Obi-wan ANH saber clamp, set screws?
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franz bolo
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There was a hole with a piece of metal wire opposite the clamp side. This might have been a screw hole at one time.
I don't know how you know it's brass though because the only 2 pics we have seen are in black and white.
FB
I don't know how you know it's brass though because the only 2 pics we have seen are in black and white.
FB
lesternessman
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To both points, on the MR saber there are both wire and screws. There are two screws along the top of the clamp, one next to the activator and the other directly across from the screw on the opposite side, if the "graflex" script was there it would be right above and between the "f" and "l". The wires run along the bottom of the clamp, and there are two of those, one on the opposite side of the activator and directly across from it.
Here's a pic of a couple customs that illustrate the idea
and here is a dismantled MR clamp. The two little screws to the right are the screws you're asking about.
Here's a pic of a couple customs that illustrate the idea
and here is a dismantled MR clamp. The two little screws to the right are the screws you're asking about.
Yeah, but did MR get it right? I mean, in the black and white pics we have, we can see the wire on both sides, and the set screw next to the box, very well, but were the screw is on the other side of the clamp isn't really very clear.
As for the screws being brass, again, I'm just going by what MR has on there mini saber. Are they brass, or should they be something else?
And, what size should those screws be?
As for the screws being brass, again, I'm just going by what MR has on there mini saber. Are they brass, or should they be something else?
And, what size should those screws be?
franz bolo
Sr Member
I was checking again at my reference pics and did see what could be the other small screw. It's right where Lestermessnan said it would be.
MR might have taken creative freedom with the brass color. I've seen small screws likr that made of brass though.
FB
MR might have taken creative freedom with the brass color. I've seen small screws likr that made of brass though.
FB
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lesternessman
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I was checking again at my reference pics and did see what could be the other small screw. It's right where Lestermessnan said it would be.
MR might have taken creative freedom with the brass color. I've seen small screws like that made of brass though.
FB
I couldn't rattle off the size, they were the smallest brass wood screws I could find. I installed them on my first saber, then left them off the second, then I put them on the second when I sold the first and then went back and added them to a third hilt. Here's a few pics of my attempts...disregard the weathering, it has evolved
Roman, if you can get a hold of him might be able to shed some light on size, his sabers feature the screws too. James Kenobi has them on his too...
here's an old pic of Roman's, it shows the screw on one of his
I hope these help
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franz bolo
Sr Member
So how do you think the wire held the booster on? Did it wrap around the ring of holes on the booster nut?
Do you think they screwed the clamp into the grenade? It doesn't look like it would hold.
FB
Do you think they screwed the clamp into the grenade? It doesn't look like it would hold.
FB
lesternessman
Sr Member
not so sure, it's plausible the wires might have served two purposes; holding the clamp to the booster-acting as a reinforcment for the pre-existing arrangement between the parts- its been mentioned that it took a beating and was dropped around plenty. The wires might have also been used to keep the booster from spinning around. Perhaps the screws went in first, then production dropped it a few more times and they needed a different solution for that end of the clamp?
I think someone posted a pic not too long ago showing that the wires and screws were not always there. The saber originally had 2 washers. I'm not an expert, so perhaps someone else can chime in and confirm this.
franz bolo
Sr Member
Yes, that is true. Serafino posted the Tunisia photo. I bought the poster and you can see the saber pretty good.
I'll see if I can track it down.
Found it.
FB
I'll see if I can track it down.
Found it.
FB
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Ok, Ok. I've already read about all of this other stuff, in detail, ad-nozeum, in the thousands of other threads about this saber. I just had never heard about the other screw, and I just wanted to confirm the second screw, On the weathered version, before I drill the hole, and you all have done that quite well, thanks. 
Now for the tuff question. My set up has a steel clamp, and steel grenade. My dremel is one of the high powered ones, and I think it will make short work, of drilling the holes in the clamp, but there's no way it will make a dent in the grenade. So, how do I install the screws? Drill the holes in the clamp, file down the screws, and glue them in? etc.
suggestions?
Now for the tuff question. My set up has a steel clamp, and steel grenade. My dremel is one of the high powered ones, and I think it will make short work, of drilling the holes in the clamp, but there's no way it will make a dent in the grenade. So, how do I install the screws? Drill the holes in the clamp, file down the screws, and glue them in? etc.
suggestions?
franz bolo
Sr Member
I never noticed the 2nd screw till MR put out the mini. Lestermessnan did a great job on his and I'm sure he'll tell you how he did it.
Good Luck! I'm going for the Tunisia look!!
FB
Good Luck! I'm going for the Tunisia look!!
FB
lesternessman
Sr Member
Mine was an aluminum grenade, so I didn't have too many issues with it. However, I have tried to drill with a dremel through steel and it was none so fun. But, if you can't get into it then filing down the screws wouldn't be so bad. You'd have the form without the function.
On all the weathered Obi Sabers I've made, I just drill and tap a hole in the grenade and screw the screw right into the side of the grenade frag.
Right, but my grenade is thick, cold, hard, steel, and I got nothing that will drill, or tap that.
Jason
I have drilled and tapped real steel grenades, as well as aluminum ones.
Taps are made out of a steel harder then most so they will cut into steel. As a result, they are more brittle and prone to breaking if forced or not oiled during use.
micromart sells the correct brass, slotted flat head screw as well as the correct drill bit and tap. It's a #1-32 I believe.
Find someone with a drill press, that's all you need.....and a steady hand.
Taps are made out of a steel harder then most so they will cut into steel. As a result, they are more brittle and prone to breaking if forced or not oiled during use.
micromart sells the correct brass, slotted flat head screw as well as the correct drill bit and tap. It's a #1-32 I believe.
Find someone with a drill press, that's all you need.....and a steady hand.
SaberFreak
Sr Member
Like James Kenobu said, to drill and tap steel you need something harder then steel, and they are available. A drill bit to drill a hole that small won't cost more then a few bucks, but the tap may cost a bit more.
And the trick in tapping steel is to take it REAL EASY, and LOTS of lubricant. Drip a drop of oil (engine oil will do fine) into the hole, turn the tap until it feels tight, then take the tap out, drip in another drop of oil, insert tap and turn until it feels tight, and repeat. Takes a while but this will prevent the grooves on the tap from being ground down real fast, or snap.
And the trick in tapping steel is to take it REAL EASY, and LOTS of lubricant. Drip a drop of oil (engine oil will do fine) into the hole, turn the tap until it feels tight, then take the tap out, drip in another drop of oil, insert tap and turn until it feels tight, and repeat. Takes a while but this will prevent the grooves on the tap from being ground down real fast, or snap.
Well, thanks, but every time I try the fancy stuff, it ALWAYS goes very bad for me. I don't have access to a drill press, nor do I have the room for one of my own. I just have the dremel, and that's about it, for power tools, plus I'm half blind. Every part of this project has gone wrong, again, and again. (I've been working on it, on, and off, since just before C III ) So, I'm just trying to get it done, as simply as possible. I'll be doing the wire, so I'm not worried about the clamp moving, so, the screws are mostly cosmetic on mine.
But, thanks for the tips, perhaps someday I'll be ready to do something like tha.
) So, I'm just trying to get it done, as simply as possible. I'll be doing the wire, so I'm not worried about the clamp moving, so, the screws are mostly cosmetic on mine. But, thanks for the tips, perhaps someday I'll be ready to do something like tha.
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