PG-13 ruined movies

[Jedi2016]

Films made for adults need to stay R. I'm so tired of these films shooting for the PG13 rating to get kids to see something that wasn't meant for them...

This is the biggest problem I have with the "PG-13 neutering syndrome". Making the film PG-13 will not guarantee that a bunch of teenie-boppers will run out to see it, if it's subject matter that they have no interest in.

Case in point: Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. Does anyone really think the box office would have been that much bigger with a PG-13 rating? It would never even have occurred to the filmmakers to appeal to, or market to, a teenage audience. Like other greats like The Godfather, they would have found it supremely boring anyway (I didn't appreciate films like that until I was much older).

 

[Jeyl]

PG-13 - Not recommended for little children; blood minimal/fantasy violence; moderate language (No F bombs or strong offensive slang)

PG-13 movies can contain F-Bombs. Ocean's Eleven contains not one, but two F-Bombs. The PG rated Space Balls has one, Catch Me If You Can has one, and even "The Sixth Day" has one used is an absurd sexual sense.

 

[Laspector]

What gets me is who decides which curse words are allowed or not? Why is it okay to use the other word for poop, but not okay to use the other word for sex?...:confused.makes no sense.

 

[niennumb1]

PG-13 movies can contain F-Bombs. Ocean's Eleven contains not one, but two F-Bombs. The PG rated Space Balls has one, Catch Me If You Can has one, and even "The Sixth Day" has one used is an absurd sexual sense.

Oh I know. I should have stated that what I put was more wishful thinking in how I would do ratings. I think it also should depend on the context of how a word is used for audiences. I'm not one who personally cares about censorship, but as a parent I don't think children need to be using certain language around people and belongs in a more adult oriented film. That being said I don't think the F word holds much power in anything and should qualify for an instant R rating. The S word is more flexible depending how it's used, but shouldn't be excessive and also isn't a word that holds a lot of power in itself.

They're probably equally bad words, but for some reason I've always thought the F word to be a worse one. It's probably because of the many ways it gets used negatively toward someone over the alternate meaning of sex slang. It's just a touchy subject all around. I don't use either in typical conversation, and speaking in terms of movies, my top 10 favorite movies don't contain any such language which speaks volumes in terms of how powerful the stories have been that didn't need the language.

 

[Jeyl]

What gets me is who decides which curse words are allowed or not? Why is it okay to use the other word for poop, but not okay to use the other word for sex?...:confused.makes no sense.

Or how about who gets to decide that the context of the said use of curse words is relevant to what is appropriate and what isn't? Case in point, The Kings Speech. We have a character who is told by his doctor to curse for medicinal purposes and does so. Not to insult anyone or even try to provoke anger by use of said curse words, but to figure out ways to help his speech impediment.

 

[Zombie_61]

What gets me is who decides which curse words are allowed or not? Why is it okay to use the other word for poop, but not okay to use the other word for sex?...:confused.makes no sense.

This is a good example of what I was referring to when I wrote this in post #19:

...Yes, they have a very loose set of "guidelines" (if you want to call them that), but every time they review a movie in order to establish it's rating their decisions are all based on the opinions of the board members which are completely arbitrary and inconsistent...

They really need to establish a fixed set of guidelines that apply to all movies equally. Otherwise, it shows they're unfairly giving preferential treatment to certain movies, and punitive treatment to others.

 

[laserpistol76]

PG-13 movies can contain F-Bombs. Ocean's Eleven contains not one, but two F-Bombs. The PG rated Space Balls has one, Catch Me If You Can has one, and even "The Sixth Day" has one used is an absurd sexual sense.

I read that if a movie has more than 5 f-bombs, it's rated R.

 

[The Terminator]

What gets me is who decides which curse words are allowed or not? Why is it okay to use the other word for poop, but not okay to use the other word for sex?...:confused.makes no sense.

Let alone the whole nudity vs violence issue.

 

[seelsa73]

I read that if a movie has more than 5 f-bombs, it's rated R.

In the commentary for Live Free or Die Hard, Len Wiseman said that you're allowed one f-bomb in a PG-13 movie (yet in the theatrical release of that movie the iconic John McClane line was covered up even though there otherwise were no f-bombs in it, which kinda pissed me off.)

 

[rodneyfaile]

Let alone the whole nudity vs violence issue.

You can kill someone, just don't have sex with them.

 

[Rotwang]

Bums on seats, and as many of them as possible. Movies cost a ton of money so you need to sell lots of tickets and you are shooting yourself in the foot by making a film that restricts the audience in any way.

I doubt things will improve in the long run, or maybe the industry will implode and try something different.

 

[Jeyl]

In the commentary for Live Free or Die Hard, Len Wiseman said that you're allowed one f-bomb in a PG-13 movie (yet in the theatrical release of that movie the iconic John McClane line was covered up even though there otherwise were no f-bombs in it, which kinda pissed me off.)

Some would say that "mother fu*****" is using the f-bomb in a sexual context, which according to the MPAA is an automatic R.

 

[SSgt Burton]

I read that if a movie has more than 5 f-bombs, it's rated R.

I was going to say that "Planes Trains and Automobiles" didn't receive a R rating up here (I think it was Adult Accompaniment- Canada's PG-14)---

However I just read that it "did" receive an R rating in the States, for its 19 F-bombs in a row. :lol


Kevin

 

[DeathFromADesk]

However I just read that it "did" receive an R rating in the States, for its 19 F-bombs in a row.

One of the greatest scenes in movie history!

 

[MaddMaxx82]

I would like to point out that the MPAA Rating System, is guidelines, not rules. Think of it in terms of the context of which items in these guidelines are used, within the messages conveyed in a film in its entirety. I would also like to point out that these guidelines have drastically changed over the last 40 years. So its unfair to compare one movie made in the 70s or 80s to a more current release.

Example: Comparing Robocop, to Schindlers List.

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[rodneyfaile]

Like I said, you can kill someone, you just can't have sex with them.

 

[Solo4114]

Like I said, you can kill someone, you just can't have sex with them.

You can do both. You just can't do one as graphically as the other.

Fiona Volpe can get shot and you see blood appear, but NO BOOBIES ON SCREEN or you lose that PG rating.