Original Tie Pilot Chest Box ..Where are they?
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Davy Jones
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What about the ribs?
division 6
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Never noticed them before but can now see them in many pix including DS2 hanger. 
RBJ
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oh there were just a few folks ages ago when they were first pointed out (2007 or so) that denied their existence
Davy Jones
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geordietrooper
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my RS kit had the ribs but i found out the 501st did not like them so i think RS changed them to no ribs
i did get a non rib replacement thanks to RS
i did get a non rib replacement thanks to RS
I feel like the ribs are shallower than some people think. The DS2 hangar set photo has a nice, strong overhead light source that shows them up nicely. Is the one geordietrooper took pics of in the Archives the same as the exhibition box? That is, did more than one get the upper left square painted red? And, if so, when and why? It was never that way in any of the OT films that I've noticed. And I can barely see the ribs on the MoM box.
The relief-comparison that overhead lighting allows shows the blue square to be a good double the thickness of the ribs. Their shadow is far fainter. Also, Piero has them extend all the way to the edge, past the rockers, when it looks like they not only end at the rockers, but taper down to them. Those end "riblets" he has on his past the rockers aren't there on geordietrooper's other Archive pic from that angle, for starters. But in general, the ribbing is less pronounced/shadowed next to them, and there isn't even slight ribbing visible in that original Elstree dress-up photo RBJ started out the thread with, or the higher-res running-through-the-halls pic. Even if the contrast is such that one couldn't see the ribs, if they're of uniform thickness, you'd see them against the first rocker. And we know they're there on the ANH boxes (and why I think the same half-dozen were re-used for the ROTJ hangar scene, rather than new ones made) thanks to that TIE fighter cockpit set photo.
To my eye, the ribs are only in the middle third, between the pinstriping and the rockers, and go from maybe 1/16" at most down to the flat background right where the rockers mount. I'm loving this thread. I'd gotten frustrated at my own researching into the exact detailing and proportions of things because of the paucity of decent high-res, high-contrast pictures or footage. Those Archive pics help a ton, geordietrooper. Thanks for posting them.
The relief-comparison that overhead lighting allows shows the blue square to be a good double the thickness of the ribs. Their shadow is far fainter. Also, Piero has them extend all the way to the edge, past the rockers, when it looks like they not only end at the rockers, but taper down to them. Those end "riblets" he has on his past the rockers aren't there on geordietrooper's other Archive pic from that angle, for starters. But in general, the ribbing is less pronounced/shadowed next to them, and there isn't even slight ribbing visible in that original Elstree dress-up photo RBJ started out the thread with, or the higher-res running-through-the-halls pic. Even if the contrast is such that one couldn't see the ribs, if they're of uniform thickness, you'd see them against the first rocker. And we know they're there on the ANH boxes (and why I think the same half-dozen were re-used for the ROTJ hangar scene, rather than new ones made) thanks to that TIE fighter cockpit set photo.
To my eye, the ribs are only in the middle third, between the pinstriping and the rockers, and go from maybe 1/16" at most down to the flat background right where the rockers mount. I'm loving this thread. I'd gotten frustrated at my own researching into the exact detailing and proportions of things because of the paucity of decent high-res, high-contrast pictures or footage. Those Archive pics help a ton, geordietrooper. Thanks for posting them.
geordietrooper
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i should have said the archive pics are from years ago & not taken by me
tubachris85x
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Was there any consensus of what the cogs on the side panels were from?
Davy Jones
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The ribbing may have been a result of stacking and laminating the wood which the original buck was likely made of.
The ribs go all the way around but are less obvious depending on sharpness of vac pull, etc. They aren't uniform in how they show up more or less.
Keep in mind the box in the Ainsworth pics is put together with the top backwards from how most others appear. So you are seeing the back of the top part.
The ribs go all the way around but are less obvious depending on sharpness of vac pull, etc. They aren't uniform in how they show up more or less.
Keep in mind the box in the Ainsworth pics is put together with the top backwards from how most others appear. So you are seeing the back of the top part.
geordietrooper
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i only see the ribbing on one side/face & i think it was a deliberate feature
Davy Jones
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I suppose it could have been deliberate but i very much think that's unlikely.
Ribbing appears all the way around. That's not speculation.
Ribbing appears all the way around. That's not speculation.
geordietrooper
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i don't see the ribbing going round the box in any pic i posted
Davy Jones
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That's correct.
geordietrooper
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so it is speculation
Davy Jones
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Im not trying to fight you on this. I know for a fact, and am not speculating that the ribs go all the way around. I dont wish to get into why.so it is speculation
If you are so set in your opinion, thats fine. I am not able to prove it to you. Im not trying to be combative and I realize that i cant ask you to take my word for it without proof you can see.
But thats the facts. When I say it and that I'm 100 percent sure of it, that's just me trying to steer the conversation towards the facts.
geordietrooper
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well without 100% shareable visible proof then we shall have to agree to disagree on this one
tubachris85x
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Using the pic on the first page, it's my assessment that this may have been intentional as it is clearly a unique and defined shape placed onto the vacuum form buck. It does not appear to be present on any other part of the box, at least on this one or on others I've seen in reference. Honestly if I had to take a bet why this is there at all, it is that it was originally meant to be used as a design element that was ultimately scrapped in favor of what it looks like on film.
I've squared off the visible edges of this portion. It's just a rectangular block. Honestly if it wasn't intentional it means Ainsworth didn't really care about making the bucks smooth...
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