PREDATORS - MOVIE INFO

[MoviesColin]

Wolfie, xalener...

Guys it is OBVIOUS that the 'powers that be' are exploiting this stuff for all its worth. I'm sure they are bugging Lucas to do more Star Wars as well.

The point is, they don't care how they get their money, as long as they get it. C'mon, you're telling me you haven't seen the trend? Remakes of old films, prequels... Ever notice that they suck? You want examples? Here: Hannibal Rising, Star Trek, Friday the 13th, My Bloody Valentine, Halloween, ect. They tried to be prequels and series "revivers" but they just ended up bombing.

Hopefully this trend will pass, but so far the only films released in the 2000's (besides a select few) are fast, in-your-face, explosions and monsters.

When I said "****" everybody, I meant it. If Arnold walked up to me and asked me why I would say that to him, I'd back it up. What I mean is he should NOT be involved in this film, nobody should. It shouldn't be made.

Instead of focusing their talents on ****** remakes and "re-discoveries" and re-whatever, why don't they create something original?

The idea of this movie taking place on the Pred homeworld is the sealer. I mean, c'mon. How do you think they are going to show it? You think they're going to come up with something mysterious and creepy and frightening? No. They're going to show that barren ******** place with a ton of pred ships and a ton of predators walking around and going to the grocery store and speed dating and showing us their daily routines - all so some 14 year old kids can go "Oh sweet, predators are awesome, I'm so glad the guy that made AVP thought of them" (Yes, I've heard that before.)

So forget it, I give up on this franchise and I give up on Hollywood execs.

 

[Usurper]

Not sure how you can put STAR TREK in the middle of a bunch of slasher films,( i think generally Star trek was considerd a success ) but i get your point.

Maybe they will come up with some amazing script. . . . . . . . no seriously. . . . i was not meaning to sound sarcastic hehe.

yeah i know, not a GREAT deal of hope there, but still there IS alittle hope that they will get it right.

Fingers crossed we will get to hear some more info to mull over and dissect in the near future.

 

[PredatrHuntr]

moviescolin - I really don't understand why you are so vehemently opposed to this movie. I remember certain people saying that AVP:R was gonna suck donkey balls and that it should never be made. I've even heard some people say that the Predator should never be on the big screen again. But for the most part the majority of us WANT to see Predator again in hopes that they can recapture the same element from the 1st and 2nd movies but with a little flair and pazaz to make it enjoyable once again. The thing is that we still get the benefit of new Bio designs, weapons, etc which end up being replicated by the prop collectors here. No matter how ****** AVPR was, no one can dispute the fact that Ian Whyte was fantastic as the Predator.

So even though "Predators" may be a ****** movie, it may also be a kick ass movie. And even if its a ****** movie with zero plot and crappy characters, we will still have MORE Predator Bios, armor, weapons, and technology to keep us replicating them for years to come.

Second thing to look at is your opposition to remakes. Personally I think that if they are well written, directed and acted that the movie has a very high likelyhood of becoming as good if not better than the original. IE: Star Trek. I also thought Friday the 13th was a good take on how brutal Jason can be.

Think about something for a second - how many fresh and new movie scripts do you think Hollywood sees now a days - scripts that are 100% genuine and have never been done before? I am willing to bet that there are very few ideas that have not already been written in one shape or form in the past. LOTR and the Matrix come to mind. Since then - hmmmm...I can't think if anything that original hitting the big screen.

The fact is that remakes are here to stay simply because the fresh ideas are drying up. To say that all remakes are garbage is just ignorant...gotta give credit where its due.

 

[Half Knife]

I totally disagree with the Star Trek thing. They **** on all TRUE original Star Trek fans and hopefully, the "revived" franchise will be short lived. They only got away with it because it's set in an "alternate reality". Same old excuses Paramount has been using for years. The truth here is that they don't have anyone who is competent enough to tell the story of the younger Kirk, Spock, etc., so they came up with this bucket of feces to feed airheaded losers because they knew they'd eat it up. I agreed with most of what you said besides that. **** THE YOUNGER GENERATION, THE OLDER GENERATION IS STILL AROUND!!! No offense. Don't **** on our icons like they did with Star Trek! The Predator doesn't need a different look, or anything like that. Don't **** something up just so the "younger audiences" can have something that is far inferior to the original. Otherwise, we'll have more AVPRs and so on. Think it through for a change!!! Fresh ideas haven't dried up, just the same old burned out minds!

 

[Xcalibor]

Wow dude, someone needs a ******* nap. Again, its fine to have your opinion but who the **** are you to attack the people that did like it. "Airheaded Losers". really? Are you angry because kirk wasn't played by slap nuts again? Are you angry because they didn't use **** FX? Grow the **** up dude. Seriously getting pretty tired of some people on here attacking others because their view points don't match up. What ever happened to rhetoric and civilized disagreements and conversation? I can see your point about star trek and it being different. But not everyone was around to watch the original series and some didn't bother to go back and watch them. Others did. The old generation and new generation went to see the movie and i know some of the old trekies who loved it.

Seriously, if you want to act like a child and call people names because they liked a movie that you hated, go somewhere else....like the ******* freeway.

KPH

 

[celtic yautja]

the very fact that predators is being made gives me a reason to smile,and a reason to look forward to its release.
if we get to go to the movies,with the intention of seeing the hunters on the big screen one more time,then sign me up.
the last film i really,really wanted to see at the movies was AVP-R.......and i enjoyed it. ian whyte nailed wolf,and we,the fans get to make,paint,sculpt more pred goodness in the form of the new predator:wolf.
sure,AVP & AVP-r had faults,but then again,so did the 'muppets take manhattan'
each new film that gets made,gives our fan community a few more months of 'buzz'.......and for me,thats magic.
coming here,and reading new tid-bits on the upcoming film is like christmas time in my opinion. its truly awesome.
within any franchise of films,there are good installments,and there are bad installments,.........and then once in a while,..........something comes along......
that completely rocks n' rules.

im stoked !!.....lets see some new hunters !!!!
im countin the days till i can get in to the cinema,popcorn in hand,ice-cream,soda-pop & a huge cheesy ol' grin on my face.

 

[Garo Predator]

Yuap Yuap! Like the others before me said it may be a **** movie and critics will hate it but we get to see predator again ya know? We get to see a new badass alien on the big screen. We get more hot toys! We will get more props and bios and costumes to make! So thoese haten on the new movie should stay off this thread if it makes you mad and you are gonna have a problem. I mean thats on of the things I am looking forward to next summer! Along with growing.... and the new AVP game!

 

[celtic yautja]

Yuap Yuap! Like the others before me said it may be a **** movie and critics will hate it but we get to see predator again ya know? We get to see a new badass alien on the big screen. We get more hot toys! We will get more props and bios and costumes to make! So thoese haten on the new movie should stay off this thread if it makes you mad and you are gonna have a problem. I mean thats on of the things I am looking forward to next summer! Along with growing.... and the new AVP game!

amen jules.
this is soo very cool. im stoked they're doin it !!.......PREDATORS RULE!!..

 

[Usurper]

I totally disagree with the Star Trek thing. They **** on all TRUE original Star Trek fans and hopefully, the "revived" franchise will be short lived. They only got away with it because it's set in an "alternate reality". Same old excuses Paramount has been using for years. The truth here is that they don't have anyone who is competent enough to tell the story of the younger Kirk, Spock, etc., so they came up with this bucket of feces to feed airheaded losers because they knew they'd eat it up. I agreed with most of what you said besides that. **** THE YOUNGER GENERATION, THE OLDER GENERATION IS STILL AROUND!!! No offense. Don't **** on our icons like they did with Star Trek! The Predator doesn't need a different look, or anything like that. Don't **** something up just so the "younger audiences" can have something that is far inferior to the original. Otherwise, we'll have more AVPRs and so on. Think it through for a change!!! Fresh ideas haven't dried up, just the same old burned out minds!

Well thats your opinion i guess,and you know that opinions are like ********. but if you want to get all ******* nostalic, in the 1st 2 series of star trek they had like 4 episodes of time travel and alternate reality! so they were allowed to do that in the series but now because shitner isnt there they cannot? hahaha too funny.

as for your feces, airhead losers, i liked the film as did my kids, so i resist the temptaion to throw a obvious insult back, how about trying to argue your point without the insults?
and actually ALOT more people liked it than not, so maybe you are the airhead for not being open minded enough.

I agree about ******** on our icons, but some things NEED to change, kirk etc , could they be played the same? no could they ****, the predator, can he be portrayed the same yes, as hes NOT a human character you can have a similar looking beast so i totally agree he doesnt need to change, why change something what worked so well.

for all my reservations i sincerly hope predators rocks, but it will not stop me discussing the potential pifalls if i see fit.

 

[Wolfie1381]

Moviescolin

Yeah, i take your point : it's stuff i've ranted about myself many times, cos i'm older that 18 and saw lots of stuff originally that has recently been touted for remakes/reboots : like RoboCop, Near Dark, Escape From New York ~ in all those cases, i was blindly against them simply because they are so good they don't NEED remaking. it's the same reason i'm against the Predator remake that was touted at one time. new films tho, that's a diffrent proposition. i am fully aware Holywood is out to make money, and the corporates don't really care about the fans, but that is no reason to write a film off before it's even remotely begun. if it was using that original script, yes : but apparently it's not. AVP : R got the living sht ripped out of it when someone posted a review of a spec script on Ain't It Cool and wrote it off before the script was even finalised. Fine, plenty hate that film, but i thought it was okay (my major gripe was not plot, it was the lighting - could hardly see owt!).
the point i'm simply trying to make, is that it's pretty stupid to write this off based on the last two. it's an entirely new team. they MIGHT get some fanboy writer in. they MIGHT have some stunning new ideas/designs. let's face it, all the complaints seemt o be because AVP 1&2 sucked (to those complaining) ~ well no one's involved from those films, so why not think of that as a positive? Re the Pred planet : we've already had a glimpse of it. we don't need to see them "going to the grocery store and speed dating and showing us their daily routines". it could be a crashlanding, they glimpse the city and recognise the Preds, but their arrival's been noted and they end up chased by a pack of Preds as they struggle to reach a Pred ship to escape in. or whatever. we can be there w/out having to fill it w/ inanity, is my point.

like i said, each to their own. spew bile if you want, i'll wait for further info, then the trailers before making my decision.

 

[Robillicus]

How odd that I find myself in the minority yet again, and on top of that agreeing my with my old friend Colin. Yeah, this movie totally doesn't need to be made.

I'd say, that if anything, the last two movies are the best reasons why there shouldn't be another Predator film. Ever. It's been proven twice that Hollywood and FOX are completely inept at building upon the previous two movies. That's right... Predator 2 is a godsend compared to the last two movies. "Waaaahhh.. he ran away." Well that's because there was actual thought that went into the movie and the development and actions of the creature. Say what you will.. Predator 2 was leaps and bounds beyond the last two movies before they even came out. Alright, I digress...

No, wait. I don't. The last two movies were stupid. I will give AVP one thing, it did have better production values when they weren't inverting shots. AVP:R was just a punch in the face to every Predator fan. Who care's about Alien fans. They're still trying to crawl out of the massive load that was dumped on them years ago. Joss Whedon... really? He needs to retract the "Whedonverse" back into his rectum because no one cares.

There's just so much **** that I want to say when people talk about the "new" Predator movie. Everyone gets all ******* gay about it, and excited like it's gonna be the new Star Wars. "OHHHH!!! They're gonna do it differently this time." "A new director and blah.. blah.. blah.." Who ******* cares. They did it differently the first time. It was not good.

You know what.. after some thought, and yes I am capable of such, I've decided to just say what I think. AVP was a huge let-down. AVP:R was an even bigger let down. Why? Actually I don't care why. I really don't. I want to know why Stan Winston Studios wasn't involved in AVP. I want to know why Stan Winston Studios wasn't involved in AVP:R. I don't care about the previous Alien movies because they were just building upon something already established. But the Predator was Stans baby. Why wasn't SWS involved in the last two movies? They did the work for P2, and while it wasn't a great movie the Predator is what made the movie.

So does it come down to money? SWS too expensive? Probably! Because that's who everything works in the real world. I just can't get past the fact that SWS didn't do the FX for the past Predator films. I'm sorry, but thta's just the way I feel. There's so much more I want to say, but I won't. So many different emotions.

I really don't care what Robert Rodriguez does to the Predator franchise. What can he do to make it even more weak than it already is. Take it to the home planet. Do whatever you want oh almight filmaker. You've got the money and resources, do what ever the **** you want to on a whim. Becaue I bet you were bored one day watching "Predator" on the FX channel... and you said to yourself, "Hey, look what I can do on a whim because I have nothing else going on. Im gonna make a movie on their home planet and **** myself all the way to the bank because I'm Robert Rodriguez and I make booms. Not like Micheal Bay, but one day!!! Maybe I'll stick Quentin Tarantino in there somewhere. Yeah!!!!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh..... "You bashed the movie before it was even scripted." **** up. Really, just shut up.

****.

 

[MoviesColin]

Rob, I love you man.

How can I **** on a movie before anything is finalized?

It's called educated guessing.

Take a look at the previous detrimental installments, and tell me you have hope.


And not all remakes are ******. It takes a very particular set of skills and talents to turn out a good film. Some good ones? Christopher Nolan and everyone he was involved with.

Anyways, they make these movies for you guys. Just to see the Predator on the screen again. Cause you'll pay money for it.

Well **** that. Sorry, I want to see a GOOD MOVIE. Not just a predator. If I wanted to see that, I'd watch a fanfilm.

 

[Usurper]

Look im one of the people who has HUGE reservations about Predators or whatever the **** it ends up being called.

BUT the previous "detrimental installments" (which i 100% agree about ) were NOT Predator3 or Predators ( again whatever they want to call it ) they were the mix up of the 2 best movie monsters,turning them into D grade movie slashers.

I personally have ALITTLE hope because this at LEAST they have seperated the 2 , and are going back , ( agreed maybe in name only ) to a stand alone PREDATOR film.

So i guess ill continue to have huge worries about it , but at the same time ill reseve some tiny amount of hope.

 

[BENSIN]

I POOP MY PANTS!

 

[Xcalibor]

um Bensin..... does this have anything to do with the topic?

 

[BENSIN]

Yes, actually it does.

 

[Half Knife]

Wow dude, someone needs a ******* nap. Again, its fine to have your opinion but who the **** are you to attack the people that did like it. "Airheaded Losers". really? Are you angry because kirk wasn't played by slap nuts again? Are you angry because they didn't use **** FX? Grow the **** up dude. Seriously getting pretty tired of some people on here attacking others because their view points don't match up. What ever happened to rhetoric and civilized disagreements and conversation? I can see your point about star trek and it being different. But not everyone was around to watch the original series and some didn't bother to go back and watch them. Others did. The old generation and new generation went to see the movie and i know some of the old trekies who loved it.

Seriously, if you want to act like a child and call people names because they liked a movie that you hated, go somewhere else....like the ******* freeway.

KPH

You can save your precious little angry faces, I meant what I said. It's better to let something die than to cut out its heart and fill it with crap instead. That's what they did to Star Trek. They couldn't let it die in peace. That movie should never have been made. It is a perfect example of how much they can screw something up and make megabucks off of it. If you liked that movie, then you probably don't care what happens to the Predator, or anything else that someone might choose to sacrifice for the sake of the younger audience and the almighty dollar. FX has nothing to do with it. Are they going to trash up the Predator so that franchise will die as well, or worse, keep squeezing out inferior movies and wonder why they can't get it "rebooted"? I just hope that whatever the finished film turns out to be, it's true to the original and if anything is changed, it isn't anything major, and the positives outweigh the negatives. Something original would be nice.

 

[Garo Predator]

um Bensin..... does this have anything to do with the topic?

lol somebody needed to put some funny in all this arguing and fighting lol

 

[ptgreek]

Hmmm? ..they got Nimrod Antal to direct it ....I actually liked Kontrol ..Vacancy was ok, but his newest film "Armored" has a pretty good early buzz to it. Here is the Trailer ..apparently this is what proved to RR that this guy can direct action as well as art and horror.

TRAILER FOR ARMORED

sorry ..I look at these things when wondering what is happening to a Franchise I love.

Jury's out still

 

[Xcalibor]

To make the claim that if i liked Star Trek then i don't care about what happens to the predator is ******* stupid. I'm not a huge trek fan, never have been, and i did like the new one. I watched the movie with a bit of an open mind because i didn't know alot of the old lore. The acting was awesome and the story, i thought, was decent. Which is more than we get nowadays with movies. To say that they **** on ALL true star trek fans is dumb too. Like i said, i know alot of die hard trek fans that loved and hated it. And as much as i hate to say it, it IS a business. Hmmmm, do they cater to (dare i say) the older generation who probably don't go see as many movies who grew up with this or do they try to make a movie that everyone can at least identify with. Business sense would say the later. So don't get all hot and bothered that the hollywood execs didn't suck you off first.

i do care what they do with the predator, but i'm past the point of caring about them doing the movie or not. Nothing i say or do will stop it and there is no point in getting fired up about it. Hollywood will do what they do regardless of what the pred die hards want or have to say about it because, believe it or not, we are in the minority. I love the creature and what they did in AVP to the character bastardized it, me whinning and bitching about it won't change what they did or what they will do because people will still go see it and buy it on DVD and Blu Ray so they make money. And i'll reserve judgements on all movies till i see a little more hard facts about the movie (i.e. script, cast, previews etc.) Throwing it out now just because its a post 1992 predator movie is a little rediculous in my book.. Hollywood might screw up and give us gold. Who the **** knows.

And the angry face wasn't for content it was for you chosing to be a ******* child and call a general group of people who don't share your taste "airheads" and idiots. So maybe next time when someone doesn't share your taste or whatever, be a little more grown up about it.

KPH