Painting or Building, which comes first?

tek2graphics

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Hello all, I've been building scale models as a hobby for years and i've always painted my kit by parts as they are being built. But lately i've noticed that several model builders look like they build the entire kit, then paint it. (ex. Millennium Falcon):love
So my question is, is there an advantage in building the kit it 1st? Or is it just a matter of taste? :confused
 
I build the entire thing first, then paint. CA glue messes with some paints so I don't take any chances.

Also, when I glue plastic to PVC, the bond is very good. Plastic to primer etc isn't as strong. I build my stuff very tough and sturdy.

FB
 
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I build the entire thing first, then glue. CA glue messes with some paints so I don't take any chances.

Also, when I glue plastic to PVC, the bond is very good. Plastic to primer etc isn't as strong. I build my stuff very tough and sturdy.

FB

Thanks, but what do you mean "build first than glue?"
 
OK thanks, what about (for example) an X Wing? Should I glue the whole thing 1st, then paint it? What about the inside of the wings? Or a FM Falcon, glue all 1st?
 
OK thanks, what about (for example) an X Wing? Should I glue the whole thing 1st, then paint it? What about the inside of the wings? Or a FM Falcon, glue all 1st?

I'm sure the heavyweights will chime in but I would build and glue it all first, then paint it.

There's nowhere an airbrush and masking can't go, at least in my experience.

FB
 
I've been building model kits since the late 60s. In my experience, it depends on the kit (i.e., how it's engineered) and the level of detail you want to put into it (or paint onto it).

Simple example: You wouldn't completely assemble a car kit and expect to be able to fully detail the interior, would you? No, you'd build and paint the interior as a sub-assembly before you put the body onto the chassis. On the other end of the spectrum, most figure kits can be completely assembled before painting because there are nothing but external surfaces to be painted.

IMO the best thing to do before starting any kit is to lay out all of the parts in front of you and examine the instruction sheet (if applicable). Decide how detailed you want the finished product to be, and figure out which components of the kit need to be assembled and completed as a sub-assembly (or sub-assemblies). The bottom line is, there is no one rule that covers every kit--you have to figure that out for yourself, and sometimes even make it up as you go along.
 
It completely depends on the type of model, really.

For instance, the Falcon has no real interior detail. So, you paint the little cocpit, after you assemble it, build the rest of the kit and then paint the whole thing.

An X-Wing or TIE fighter, has a bit more involved interior, so, you asemble the cockpit, paint it, build the rest of the kit and then paint the remainder.

I build mostly aircraft, but I do dabble in armor, as well.

When building aircraft, you need to start on the inside first, painting as you build, otherwise, there's no way you'll be able to go back and paint, later.

Here's some example:

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It would be absolutely impossible to paint those, after assembly.

But with armor, I leave off the small details, that would be painted a different color (tracks, tools and stowage) and paint them off-vehicle and attach afterwards.

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It would be a royal pain to paint the base vehicle, then have to go back and paint, detail and weather things like the tools and stowage and especially things like missiles.

Figuring these things out, comes with years of practice. It's a lot of trial and error, before you start to figure out the process.

The next dilema that comes is: "do I paint this part while it's still on the sprue, or do I cut and clean it, first?". Leaving it on the sprue, makes it easier to handle, but then you have to clean up the sprue stub and touch-up the paint. Clipping it and cleaning it, makes it easier to paint in one shot, but harder to handle, while painting.

It's all trial and error.

-Fred
 
Yep, no good answer. Trial and error for each different model. I find on some model kits that painting first and sanding off the paint where the part will be glued is the best option. There are some kits where you can't paint certain details after assembly. There is just no room to get the airbrush or a paintbrush.
 
Wow, thanks all.
Now, to be specific... For the FM X Wing... has anyone here assembled the entire kit (except cockpit) and then painted it? How did that go?
 
it really depends on how you can get to the parts. Also, a lot of models have seams that need to be puttied and sanded.

The insides of the x-wings wings might be a bit difficult to do them afterwards...so I would do them first.
 
When I did my FM X-Wing, I painted the interior of the wings before I assembled the fuselage- I just kept the wings closed and painted the rest like a regular aircraft model.

BTW, Gigatron- those are some lovely kits you've got there!
 
Nice job Fred. I agree with the "it depends on the kit" some are best built up as sub assemblies, then added later. An example is for a German Nashorn (tank). I did the interior, masked it and later painted the exterior.
 
@ Gigatron:

Beautiful models you got there! Superb paintjob and finish!

And top notch images also! (y)thumbsup
 
Yes some people have already mentioned it depends on the kit, they are all
different and you just have to kind of roll with the punches each one
sends your way!:lol:thumbsup

Here is a small speeder I am scratching the heat sink
bank i am trying to keep modular so it can be painted
seperately. it's still rough not all the fins are shaped and
they are not glued either.
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Here is another example of a SS A-wing i built the engines are very large,
it would have been impossible to paint around them, and make a clean going
of it. So I built it modular so it coud be attached to the model with screws and wing nuts after it was painted.I was able to use the same screws and wing nuts to mount it horizontily while painting away from the main model.
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So you look at what you want to accomplish and go out
and find the best way to do it! A large part of model building
is problem solving!:thumbsup
 
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