No Time To Die (James Bond 25)

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BTTUK

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I'm always fascinated when I hear this statement. Why does it take time to figure out whether you liked the movie or not? Isn't that simply an admission that you didn't enjoy it?
Ask a member of the military whether they enjoyed their training during it happening, or if they looked back and realise the fun they had etc.

To me it makes perfect sense that someone can get wrapped up in an event, where they recognise they are experiencing it, but can't or don't, at the same time process how they exactly feel about it.
 

masterjedi322

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I'm always fascinated when I hear this statement. Why does it take time to figure out whether you liked the movie or not? Isn't that simply an admission that you didn't enjoy it?
Not for me. There is so much information crammed into a ~2 hr movie, that it takes me a few days to process and reflect on everything. Do I have an initial reaction to the movie? Yes. Is that always how I feel about the movie after I have time to think about it? Not at all.
Ask a member of the military whether they enjoyed their training during it happening, or if they looked back and realise the fun they had etc.

To me it makes perfect sense that someone can get wrapped up in an event, where they recognise they are experiencing it, but can't or don't, at the same time process how they exactly feel about it.
Very well put!

Sean
 

Riceball

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A genuinely really fun movie that is perhaps a little long, but shot excellently with plenty of punch and wit. The new 007 is exactly what I’d thought she be, minus one thing: she’s just as arrogant, uncharismatic, and generally uninteresting to watch, but she’s also somewhat incompetent as a spy. I figured it would really be an “old dog can’t learn new tricks” kind of story with Bond constantly falling behind the new agent, but that wasn’t the case. I did not like her but she didn’t ruin the movie for me, as she really doesn’t feature that prominently to be honest. The music was great, I’m honestly surprised Hans Zimmer hadn’t done one of the Craig films already. Some of the Cuba music was particularly fun. Some of the comments from others here who have seen the movie make me laugh, mostly at the “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” of it all. Old Bond fans (tend to) complain that Craig is brutal, charmless, and too gritty—this film has a lot more wit, as well as some true-to-style cheesy Bond one-liners, and I already see people complaining the “film isn’t consistent with the real world/earlier Craig films”. Overall, it won’t convince anyone who’s already made up their mind on the film/Craig/modern action/etc., but if you go in with an open mind you’ll probably have a lot of fun.
Since Daniel Craig was listed as a producer on this film and he's been doing a fair bit of comedy since he first became Bond, I wonder if the slightly lighter tone and humor were at his request. Does Daniel Craig have a preference for more comedic roles and wanted his last outing as Bond to be just a touch bit lighter and not quite serious and brooding as in previous outings?

Regardless of whether the humor was Craig's idea or someone else's, I appreciated it. It was nothing too blatant or too outrageous but just enough to make it feel a little more like older Bond movies. I really appreciated the way Craig was able to deliver those lines so straight faced without even so much a twinkle in his eye, which, to me, made the humor work even better than if he had delivered those lines in a way that made you think that he (Bond) thought he was trying to be funny.

All in all, this has to be my favorite Daniel Craig Bond movie, this one had the right blend of action, romance, intrigue, and humor. It made Bond more human and gave him more depth than in previous movies. This might have even been my favorite Bond movie of all, but it's hard to say since I can't really remember much of any of the Bond movies to really say which was my favorite.
 

Treadwell

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I definitely could have done without the groaners, but I realize there is a long history of them in the franchise.

I felt the plot was far too convoluted ... and we seemed to jump from location to location willy-nilly.

There was no clear path through the story, we tumbled into each set piece and from there watched things go wrong. Constant confusing curve balls dragging James in a new direction. It felt like a scene couldn't end without a twist.

Isn't that every Bond film ever?
 

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Psab keel

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I literally just saw the trailer for 355 and thought well at least it's trying to be it's own thing within the spy thriller genre. Got to give it props for that.
 

PoopaPapaPalps

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I caught a late showing tonight with some friends and I've seen all the Bond films that's come out since I was old enough to know what was going on when he came back in the 90's with GoldenEye.

I'm glad to say that this era of Craig is over. Nothing malicious about it; I was just never crazy about the general tone and direction of these films. Casino Royale gets a lot of slack but I saw what it was wanting to do in that entry. It gets the benefit of the doubt because that was, and has since proven to be, the only film of Craig's Bond that was actually any fun. All the films since have been soulless, over-written, needless melodramas that slowly wrung more and more fun out of the Bond films as they progressed, only giving hints of what it could be dispersed throughout each entry if it weren't bogged down by ideas of what people thought it needed to be for "modern" audiences.

I'm glad to see Craig have some fun in this movie since I haven't seen any of that enthusiasm since Casino Royale. Unfortunately, that was all about the fun there was in this film. All in all, I'm glad this time of Bond is done. These films weren't my cup of tea to begin with, so I'm not all that sore about it going out like it does or how it was handled. It was just fine. It had one goal in mind to accomplish and it was just to give an exit to Craig---that's it. Mission accomplished. I'm more interested in what's going to happen with the next one.

To anyone wondering what and how are they're gonna follow this film---Here's an answer to how to make Bond films from here on out: Don't follow these films. Don't even acknowledge them. Just pick up the slack and make fun stand-alone pictures again. You can make dramatic and fun without being over-wrought and soulless. They've done it a number of times already. Don't paint yourself into a corner like the Craig films did immediately after Casino Royale. That's the lesson to be learned from all of this.

With any hope, we can all finally hear the Bond theme in its full entirety in a film! That's one thing that drove me nuts in No Time to Die; how they just cut and parse out the Bond theme in the sparse sequences when he's doing "Bond" level stuff. It drove me up the wall.
 
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teragon

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Been a while since I saw it now, but I still can’t swallow the ending. Bond just doesn’t die, and especially Craig’s Bond, who’s a pretty decent, selfless guy actually, deserved a happy ending with his family IMO. The underused Safin I can overlook but not the ending.

I still liked the much more humane take of Craig era, he really nailed the mask of cool, collected and suave exterior but you could see everything boiling inside behind his eyes.

But now that it is over, I’m curious to see what’s next. I’m hoping for something between Goldeneye, Casino Royal and Dr No in terms of tone, not too over the top, not too serious neither and with a Bond that is not a caricature neither, yet maybe lighter that Craig. Dr No’s Connery, but less cold.
 

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