who saw it actually enjoyed it. Yes there were some die-hard trekkers/trekkies out there who thought that Star Trek was raped and desecrated, but there are two things to look at: was the plot and acting welldone or shoddy, and was the movie actually enjoyable or was it difficult to watch. These are the same questions that we will ask when we watch Predators.
I can understand people getting their panties in a knot when an icon of theirs is changed, altered and designed differently - but a fresh take on something is never a bad thing. I am in an industry where everything I do changes all the time. If I was one of those people who was opposed to change, I would have a hard time enjoying my job. Instead I choose to embrace change simply because it is inevitable. Sure, there are always going to be things we don't like and would prefer back the way they were, but change is good. If you can't bend and adapt to change, you will break in half.
Wow...I guess we all have our own opinions and are entitled to them. I can understand why we disagree, but please respect ALL opinions without insulting others.
Xcalibor
New Member
I completely understand where your coming from. I really do, but what you say or i say is never going to change what hollywood does. If it sounds defeatist to you, whatever dude. I call it reality, and its here to stay. And i'm not terminally defensive, i'm one of the most calm and passive guys on the board, but it does get a little old and pisses me off when people start attacking others for not sharing their same point of view about things. maybe you caught me on a bad day, i dunno. But you came off as being a doucher calling people who liked the movie airheads. And don't call me a non fan of something knowing nothing about me dude. Huge pred fan here and yes it does break me when you look at what their doing to it, but again, i'm not going to pass judgement on anything till i see something a little more concrete.
Stuff changes, things evolve, and **** happens. You can always hold on to the trek you loved and the preds we love, nobody and nothing can ever take that away from you and thats how i feel about predator. No matter how bad they **** something up, i can take comfort in knowing that they can't change the past and **** up the original and we'll always have that. But to stay the same and not evolve and advance means to die. surely you can agree to this.
Agree to disagree but lets not insult people for not sharing opinions and i'll try to be less offensive, lol.
KPH
Stuff changes, things evolve, and **** happens. You can always hold on to the trek you loved and the preds we love, nobody and nothing can ever take that away from you and thats how i feel about predator. No matter how bad they **** something up, i can take comfort in knowing that they can't change the past and **** up the original and we'll always have that. But to stay the same and not evolve and advance means to die. surely you can agree to this.
Agree to disagree but lets not insult people for not sharing opinions and i'll try to be less offensive, lol.
KPH
Half Knife
New Member
Do you know what REALLY pisses me off??? Being devoted to something from childhood, and trying not to be a geek about it, and watching it evolve and add to the legend, and then see the slow, fatal slide over the edge of the abyss into 90210 super ********. That's what they did to Star Trek. It started with The Next Generation, very slowly, and then Deep Space Nine slowed the slide pretty well for a while until it ended. Then Voyager slowly continued the slide (though I liked most of them), and Enterprise tried to change everything all at once and paid the ultimate price. Everything was quiet and then BAM! Suddenly this ******* kisses Nimoy's ass and bonds with him through other work projects, takes everything that was established and ****** it as hard as possible and people loved it. That's what pisses me off most. That movie WAS NOT STAR TREK. It was a hollow copy that was made specifically for the 90210 crowd under the quise of Star Trek. Only the name is the same. Star Trek had class no matter what you thought of the actors because it was made when America still had class to spare.
The new movie is a direct reflection of our society today. Kirk is an arrogant, simple minded pussyhound, that looks like he had a bad botox experience with those ********** lips, Spock is totally the most ****** up in the film, and J.J. Abrams used the same ******** excuses that has become a Paramount staple...alternate reality, artistic license and time travel. The story was so stupid it was laughable. A Romulan supership made from a mining ship. Spock kicks Kirk off the Enterprise, and he just happens to land on the very same planet where the old Spock is hiding in a cave, and only a few hundred yards away? Add to this, Montgomery Scott just happens to be on the same planet? Come on. And all the characters (except Bones) are roughly the same age? They destroyed Vulcan. Only a serious lifelong fan could possibly understand what that meams to another of his own kind. They ****** with everything they could **** with and people loved it. People who aren't serious fans and didn't know all the history loved it that is. The only possible saving grace that film could have is if it makes new fans and then once they're hooked, they change everything back to the way it should be. It's entirely possible, but I doubt that they will even try. The characters remind me of the teen-agers I work with (babysit is more accurate) and that was the target audience. Why did they have to use Star Trek? Because Hollywood wouldn't know a ******* original idea if it raised up and bit the whole town in the ass. So what do they do? **** with things that real writers and actors and directors created before them and pin the name of something solid on it (Star Trek, Predator, anything as long as it's already been established) so they can laugh all the way to the bank.
Point of view and opinion has nothing to do with it. Simple fact is all it is. Originality is dead in Hollywood. If the people making the Pred film are smart, they will be watching these boards to see what the fans would really like to see. What are the odds that they are? These people don't care that, like it or not, film is one of the most, if not THE most important medium we have. All they care about is money. Make it, **** it up, milk it. That's the extent of their thinking in most cases. CGI and wannabe actors. That's the content of most Hollywood films today. I shudder to think what they will do to the Thor movie. Yeah, I'm a lifelong fan of his character too. Had every single comic up until 1995 (divorce). Now, I hope that Marvel Studios will take extra care to make sure that their icons don't get ****** up by the big studios. I'm one of the easiest people in the world to get along with, but NEVER, EVER try to argue Star Trek with me. It represents much more to me than a t.v. show. Memories of watching it with my mother (she thought Shatner was handsome). Sneaking out of bed to watch re-runs late at night after my parents had gone to bed and sitting so close to the t.v. that I should be blind now (I couldn't turn the volume up or I'd get caught). Sending off for autographed pictures of my favorite characters and all that other Trekkie stuff. That's what Star Trek meant to me. That Star Trek is dead. And it's a damned shame they couldn't let it die in peace. Only someone like me could ever understand why I feel the way I do. The word FAN is short for FANATIC after all, and if that's what I am, then so be it.
I don't visit Star Trek sites. This is the only fan site I visit. If that makes me a Predator fanatic, then that's all right too. I'm not ashamed to be a lifelong Trekkie, Star Wars, Conan the Barbarian or Thor fan. I'm not ashamed to be a hard-core Predator fan and nobody else should be either. Science Fiction in general and Star Trek in particular are what prompted me to get a B/A with a minor in photography. Wanting to be like Spock is what made me read everything I could get my hands on from the time I could read, (especially fantasy and Sci-fi), a habit that has lasted up to the present day. If all this makes me seem like a certifiable lunatic Trekkie nutcase because of my love for something for so long, then I'm ok with that too. That's what Star Trek meant to me. Sorry this vent is so long, but I could easily make it ten times longer. As a matter-of-fact, I thought that killing Qui-Gon Jin and the choice of Hayden Christiansen as Anakin Skywalker were the worst possible choices Lucas could've ever made in the prequels if anyone wants to open that can of worms!
Wolfie1381
New Member
"If the people making the Pred film are smart, they will be watching these boards to see what the fans would really like to see. "
if the people making the film watch these boards, they'll mostly be reading posts calling them scum and ar$eholes and calling their film utter sht before it's even been penned, so i don't think that would be any incentive to do anything to please "us".
if the people making the film watch these boards, they'll mostly be reading posts calling them scum and ar$eholes and calling their film utter sht before it's even been penned, so i don't think that would be any incentive to do anything to please "us".
celtic yautja
New Member
id like to agree with your comment as quoted.
if i recall correctly,AVP-r was made for the fans.[with the fans comments in mind]
lotsa fans were screaming for a hard r-rating,with loads of blood and guts........well,they got it in AVP-r,yet still the some of the "fans" were unsatisfied,and cried bout it.kinda defeats making films for "the fans" dont it ?! i saw AVP-r,and immediately wondered wtf was going on in some fans minds......whats the problem ?.....reallllllly. it might be too much caffiene,too much booze,too much nicotine,.........too much american culture ? cause the movie kicked ass.[in my own humble opinion]
judging by some of the posts on this thread,the makers of the new predator film would get only two things from coming to look at this thread,and those two things are........a splitting headache,and a desire to bitch-slap some of the "fans" that have already deicded they dont like 'predators.'
why should the likes of a.d.i consider the ranting and screaming of some of the haters here to be worthy of note ?
if AVP and AVP-r had never have been made,then the predator films,and the subsequent fanbase would likely have gone the way of the dodo long ago.
im glad the final predator movie wasnt predator 2,cause that would have been truly tragic.[P2 in my opinion,was average at best.]
and hey,call me "gay" if it makes you feel tough,but posting positive comments about the newest installment is what im all about.if you think im "gay" because i post positive comments [on a fan-based sci-fi type film board thread forum] then come and spend a day in my shoes.
i think AVP was a really cool movie. i think AVP-r is a really cool movie. i reckon the guys n' gals at amalgamated dynamics are wizards & geniuses & i reckon my adi books on the making of AVP & AVP-r are the best [by far] books in my library of predator related books.
my narin wolf statue kicks ass......i get a kick outta standing in front of my cabinet and admiring it. i really like the design of the predalien.
i love the on screen fight between lex,scar and the queen in AVP.indeed,it was after viewing ian whyte do a few moves in his scar suit [on the making of AVP dvd] that i desired a scar costume.
i was truly impressed with the suit,and its awesome style.
i know for a fact that there are gonna be some things im gonna love bout 'predators' .....so im looking forward to seeing it.
so stick that in yer pipe,and smoke it.
Wolfie1381
New Member
perhaps it was made w/ the fans in mind, perhaps that was just hype. thing is, how many fans are there and how diverse are the opinions?! you simply can NEVER make a film "for the fans" that will please them all (or even most?).
i agree w/ much of what you say, and some other people's negativity actually, but to write stuff off blindly is a bit pointless. i'm a huge fan of a comic character. loved her to bits, set up a fan site. they gradually just sht on her and the fans issue after issue to the point i finally gave up wanting to read the travesties. they got a new writer. i gave it a try : it was horrid. they announced a new writer. "here we go again, why don't they just let her rest in piece?" ...and actually the comics were fkn fantastic. got antoher writer, some thing, fantastic. then they went bust, and after much waiting, they anounced a new comic, new writers. it sounded bad, but i gave it a chance. it was sht, unfortunately, but the point is, it IS possible for fresh blood to work wonders, and fore people to be pleasantly surprised.
disagree the Pred franchise would've died out, i think anything like this concept/franchise would've seen another film sometime, but it's undeniable that the two films kept interest alive. i agree about the films being good but flawed (you know what really narks me? AVP:r, end credits - special credit for the designs of giger, and not a work respecting Stan's designs), and AD being awesome talent.
if people wanna write this off, it's up to them, but some of the bile being spewed is totally out of hand i feel, but it's an open forum and their prerogative when they wanna post. if the creators DO visit though, i think a few well thought out posts expressing our hopes and wishes would go a lot farther than "this is gonna suck ar$e" and "these scum are raping our beloved franchise" before anything's even really underway.
i agree w/ much of what you say, and some other people's negativity actually, but to write stuff off blindly is a bit pointless. i'm a huge fan of a comic character. loved her to bits, set up a fan site. they gradually just sht on her and the fans issue after issue to the point i finally gave up wanting to read the travesties. they got a new writer. i gave it a try : it was horrid. they announced a new writer. "here we go again, why don't they just let her rest in piece?" ...and actually the comics were fkn fantastic. got antoher writer, some thing, fantastic. then they went bust, and after much waiting, they anounced a new comic, new writers. it sounded bad, but i gave it a chance. it was sht, unfortunately, but the point is, it IS possible for fresh blood to work wonders, and fore people to be pleasantly surprised.
disagree the Pred franchise would've died out, i think anything like this concept/franchise would've seen another film sometime, but it's undeniable that the two films kept interest alive. i agree about the films being good but flawed (you know what really narks me? AVP:r, end credits - special credit for the designs of giger, and not a work respecting Stan's designs), and AD being awesome talent.
if people wanna write this off, it's up to them, but some of the bile being spewed is totally out of hand i feel, but it's an open forum and their prerogative when they wanna post. if the creators DO visit though, i think a few well thought out posts expressing our hopes and wishes would go a lot farther than "this is gonna suck ar$e" and "these scum are raping our beloved franchise" before anything's even really underway.
celtic yautja
New Member
my point is this:the two AVP films added interest. new designs,new ideas,new characters, new bio helmets,new weapons........
and im glad for that.
i thought P2 was a saturday afternoon sci-fi cartoon spin-off type film. i didnt like it.it tried too hard to be 'tough' and just came off nasty in some regards.
the style of direction wasnt as good as the first film either.it was kinda "made for tv" in my opinion. right down to the animatronic,lifeless P2 closeup head.
i mean,how many times can we see a P1 costume before we "want more?"
i know that i am always looking for new ideas. nothing wrong with that.
new predator films provide new ideas.
why is it that when a forum member here makes a new pencil drawing concept sketch,its "cool" and worthy of note........yet when somebody from a.d.i does one,its immediately "manufactured crap?"
a double standard,and disrespectful to the filmmakers who bring our type of films to life.
this debate is pointless in the extreme. i got a life to live,gonna go out and live it.
see ya all at the premiere of PREDATORS..........its gonna rock,and you know it !!
a.d.i rock !!..tom rocks !!..alec rocks !!.....go for gold guys !!
peace guys n' gals !
lance.
post script: i regret participating in this pointless thread. i shall refrain from any further input.
and im glad for that.
i thought P2 was a saturday afternoon sci-fi cartoon spin-off type film. i didnt like it.it tried too hard to be 'tough' and just came off nasty in some regards.
the style of direction wasnt as good as the first film either.it was kinda "made for tv" in my opinion. right down to the animatronic,lifeless P2 closeup head.
i mean,how many times can we see a P1 costume before we "want more?"
i know that i am always looking for new ideas. nothing wrong with that.
new predator films provide new ideas.
why is it that when a forum member here makes a new pencil drawing concept sketch,its "cool" and worthy of note........yet when somebody from a.d.i does one,its immediately "manufactured crap?"
a double standard,and disrespectful to the filmmakers who bring our type of films to life.
this debate is pointless in the extreme. i got a life to live,gonna go out and live it.
see ya all at the premiere of PREDATORS..........its gonna rock,and you know it !!
a.d.i rock !!..tom rocks !!..alec rocks !!.....go for gold guys !!
peace guys n' gals !
lance.
post script: i regret participating in this pointless thread. i shall refrain from any further input.
BENSIN
Sr Member
Bensin, that pants poop post ---- I'm cryin' here, I'm laughing so hard!Too ******* funny.
Xalener
New Member
But...There was nothing outlandish or insane the star trek movie did that the original show didn't...
Alternate realities, time travel, Spock's mood swings, all of that **** was in the show.
I REALLY don't know what HK's whining about. No offense, but kirk has ALWAYS been a simple minded pussyhound...
I can actually explain why Kirk landed on the same ice planet the old spock did, but you probably wouldn't listen.
Look. As big of fans as we are of the predator franchise, we ALL know that first and foremost it's a god damned movie. No matter what happens now with the series, the movie that was released in the 80's and gave birth to the term "GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!" Will ALWAYS exist. No mater what. A new pred film won't change that. No matter how bad. No matter how good. Predator will always kick ass in our eyes. Same goes with Star Trek. No matter what you think of what is now, there's always the past. That's how films and movies work. They're immortal. Stan Winston may be dead, but I still see his face every time I come here. I still see his face on youtube. I still see his face on disc II of Iron Man. His body is gone, but his actions are still here. Etched into our memories. Etched into our technology. His creations continue on, probably forever untill all of the human race dies. Sure, they'll be ****** up and altered along the way (T600, scar predator) but they'll still be there. Hell, maybe the human race will forget about them, go digging around, find them, and then think they're real. Maybe Stan may have started a religion or two. Let's be thankful they aren't degrating at the lightning speeds of Giger's alien. Oh well. I'm not complaining. The original design still exists. Nothing can change that. I love how people talk about Hollywood like it's one entity whose SOUL purpose is to make movies. It's a ******* city. A right dull one at that. All it's got is a cylindrical building, other than that it's like Phillidelphia with more yuppies and trees :/ Movies are made all over the world by doesens of different entities. If you say "**** hollywood" You're saying "Well, AVPR was bad...so **** ALL movies that have been produced and will be produced."
There are plenty of REAL movies coming out. Original. District 9, The hurt locker, 9, moon, and probably more might be announced at comiccon... who knows? There will always be a mix of stupid rehashes and classic originals. It's always been this way. Since the first couple of black and white soundless movies were made, people have been adapting books and other movies. That's how it works. All this "these days" ******** is an illusion. Half-Knife, Carl, Colin. I'm sure you ALL enjoyed a movie when you were kids that pissed the **** out of an elder. You just don't see it that way because they were dear to you. The tables have turned. And when I'm 40-50, someone's probably going to make a movie about something that's dear to my childhood and butcher it. Maybe some guy'll make a Bionicle movie and make some famous pop musician the voice of pohatu, and give Gali huge organic metal boobs. And when the children of the generation show that they enjoy that I'll say "Hey, This offended me. I was a huge fan of this series since it started back in 99." And they'll look at me confused, explaining things about the story and filling in plotholes I created for myself in my blind rage. Hell, maybe I'LL be directing that childhood raping movie. Only time will tell.I understand what you're saying, knife. No matter how many times you repeat it to the stupid, immature, and uncultured 16 year old teenager that I am, I will NEVER be as chronically pissed as you. I already had my moment. Almost ******* killed myself in middleschool. I learned my lesson.
Truth be told, America never had class. It's stolen land. We aren't americans, we're neo europeans. But that's beside the point. The thing is that, along with "these days" class is an illusion. Class is simply the novelty of old tradition. Big explosions, ass shots, and **** will probably be looked back at fondly in the future. People will say:
"say good morning to Mr. Prior, Jimmy"
"Good morning Mr. Prior"
"Jimmy! Mannors!"
"Sowwy mom. Good ******* morning nigga"
"That's better, honey"
And there won't be a problem with that. We'll have the same basic frame of human society. Crime then will be the same. Pleasures then will stay the same. Real sophistication is just what's "in" during that century. That basic frame we've had forever. That's right. Class is just a really long, constantly evolving fad.
In other words. Stop ******* bitching.
If you want the original Predator so bad, pop the disc into the DVD player, and press play on the menu. Is there a black screen there? Did the universe explode? No. The movie still exists. It's hasn't become a void of space because of it's sequels/ spinoffs.
See? What did I tell you? If and when this movie happens, and you don't want to see it, just kick back, turn on the tv, and go 88mph into 1987. That simple.
And again, Half Knife. No offense, I'm just being honest. If the people at fox sifted through this forum for ideas, then you just singed this movie's death warrent. as soon as they read this thread, they will say "**** all of you. These ******** are who we're trying to please? You think they'd learn their lesson from AVPR. We are not to be ****** with. Because of one fluke we're getting death threats. When we retaliated with AVPR by ******* with the bros at every turn of production and giving them a tiny ass budget, they just didn't ******* learn. That's it. Rodriguez and Nimrod OUT! Neither of you are to speak of this project anymore, you're both FIRED! I wonder if Micheal Bay's busy..." I'm not saying that's really why AVPR sucked, I just had no other way to express this thought.
I really didn't want to have to post in this (now) shitstorm of a thread, but.... It had to be said. I had to unload somewhere. It feels good to get this **** off my chest.
To close. I'm not attacking anyone. I'm just questioning them. A question is not an attack, nor is it an insult. To feel threatened by a question...well...have it your way. You can choose to be angry. It really seems like you guys are finding ANY excuse you can to have a pussyfit.
Alternate realities, time travel, Spock's mood swings, all of that **** was in the show.
I REALLY don't know what HK's whining about. No offense, but kirk has ALWAYS been a simple minded pussyhound...
I can actually explain why Kirk landed on the same ice planet the old spock did, but you probably wouldn't listen.
Look. As big of fans as we are of the predator franchise, we ALL know that first and foremost it's a god damned movie. No matter what happens now with the series, the movie that was released in the 80's and gave birth to the term "GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!" Will ALWAYS exist. No mater what. A new pred film won't change that. No matter how bad. No matter how good. Predator will always kick ass in our eyes. Same goes with Star Trek. No matter what you think of what is now, there's always the past. That's how films and movies work. They're immortal. Stan Winston may be dead, but I still see his face every time I come here. I still see his face on youtube. I still see his face on disc II of Iron Man. His body is gone, but his actions are still here. Etched into our memories. Etched into our technology. His creations continue on, probably forever untill all of the human race dies. Sure, they'll be ****** up and altered along the way (T600, scar predator) but they'll still be there. Hell, maybe the human race will forget about them, go digging around, find them, and then think they're real. Maybe Stan may have started a religion or two. Let's be thankful they aren't degrating at the lightning speeds of Giger's alien. Oh well. I'm not complaining. The original design still exists. Nothing can change that. I love how people talk about Hollywood like it's one entity whose SOUL purpose is to make movies. It's a ******* city. A right dull one at that. All it's got is a cylindrical building, other than that it's like Phillidelphia with more yuppies and trees :/ Movies are made all over the world by doesens of different entities. If you say "**** hollywood" You're saying "Well, AVPR was bad...so **** ALL movies that have been produced and will be produced."
There are plenty of REAL movies coming out. Original. District 9, The hurt locker, 9, moon, and probably more might be announced at comiccon... who knows? There will always be a mix of stupid rehashes and classic originals. It's always been this way. Since the first couple of black and white soundless movies were made, people have been adapting books and other movies. That's how it works. All this "these days" ******** is an illusion. Half-Knife, Carl, Colin. I'm sure you ALL enjoyed a movie when you were kids that pissed the **** out of an elder. You just don't see it that way because they were dear to you. The tables have turned. And when I'm 40-50, someone's probably going to make a movie about something that's dear to my childhood and butcher it. Maybe some guy'll make a Bionicle movie and make some famous pop musician the voice of pohatu, and give Gali huge organic metal boobs. And when the children of the generation show that they enjoy that I'll say "Hey, This offended me. I was a huge fan of this series since it started back in 99." And they'll look at me confused, explaining things about the story and filling in plotholes I created for myself in my blind rage. Hell, maybe I'LL be directing that childhood raping movie. Only time will tell.I understand what you're saying, knife. No matter how many times you repeat it to the stupid, immature, and uncultured 16 year old teenager that I am, I will NEVER be as chronically pissed as you. I already had my moment. Almost ******* killed myself in middleschool. I learned my lesson.
Truth be told, America never had class. It's stolen land. We aren't americans, we're neo europeans. But that's beside the point. The thing is that, along with "these days" class is an illusion. Class is simply the novelty of old tradition. Big explosions, ass shots, and **** will probably be looked back at fondly in the future. People will say:
"say good morning to Mr. Prior, Jimmy"
"Good morning Mr. Prior"
"Jimmy! Mannors!"
"Sowwy mom. Good ******* morning nigga"
"That's better, honey"
And there won't be a problem with that. We'll have the same basic frame of human society. Crime then will be the same. Pleasures then will stay the same. Real sophistication is just what's "in" during that century. That basic frame we've had forever. That's right. Class is just a really long, constantly evolving fad.
In other words. Stop ******* bitching.
If you want the original Predator so bad, pop the disc into the DVD player, and press play on the menu. Is there a black screen there? Did the universe explode? No. The movie still exists. It's hasn't become a void of space because of it's sequels/ spinoffs.
See? What did I tell you? If and when this movie happens, and you don't want to see it, just kick back, turn on the tv, and go 88mph into 1987. That simple.
And again, Half Knife. No offense, I'm just being honest. If the people at fox sifted through this forum for ideas, then you just singed this movie's death warrent. as soon as they read this thread, they will say "**** all of you. These ******** are who we're trying to please? You think they'd learn their lesson from AVPR. We are not to be ****** with. Because of one fluke we're getting death threats. When we retaliated with AVPR by ******* with the bros at every turn of production and giving them a tiny ass budget, they just didn't ******* learn. That's it. Rodriguez and Nimrod OUT! Neither of you are to speak of this project anymore, you're both FIRED! I wonder if Micheal Bay's busy..." I'm not saying that's really why AVPR sucked, I just had no other way to express this thought.
I really didn't want to have to post in this (now) shitstorm of a thread, but.... It had to be said. I had to unload somewhere. It feels good to get this **** off my chest.
To close. I'm not attacking anyone. I'm just questioning them. A question is not an attack, nor is it an insult. To feel threatened by a question...well...have it your way. You can choose to be angry. It really seems like you guys are finding ANY excuse you can to have a pussyfit.
Viper15
New Member
Wow, i havn't read this thread in a while... it's turned icy
Anyway, back on track.... Does anybody know if ADI are doing the props for this one? My preferable answer would be "No Matt, Legacy are stepping in" Oh and for the record, im one of those "air heads" also, I loved the new star trek, some things just have to change im affraid.....
Anyway, back on track.... Does anybody know if ADI are doing the props for this one? My preferable answer would be "No Matt, Legacy are stepping in"
Oh and for the record, im one of those "air heads" also, I loved the new star trek, some things just have to change im affraid.....
Xalener
New Member
No. KNB is doing them right now. I don't have a problem with that, they do pretty good ****.....
Scratch that...
REALLY GOOD ****.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yr3W4YEUx8...re=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8GHdIx8sGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04c0evnFsY...feature=related
They've done EVERYTHING!
After watching that, I'd LOVE to see what they can do with predator.
Scratch that...
REALLY GOOD ****.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yr3W4YEUx8...re=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8GHdIx8sGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04c0evnFsY...feature=related
They've done EVERYTHING!
After watching that, I'd LOVE to see what they can do with predator.
Garo Predator
New Member
Ummm wth?
Viper15
New Member
Thanks, that is good to here imo, they have done some really awsome stuff!!!! Im looking forward to seeing what they do with the predator, hopefully they will keep true to the original design for the most part but im happy to see a few fresh idea's
Robillicus
New Member
I agree with this, and I also think that FOX should not make another Predator movie. Here's why... they will never, ever put forth that kind of money. As far as suits and effects, they will always go to the lowest bidder. They don't get it, and they never will because we as fans expect some level of quality. We were apparently spoiled in the '80's with PREDATOR and ALIENS, then in the '90's with PREDATOR 2. Come on.. look at the shots of the Lost Hunters. The colors, the detail... that's a hell of a lot of work for something onscreen for less than five minutes. That's ******* dedication. As far as AVP:R is concerned.. that cut budget short time line stuff is crap. Look at PREDATOR and PREDATOR 2. Both movies were supposedly short budgeted and cut deadline movies. However, SWS managed to give some amazing eye candy. Again, the Lost Hunter pictures. If movies were free, I wouldn't care. But, they're not, and I expect something other than a raging headache full of rage for the price of my ticket. Why do you think pirated movies are so damn popular? No one wants to pay to see this ****. Come on, and that's the goddamn truth right there. People would rather risk prosecution than spend $15 and watch and hour-and-a-half of assholery. I don't know about you, but that speaks volumes to me.
Half-Knife - You rock. Your passion for Star Trek rivals my own with the Predator franchise. I can totally see where you're coming from. I know how you feel when what you were passionate about was turned upside down, and right into a characture of its former self. I will admit that I did like the new Star Trek movie, BUT I have never been a Trek fan. So I kind of had the benefit of seeing it without all of the fan allegiances. However, I feel the Predator franchise has succumed to the same fate.. just over a longer period of time. As far as I'm concerned, FOX has managed to ruin one of their most notable characters. An original one at that!!
The next movie might be alright. I don't know, it all depends on how far Rodriguez wants to "refresh" the character. But, to me, the Character doesn't need to be refreshed.... it's the ******* ******** incharge of him that need a ******* refresh!!! ***** H. ******, no one is more responsible for the death of the Predator more than FOX. (Rob rant on) You can ******* keep your ******* fuckstick AVP. Take AVP:R and make into a ***** and shove it so far up your ass it'd make Jeffrey Dahmer weep. They cut the quality of their movies so they can keep on living their same old ********, lavish lifestyles. They're not artists, they're ******* business men. And as long as they have their luxuries who ******* cares. Retard the Predator, ruin the Alien, and fart and piss on everything else so long as there's always someone there to hold my cock while I piss!!!
You ******* give the Predator back to where it belongs. Not ADI, not KNB.. but right back to Legacy Effects. You give credit back to one of the greatest men of all time and not further his creation into an onscreen retarded joke slash characture.
Skullsplitter
Sr Member
Although I'd love see Legacy get the predators again, I'm dead curious how KNB, notorious for realistic make-up, would treat the creature. Hell, I'd be all for KNB and Legacy working on them together.
All I'm saying is that Legacy isn't the only one who can make proper predators, just because they did the originals.
All I'm saying is that Legacy isn't the only one who can make proper predators, just because they did the originals.
lordderak
New Member
My god u are a bitter bitter man....Kirk was arrogant in the new movie!!!!!wtf You claim to be a Old Star Trek fan..wasnt Kirk always arrogant?
disobeying orders from starfleet etc etc...oh and please explain to me how spock is ****** up in the movie!!! enlighten me please...thank **** bitter heads up their own asses trekkies like u are in the shrinking minority...****** we would never get another decent movie if u were in charge..
