I have missed the last few days of this thread and it has descended rather low very quickly.
Who are those 3 sources? If Brian was having a 'private' interest list it couldn't have been that private if 3 people told you about it. This would make these people untrustworthy. If it was a private list I am sure they must have agreed to secrecy which would also make them liars.
Name them please we do not need people like them in our community.
Surely you wouldn't have anything to do with such people?
If there was a private interest list did it not occur to you Gino that you maybe should respect that privacy and not post it up on a public forum?
Chris
Very well said Chris and if I may here's my two cents.
This is the only comment I will make in this thread.
After reading though all of this, one thing is very clear. We are at a stalemate. Gino made a comment about no new helmets for ROTJ, Brian Muir comes forward with a casting stating it was taken at the time of ROTJ from ROTJ molds. At this point it is irrelevant who you believe. If Brian Muir was planning a run, Gino's comments would conceiveably have destroyed any chance of that happening or at least brought a question mark to those involved. What is odd though is that Gino had made his comments reference no new helmets for ROTJ well before Brian Muir even showed off his helmet, so my guess is that if there was a run planned those people would have already known Gino's stance on the matter and didn't care so Gino pointing it out now would have had, I would imagine, very little impact to those involved.
So then you have to question Gino's motives for doing what he did. Ok so he came forward with info that there was a planned run and that Brian Muir was fabricating the info on the helmet to bolster it's price and sales. Ok, so let's say for the sake of argument that Gino was genuinely concerned about the community. Yes, I know it sounds crazy that he would care about anyone else, but hypothetically speaking let's say he did it so that no one would be taken by Brian Muir. Which again, I point out that Gino's info had already been said way before Brian showed off his helmet and I'm going to assume that those in the planned run would have been somewhat knowledgeable about Gino and what his stance is on vader related info. Gino makes a claim about ROTJ helmets he says is true and Brian Muir makes a statement about where his helmet came from which he believes to be true. Again, a stalemate. Who's to say they both aren't right? If each believes what was told to them, then it's up to us as members to believe one or the other. They can both be wrong or they can both be right or one is right and the other wrong. Brian makes a claim that contradicts Gino's, Gino comes out and says it's fabricated so that you can make a quick buck and I have 3 sources that verified this. Simple enough, but here's where I have a problem with it. Hypothetically, if a run was planned "privately" then that means that the people on the list were sworn to secercy. They were approached by whatever means, told about a run and they were trusted to keep their mouths shut about it. Gino states that not 1, not 2, but 3 people came and told him. Hmmm, that seems very suspicious to me, but we do have people in the community that are untrustworthy and dishonest. Time and time again, I log in only to find a "Hey, this guy recast my stuff" or "Hey this guy screwed me over" or "Hey this guy isn't responding to me after 1 year" etc and on and so on. Every single time I read about guys saying, man if I only knew or why doesn't the RPF have a sort of list that we can view or something to help us out. Then the thread is kept alive for weeks, months, years etc and you start to feel for the guys involved.
So here we have 3 people, according to Gino, who betrayed a trust, a confidence and went and told him about this private planned run AND Gino isn't going to give them up? I don't know about any of you and what do we have like 6,000 members now, but I sure as hell don't want to ever deal with anyone who would be untrustworthy and dishonest. A man has to have his word or he is nothing at all. This is bigger than Brian and Gino and certainly bigger than any ROTJ claims by either of them. These 3 guys/girls could cause a lot of problems. Imagine one of you going with them with private info, pics, runs etc only to later find out they betrayed you or worse.
So I ask the staff of the RPF who are friends with Gino, to have him come forward publicly with the names of these people. I don't always agree with the staff here, but I believe they have our best interests as members at heart. I would hope that Gino didn't just lie about this because Brian Muir's comments contradicted his own. I will give Gino the benefit of the doubt on this one and I hope he is telling the truth. If Gino doesn't come forward, then I hope the 3 people responsible for all of this have the balls to come forward and say they were the ones who broke the trust. Like I said, both Gino and Muir could be right about what they believe, so absent any proof on that, it's a stalemate. The trust issue amongst those 3 are a huge concern for me and I would hope the rest of the community, the RPF staff and Gino.
