Picard S2
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That's the problem with Clones/Replicants etc
The personality traits never ports over...
Bloop
Sr Member
But apparently you can make a hologram of anyone in an instant, that retains all their personality, including their memories at the time of their death:
Hologram Elnor: "Raffi, I share the recollection of Elnor's final breath, enough to know that his final thoughts of you were not of blame, but of love."
I would be interested to know how some of the people who are enjoying and to an extent defending the show from genuine criticism of what is essentially fantasy elements of storytelling rather than science fiction, can look at the characters say these things and just think "yep that makes sense", without questioning.
So ANYONE who steps onto Rios' ship can just be magically recreated? How long is that data kept in the ship's memory? How many dead people's identities are capable of being stored? If Rios' ship has holoemitters everywhere why did Elnor need a mobile emitter to operate within the confines of the ship? If they had the ability to recreate anyone who had been on the ship, why not make 10 copies of Seven or Rios to fend off the Borg or create holographic forcefields to contain the Borg/Borg Queen?
I appreciate sometimes there is an element of suspension of disbelief with certain aspects of science fiction but most of Kurtzman Trek doesn't even try to be based in science, three's just a huge amount of handwaving and expectation that enough people are too busy checking Facebook or Twitter or watching Tik Tok videos to notice these ridiculous leaps of logic.
From Kirk swing kicking the warpcore into alignment in one of the awful JJ films, which I'm sure is just what the team at CERN did recently when they upgraded their highly tuned and extremely precise equipment, to a sophisticated, essentially A.I. computer which employs a universal translator to translate alien languages but can't understand reboot Chekov's Russian accent (apparently because that's funny) to devices in the Picard series that just require you to believe they'll work like some kind of fairy magic, to crew members having emotional meltdowns during various crises in Disco.
Everyone has some kind of trommmmmuhhhhh (trauma), because all of the people writing the show are possibly channeling their own neuroses and lack of emotional resilience through established characters because everyone is apparently damaged and can't be good at their job.
Take any of the characters from Disco and Picard and drop them into any episode of previous Star Trek and I guarantee you would be thinking what the heck is this, this character feels so badly writen and at odds with everyone around them.
People like what they like and if you are happy to enjoy these series as pieces of entertainment that's fine but you can't deny there are leaps of logic and basic storytelling that are hallmarks of any and all Kurtzman Trek that is just a fact.
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
My guess is that Seven will be the Renee who dies so that ancestress Renee can live on.
Jurati is written out, the rest of the cast need to be displaced for the Next Generation cast for season three.
It will also have a title change from Star Trek Picard, to Star Trek: The Next Degradation.
Jurati is written out, the rest of the cast need to be displaced for the Next Generation cast for season three.
It will also have a title change from Star Trek Picard, to Star Trek: The Next Degradation.
somerset fox
Sr Member
So, when the future Picards move back to the chateau sometime in the future, there’ll be some desiccated bodies of the dead borged mercs in the walls, ready for them to find. That’ll be nice for them!
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
After my mother died, my father took up stonework sculpting in the catacombs of Château Picard. He said that putting the statues of people into the walls, made him feel as if there would always be life roaming the lower bowels of the estate. No longer would they represent the death of my mother by her own hands. That’s the official record that’s going into the logs.
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
Wait, wait, wait a minute!
if Agnes talked the Borg queen out of being mean and nasty, and instead becoming a Borg collective that was union based, and run by its members, then what in the world happened to the rest of history?
The Borg never messed with Cochran on earth.
first contact with the Borg in Wyoming never happened.
The Borg never became the collective that we knew of.
Annika was never assimilated, and therefore never became seven of nine.
she was never a member of the crew of the USS Voyager.
it took the USS Voyager 23 years to make it back from the Delta quadrant after all.
Hugh was never assimilated into the collective, was never freed from the collective, and he never worked on a captured Borg vessel in cooperation with the Romulans.
Starfleet never used Borg technology in the creation of its ships.
Q never sent the enterprise to the Delta quadrant, for their first experience with them.
Guinan’s home planet was never destroyed, so she was never a homeless refugee. Therefore she likely never served aboard the USS enterprise or knew Picard.
Lieutenant Hawk never died.
Benjamin Sisko never lost his wife, as there was never a battle of wolf 359.
he never married Cassidy Yates, and had another child.
and several dozen more things that I can’t think of right now.
It’s a good thing that Rios installed a butterfly inhibitor on board that ship!
if Agnes talked the Borg queen out of being mean and nasty, and instead becoming a Borg collective that was union based, and run by its members, then what in the world happened to the rest of history?
The Borg never messed with Cochran on earth.
first contact with the Borg in Wyoming never happened.
The Borg never became the collective that we knew of.
Annika was never assimilated, and therefore never became seven of nine.
she was never a member of the crew of the USS Voyager.
it took the USS Voyager 23 years to make it back from the Delta quadrant after all.
Hugh was never assimilated into the collective, was never freed from the collective, and he never worked on a captured Borg vessel in cooperation with the Romulans.
Starfleet never used Borg technology in the creation of its ships.
Q never sent the enterprise to the Delta quadrant, for their first experience with them.
Guinan’s home planet was never destroyed, so she was never a homeless refugee. Therefore she likely never served aboard the USS enterprise or knew Picard.
Lieutenant Hawk never died.
Benjamin Sisko never lost his wife, as there was never a battle of wolf 359.
he never married Cassidy Yates, and had another child.
and several dozen more things that I can’t think of right now.
It’s a good thing that Rios installed a butterfly inhibitor on board that ship!
This is CW-levels of stupidity right here.
I saw no disclaimer at the beginning of each episode of Picard that said that “thinking” would be either required or encouraged in order to watch the show.
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Watching this and being reminded of the stupidity of running Picard over and not Rene to stop the launch, why didnt they take Picard to Rios' ship and use that magic wand tool where you just have to believe
peterquill
Sr Member
these guys are broken, but man its good
like an art critic talking about a kids picture magneted on a refrigerator
(if anyone asks, this is how i will refer to this show from now on)
wait my phones ringing, i think they want me to write for picard
completely lost it at this point,
and a shame about the table
nailed it 39 minutes in.
He can't help it, he grew up too fast after finding the body....
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