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Chizmo3687
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Re: Nike Mag V2 mod discussion and builds
That's what I am saying but there's a lot of people who sell knock off stud such as I phone chargers and other sneakers who gives the right for eBay to take off sneakers if there stated replicas its really for the average person to enjoy and cherish something they can afford cause in reality can you pay 6.000 for a pair of sneakers and if they get a scratch on them you flip out cause of the price we all should be grateful of the knock offs and ones you guys made cause we are the average people.
That's what I am saying but there's a lot of people who sell knock off stud such as I phone chargers and other sneakers who gives the right for eBay to take off sneakers if there stated replicas its really for the average person to enjoy and cherish something they can afford cause in reality can you pay 6.000 for a pair of sneakers and if they get a scratch on them you flip out cause of the price we all should be grateful of the knock offs and ones you guys made cause we are the average people.
DL4567
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airair
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hi thanks
can i ask how you got the switch cable wire out from the back ?
on mine it seems they are glued in like a bugger.
i tried pulling them out, and they wouldn't budge.
Airair I hope this picture helps, as you can see a section of rubber top and bottom has been taken away.
Basically you need a xacto knife, pliers and dremel to achieve that much more space in the sole.
3v system ftw
hi thanks
can i ask how you got the switch cable wire out from the back ?
on mine it seems they are glued in like a bugger.
i tried pulling them out, and they wouldn't budge.
airair
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while we are on 3v inverters.
what are the options for 3v Rechargeable batteries other than digicam and ps3 batteries?
for example, whats the highest coin cell rechargeable battery mah?
and also, what is the highest mah 3v battery is that is non rechargeable?
im looking at all options, both rechargeable and non rechargeable methods.
If a battery is reasonably cheap yet can last 4 or 5 hours, then replacing it wouldn't be too big of an issue.
Obviously, rechargeable is better, but i'm a bit wary at the moment of having a big ps3 battery under my foot!!
while we are on 3v inverters.
what are the options for 3v Rechargeable batteries other than digicam and ps3 batteries?
for example, whats the highest coin cell rechargeable battery mah?
and also, what is the highest mah 3v battery is that is non rechargeable?
im looking at all options, both rechargeable and non rechargeable methods.
If a battery is reasonably cheap yet can last 4 or 5 hours, then replacing it wouldn't be too big of an issue.
Obviously, rechargeable is better, but i'm a bit wary at the moment of having a big ps3 battery under my foot!!
Taff83
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Airair - Get the 750mah ones from eBay and use rechargeable dc output, it saves you buying batteries and taking them in and out of the sole all the time.
Use a thin metal rod(even try a coat hanger although I didn't) and Sellotape your +/- cable to it, make a small cut at the bottom on the inside of the shoe then just feed it all the way down, enter through where the v2 switch is and you should be able to pull the cables out, then just hide cables under insole and cardboard piece.
You will improvise as you go along lol
Airair - Get the 750mah ones from eBay and use rechargeable dc output, it saves you buying batteries and taking them in and out of the sole all the time.
Use a thin metal rod(even try a coat hanger although I didn't) and Sellotape your +/- cable to it, make a small cut at the bottom on the inside of the shoe then just feed it all the way down, enter through where the v2 switch is and you should be able to pull the cables out, then just hide cables under insole and cardboard piece.
You will improvise as you go along lol
airair
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thanks,
edit: i just checked here, it seems that some have different mah. standard alkaline has 565mah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-volt_battery
Is it simply the mah which is dictating which battery to use?
im getting confused on how exactly the brightness of the EL is being done depending on the battery.
I mean a 3.7v PS3 battery which has 1800mah, do you think it will have the same brightness or less brightness than a 9v standard battery?
I'm trying to work out why a standard 3.7v coin cell (any type) which has maybe 250mah or maybe even 500mah, why does that fail to power up the EL Lights and LEDs in the circuit?
considering that a PS3 battery has the same voltage, but just more mah, shouldn't the brightness be the same, but obviously the circuit would die much quicker.
I guess i'm going to buy some various types of batteries and do some testing.
thanks,
edit: i just checked here, it seems that some have different mah. standard alkaline has 565mah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-volt_battery
Is it simply the mah which is dictating which battery to use?
im getting confused on how exactly the brightness of the EL is being done depending on the battery.
I mean a 3.7v PS3 battery which has 1800mah, do you think it will have the same brightness or less brightness than a 9v standard battery?
I'm trying to work out why a standard 3.7v coin cell (any type) which has maybe 250mah or maybe even 500mah, why does that fail to power up the EL Lights and LEDs in the circuit?
considering that a PS3 battery has the same voltage, but just more mah, shouldn't the brightness be the same, but obviously the circuit would die much quicker.
I guess i'm going to buy some various types of batteries and do some testing.
cavx
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Don't know if you could rate the light output of EL in watts, but if you did, watts = volts x amps or 3.7V x 1.8A = 6.66W and 9V x 0.565A = 5.08W, so about the same give or take. Maybe a side by side comparison would show one slight brighter.
I just think the 9V solution will be easier for those wanting a change out system instead of a hard wired rechargeable one.
Don't know if you could rate the light output of EL in watts, but if you did, watts = volts x amps or 3.7V x 1.8A = 6.66W and 9V x 0.565A = 5.08W, so about the same give or take. Maybe a side by side comparison would show one slight brighter.
I just think the 9V solution will be easier for those wanting a change out system instead of a hard wired rechargeable one.
airair
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not really to be honest
once you've opened these v2 shoes, there is virtually no space in that square hole in the sole to place a 9v battery let alone an inverter in there also.
You have to do some extensive drilling and cutting out to make a standard 9v battery fit, and further cutting to fit even a thin inverter.
I assumed everyone else had just easily placed the 9v inverter in and that it was a straight fit with enough space, yet nobody mentioned that they had cut out further the open space inside the sole.
For me, i'm not going to chop down into those soles whatsoever as the soles are already very thn as they are and any further cutting may weaken them. I'm simply going to place a battery/inverter setup that fits in that square hole.
So either way, whoever opens their shoes, its not an easy or straight forward fit for a 9v.
In fact, the 3v solution is easier, as the battery is likely to be flat!
anyways, im off to get some batteries of varying sizes and shapes, and to do some tests in how long they can last with a 3v inverter.
Ive thrown out the 9v solution, its not viable for me, especially on multiple pairs.
And after the ballache of opening these shoes apart, i cannot be bothered to cut into the soles!
not really to be honest
once you've opened these v2 shoes, there is virtually no space in that square hole in the sole to place a 9v battery let alone an inverter in there also.
You have to do some extensive drilling and cutting out to make a standard 9v battery fit, and further cutting to fit even a thin inverter.
I assumed everyone else had just easily placed the 9v inverter in and that it was a straight fit with enough space, yet nobody mentioned that they had cut out further the open space inside the sole.
For me, i'm not going to chop down into those soles whatsoever as the soles are already very thn as they are and any further cutting may weaken them. I'm simply going to place a battery/inverter setup that fits in that square hole.
So either way, whoever opens their shoes, its not an easy or straight forward fit for a 9v.
In fact, the 3v solution is easier, as the battery is likely to be flat!
anyways, im off to get some batteries of varying sizes and shapes, and to do some tests in how long they can last with a 3v inverter.
Ive thrown out the 9v solution, its not viable for me, especially on multiple pairs.
And after the ballache of opening these shoes apart, i cannot be bothered to cut into the soles!
DL4567
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I have a pretty firm grasp on most of the wiring for the 9v setup, but can you elaborate on how to do the bold above? I'm a complete dummy on that.
I have a pretty firm grasp on most of the wiring for the 9v setup, but can you elaborate on how to do the bold above? I'm a complete dummy on that.
kingtheydon
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The reason a coin cell might struggle is because they don't have enough amps to support the inrush current of an inverter.
The inverters I have been making and playing with pull anywhere from 110ma to 150ma PER inverter. Then add to that 100-200ma as for resistors (maybe more) and that's the reason you won't be able to power everything off a small capacity battery.
EL brightness cannot be measured in watts. Supply voltage to the inverter doesn't really matter. Its all to do with the AC frequency supplied to the EL panel by the inverter. A 3v inverter vs a 9v inverter will yield the same "brightness" of the panel. The only thing that will change is the current drawn from the inverter (possibly) when using a lower voltage one, due to the circuit having to work harder to generate the big AC voltage needed to light the lamp.
The reason a coin cell might struggle is because they don't have enough amps to support the inrush current of an inverter.
The inverters I have been making and playing with pull anywhere from 110ma to 150ma PER inverter. Then add to that 100-200ma as for resistors (maybe more) and that's the reason you won't be able to power everything off a small capacity battery.
EL brightness cannot be measured in watts. Supply voltage to the inverter doesn't really matter. Its all to do with the AC frequency supplied to the EL panel by the inverter. A 3v inverter vs a 9v inverter will yield the same "brightness" of the panel. The only thing that will change is the current drawn from the inverter (possibly) when using a lower voltage one, due to the circuit having to work harder to generate the big AC voltage needed to light the lamp.
kingtheydon
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I'll show some interesting, well for me!, comparison's in the next few days of inverters and how they operate on different voltages if its of any interest to people.
Never really looked into EL up till a month or so ago and since designing my own inverters to use have learnt quite a bit about them.
I'll show some interesting, well for me!, comparison's in the next few days of inverters and how they operate on different voltages if its of any interest to people.
Never really looked into EL up till a month or so ago and since designing my own inverters to use have learnt quite a bit about them.
airair
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so even a 1000mah coin cell wouldn't be strong enough to power the 3v inverter and the el cutouts with 12 leds i assume?
what other 3v high mah batteries could be used? both rechargeable or non rechargeable?
aside from the ps3/digcam batteries?
what about 2 x AA batteries as a non rechargeable option, would these be able to power a 3v circuit?
so even a 1000mah coin cell wouldn't be strong enough to power the 3v inverter and the el cutouts with 12 leds i assume?
what other 3v high mah batteries could be used? both rechargeable or non rechargeable?
aside from the ps3/digcam batteries?
what about 2 x AA batteries as a non rechargeable option, would these be able to power a 3v circuit?
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kingtheydon
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It would power it, well it should do, but A 1000mah battery can supply 1amp continuous for an hour.
So you draw one amp for an hour= dead, 500ma would be 2 hours and so on.
I can't tell you what the maximum current draw of a full circuit with 12 LEDs would be but a quick calculation would be 12 LEDs at 10ma = 120ma, plus around 140ma for n inverter to run a smallish piece for el so double that. Plus aff 50ma for some circuit leakage/other useage and your looking at 450-500ma for a full 3v circuit.
You would last around 2hours maybe less, but you could drop the ma of the LEDs to 5 IF it doesn't effect their brightness (that depends on the type and quality of the LEDs used). Could probably drop that to just under 400ma.
That's maximum current draw. You could probably use 1 inverter to light both the Nike logo and the sole el. The downside to that is you would have a rather long wire run and the capacitance of those extra wires COULD effect the inverter (as an inverter is designed to run a panel for xxx by xxx size and an EL panel is basically a capacitor so increasing capacitance by adding wire could effect the colour and brightness. Thats COULD.
It's all trial and error really, well its not but what I'm saying is you can't just go "yeah this will be fine", you have to experiment a bit.
It would power it, well it should do, but A 1000mah battery can supply 1amp continuous for an hour.
So you draw one amp for an hour= dead, 500ma would be 2 hours and so on.
I can't tell you what the maximum current draw of a full circuit with 12 LEDs would be but a quick calculation would be 12 LEDs at 10ma = 120ma, plus around 140ma for n inverter to run a smallish piece for el so double that. Plus aff 50ma for some circuit leakage/other useage and your looking at 450-500ma for a full 3v circuit.
You would last around 2hours maybe less, but you could drop the ma of the LEDs to 5 IF it doesn't effect their brightness (that depends on the type and quality of the LEDs used). Could probably drop that to just under 400ma.
That's maximum current draw. You could probably use 1 inverter to light both the Nike logo and the sole el. The downside to that is you would have a rather long wire run and the capacitance of those extra wires COULD effect the inverter (as an inverter is designed to run a panel for xxx by xxx size and an EL panel is basically a capacitor so increasing capacitance by adding wire could effect the colour and brightness. Thats COULD.
It's all trial and error really, well its not but what I'm saying is you can't just go "yeah this will be fine", you have to experiment a bit.
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airair
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well im back to square one.
im looking for some 3.7v or 3v batteries which are safe to use, and already have connector pins on them.
for example, the ps3 controller batteries come pre soldered with wires.
im not sure how safe it is to solder onto digicam batteries.
well im back to square one.
im looking for some 3.7v or 3v batteries which are safe to use, and already have connector pins on them.
for example, the ps3 controller batteries come pre soldered with wires.
im not sure how safe it is to solder onto digicam batteries.
Pinn
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Karin said my shoes were handled roughly in the mail by the new shipping guy they hired. Then said they spoke to him and solved the problem. No more shipping problem, yeahhhhh right. Claims the shoes were hand inspected before shipping. I told Karin there is no way the shoes would be that messed up from being handled wrong during shipping.
I've thrown freight off loading trucks across rooms. 95% of the stuff NEVER saw damage. And out of the 5% that did....it wasn't too noticeable. So I don't believe that crap. My shoe box looks fine. No way the shoes were damaged like that. Offered me a discount on another pair of shoes.
I'm like what the heck. 5% off a another pair of crap shoes will do me no good. Bait n switch tactic if you ask me.
Karin said my shoes were handled roughly in the mail by the new shipping guy they hired. Then said they spoke to him and solved the problem. No more shipping problem, yeahhhhh right. Claims the shoes were hand inspected before shipping. I told Karin there is no way the shoes would be that messed up from being handled wrong during shipping.
I've thrown freight off loading trucks across rooms. 95% of the stuff NEVER saw damage. And out of the 5% that did....it wasn't too noticeable. So I don't believe that crap. My shoe box looks fine. No way the shoes were damaged like that. Offered me a discount on another pair of shoes.
I'm like what the heck. 5% off a another pair of crap shoes will do me no good. Bait n switch tactic if you ask me.
kingtheydon
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Your avatar pic at the bottom of your posts is quite apt for your last statement!
Your avatar pic at the bottom of your posts is quite apt for your last statement!
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