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Honestly the MPs fit a little better. But nothing thick socks can't fix. They're about the size of my 6.5 steel toe Marine Corps boots but aren't as tight because they don't have regular laces.
Can i get a link to some good LEDs and resistors? With the 12v LEDs the lights arent all the same brightness. I've seen others have equally bright lights and want the same effect. I also decided to go the way of another member and use the stock holes in the sole with the EL behind it. I am horrible at working with rounded EL. I got blank spots all the time and its hard to position and glue down. Ill need a dremmel and some putty or something though to get the cut out shapes right.
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startrek9888
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sweet project
I'm not familiar with that type of acrylic paint.
You wouldn't want to put any adhesive down before the rubber dye, as it needs to be able to penetrate the rubber sole. Same with vinyl dye, which would probably work fine on the rubber soles but just not as good as the rubber dye.
When using plastic/vinyl/rubber paint, you sometimes need to use an adhesion promoter if the paint is applied on top of soft plastics, but that's not the case here.
For the teal splatters, I would go with acrylic urethane. It's notoriously sticky and flexible, so after using UV-stable rubber dye like Parasol's RUBBERBOND on the soles, I would get a small amount of this custom mixed at an auto paint supply store (acrylic urethane is the most common auto paint in use now) after selecting the best teal color from a chart, and apply splatters of that over the dyed rubber. Just make sure they don't thin it to sprayable viscosity as they normally would. Follow that with a UV-stable flexible clear spray from Parasol, SEM or other some other company and you should have a sole that looks good for years.
airair
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It seems like it.
I actually think the entire soles and heel and ankle piece may have been made with injected foam and not even rubber.
If you look at some of the screen used shoes. On some where the paint has peeled they are a yellow material with paint over the top.
On some of the screen used examples the paint has peeled off while in some pics you can see cracks in the heel and other places.
I actually think the entire soles and heel and ankle piece may have been made with injected foam and not even rubber.
If you look at some of the screen used shoes. On some where the paint has peeled they are a yellow material with paint over the top.
On some of the screen used examples the paint has peeled off while in some pics you can see cracks in the heel and other places.
airair
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I've seen a paint by a company called Vallejo which sells acrylic urethane paint in bottles. They are supposed to be for modelling pieces.
I wonder if this is similar to auto paints which are acrylic urethane.
Im getting some vinyl dye and vinyl spray to test them.
The rubberbond dye I haven't found a UK supplier yet.
The paint that i got for my last pair for the splatter seems really permanent. It was modeling paint and only came off when i used an exacto blade and it still left marks behind. Im not sure if it would work if you applied the light grey to the whole midsole though.
nitrox
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So today I went out and purchased my cutting tools, glues, and other items ready for modding my shoes. I also purchased some laminating sheet. I am going to used computer cut vinyl stickers for the strap "Nike" logo, these stickers will be placed on top of the EL sheet and then the lamination film will be placed over the top to keep everything neat and secure.
That's the plan anyway...
That's the plan anyway...
airair
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It sounds like you used enamel paint.
I used a bit of humbrol enamel paint, but it takes really long to dry. It does seem to sink into the rubber.
cavx
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Back in the late 1980's, early 1990's, NIKE (and REEBOK) used urethane for mid soles. It turned yellow after time and split and eventually crumbed. You can see evidence of this on some of the close ups of the screen used MAGs. The material was strong and light, but had a limited shelf life. The collar and mid-sole of my AIR PRESSURE were both made from this and eventually fell apart.
Then I will use enamel paint then. And i just recieved my primer and matte clear coat spray paint in the mail today. Still waiting on the plastidip and sandpaper though. I want them to be as nice as possible.
airair
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Yeah, they must have used the midsole urethane or eva foam or whatever its called, because as you say, they simply painted over the shoes with regular paint, hence the cracking and deterioration.
Its almost the same or similar foam that we got on the V1 soles, although those seem to be uv stable I think.
There seems to be a few different types of rubber they use in sneakers these days. I'm almost certain these V2 soles are a mixture of polyurethane and some other rubber.
They are fairly strong, yet quite flexible.
I have some cast parts in PT Flex 85 liquid casting rubber and they come out very stiff but still ever so slightly flexible, so I reckon these V2 soles are around 50 to 60 shore hardness from my estimate.
I wonder what shore hardness the real ones are? Jedifyfe did say in his comparison video that the real ones seem to be more spongy, so they could be even less in their shore hardness, kind of more foamy than rubbery.
At least we know, when it comes to casting anything, always get something thats UV stable!
Then you won't have to put up with yellowing soles!
I have just checked on a few of my pairs and the yellow is starting quite badly!
Just goes to show that these knockoff factories cut quality wherever possible!
airair
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For the splatter paint? or for the entire grey soles?
For just the grey soles, the best bet is Vinyl Dye which comes in a spray, or Vinyl Spray Paint.
I painted a small section of one pair of grey soles with humbrol enamel modelling paint (straight out of the tin) and whilst it did stick well, it didn't dry completely.
After a few days or so, i could still chip at the paint and it would come off, just bits of the thick top layer, but perhaps maybe because i didn't let it dry enough and i did too many coats without letting each one dry?
It could be better to thin out this enamel paint.
Maybe thinning it out slightly would give a better coat onto the rubber.
Since its oil based, it seems to have better adhesion to the rubber surface.
I think the Vinyl Dye however, adheres better to the rubber from what i've been told.
The cans of Vinyl Dye are expensive though, i've seen one seller on ebay selling "Leather restorer" which seems to be the same thing except in a jar.
I tried some Vinyl Spray paint yesterday on a small section (just one light coat) and it seems to stick very well to the grey rubber.
I reckon if i did a few coats, it would be perfect.
I'm going to get some dye though, and compare the two.
Vinyl Dye from all the information i've gathered and been told, seems like its the overall best solution to recolouring any soles. Its not going to chip or flake off, and so whether its on the grey soles or on the black soles, you can get a good finish.
Im gonna stick with enamel because I can get the exact shade of grey that i want. With any spray paint you basically settle for the closest color in most cases.
Is this primer tough enough to withstand wearing them or is it only for display?
Mine have worn pretty well with this primer, though it has cracked a bit.
airair
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I think it might be worth doing the vinyl dye or vinyl spray method in a light grey, then doing the splatter either with enamel or some form of acrylic with a hardener or varnish applied on top (like the angelus paints).
I've just sprayed one of the heel parts in vinyl spray paint. I scrubbed as much as i could with acetone to rough it up.
I got a can made from my local auto shop and took a small sample of a light grey colour i made myself with acrylic paint dried on some paper.
I showed this, and they gave me as close to the grey as possible.
This vinyl spray seems to stick much better than the Tamiya or other primers i've tried. It seems to be fairly scratch resistant and thats just with one dried coat.
I even tried the Tamiya and other primers again after scrubbing the grey rubber with acetone.
Still didn't stick too well. It seems like its easy to peel off or if you scratch it. For the bottom i guess it doesn't really matter, its more the sides that we can see that matter.
I'm going to try Angelus acrylic next, then some Vallejo acrylic urethane paints in small quantities, and a vinyl dye in a spray, and see what the differences are of each.
cavx
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Maybe a dumb idea, so just putting it out there, but has anyone done an experiment with nail polish for the splats? It comes in 100s of colours and once dry, needs acetone to remove it. It should stick to anything. The challenge is just finding a light grey paint that won't peel or crack first.
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