NIKE MAG Patterns

[cavx]

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I feel like an ass. I'm sorry I doubted you. You're doing the whole Mag community a favor and I'm judging it negatively. I apologize...again :lol I thank you for your service.

Thanks MitasTouch. Whilst some feedback might come across as negativity, it is actually good to see you are simply looking at this from another angle. Maybe you see something I've missed whilst I am too per-occupied on other aspects of the design.

Given the 'secrecy' around these shoes, the goal here is to make this DIY friendly and allow many (that have not been able to get these shoes before) to hopefully actually owning a pair. And whilst I have only made a few select items, I think you get more satisfaction building this stuff yourself than just purchasing it and why I have not simply put this in the too hard basket.

 

[MitasTouch]

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Are you worried about the mesh not being able to flex? It might feel stiff while walking.

 

[cavx]

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Are you worried about the mesh not being able to flex? It might feel stiff while walking.

At this stage, no. It feels fine in the test wears.

 

[cavx]

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Back on page 1 of this thread, I asked for some help and I am pleased to announce I got some from one the forum's most recognized MAG experts - cloneprops.

His input makes total sense to me and it is amazing how I missed point this with my work. As he told me, allot will depend on the material being used, but the point is, I have seemed to miss the needed width in the collar. The strange part is that on this page, I have told MitasTouch the very same thing :facepalm

So when I get the chance, I will be updating the main files to include the input from cloneprops. I thank you for taking time for helping on this project.

 

[MitasTouch]

Re: Nike mag patterns with Tutorial part 1 pg 1 post 7

Back on page 1 of this thread, I asked for some help and I am pleased to announce I got some from one the forum's most recognized MAG experts - cloneprops.

His input makes total sense to me and it is amazing how I missed point this with my work. As he told me, allot will depend on the material being used, but the point is, I have seemed to miss the needed width in the collar. The strange part is that on this page, I have told MitasTouch the very same thing :facepalm

So when I get the chance, I will be updating the main files to include the input from cloneprops. I thank you for taking time for helping on this project.

You told me what of the same thing? You kind of made things hard to understand.

 

[cavx]

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You told me what of the same thing? You kind of made things hard to understand.

In regards to the way straight lines curve or bend on a true 3D shape. I had completely missed the point on the collar and I've made several of these shoes now.

 

[MitasTouch]

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In regards to the way straight lines curve or bend on a true 3D shape. I had completely missed the point on the collar and I've made several of these shoes now.

Oh ok. How are the new patterns coming along? And what version is it? I lost count lol

 

[punisher]

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I completely forgot to keep up with your thread but dont think Im ignoring you! Ive been stalking you on facebook and talking to you instead! :lol

 

[cavx]

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Oh ok. How are the new patterns coming along? And what version is it? I lost count lol

Good. To include the revisions by cloneprops, I will need to extend the size of the collar and might as well change its shape to be more angular.

I stitched a 2nd mesh last night and discovered I now had two left feet :facepalm
At least I will have a really cool Christmas stocking

I quickly cut another and pinned it to be a right shoe. Just have not sewn it up yet.

I completely forgot to keep up with your thread but dont think Im ignoring you! Ive been stalking you on facebook and talking to you instead! :lol

You should get a web cam so we can chat on skype

 

[bigtrev503]

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Awesome work!!!

 

[cavx]

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Awesome work!!!

Thank you. It is still a work in progress

 

[cavx]

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OK I now have a wearable pair of white mesh MAGs.

Front

Back

I've played around with the revisions cloneprops has made, but not 100% sure how to integrate them into the design.

My pattern [MAG body] is made up of just three parts and their sized dictate how (if) the shoe will go together. The ONLY thing I can see that might work is a slight extension to the front of the collar. I can't really add anything to the back or it won't align with the innersole. I do want to change the shape of the profile of the collar to be more RD MAG accurate. Not a biggie, I don't think.

Anyway, I feel that I am yet another step closer to the desired end result.

 

[cavx]

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These latest revision of these patterns are almost done. The question is, do you guys want the collar to look the way I did mine or the more angular look?

Anyway, thought I'd share this...

I am actually building a working model of the power lacing shoes. I'm not sure how, where or even if I can mount a motor, so the goal for right now is to get the straps working the same as the FX shoe in that clip we all know so well.

If I can do this, I am going to see if I can a spindle for the cords to wind on and if that works, look at some form of motorization.

 

[MitasTouch]

Re: Nike mag patterns with Tutorial part 1 pg 1 post 7

These latest revision of these patterns are almost done. The question is, do you guys want the collar to look the way I did mine or the more angular look?

Which ever is more accurate

 

[cavx]

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Which ever is more accurate

I'll see if I can finish them off tomorrow and post both versions and you can decide which one you like better.

 

[MitasTouch]

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I'll see if I can finish them off tomorrow and post both versions and you can decide which one you like better.

Sounds like a plan. Keep up the good work. And just a quick question. What did you base the pattern for the midsole from? Did you use this?

 

[MitasTouch]

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How is you self lacing side project going?

 

[cavx]

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Sounds like a plan. Keep up the good work. And just a quick question. What did you base the pattern for the midsole from? Did you use this?

I did initially, then just worked off the V1 soles given that was the mid sole I was going to use. When I do the scratch build, I'll probably just go back to this image for the shape.

The image creates an optical illusion with the pyramid sole where on some images the pyramids appear to be negative (hollow) and others positive (stick out). They are negative on the actual shoe.

I have found a PVC mat and I used it as a mold when I made my own clear soles on the leather pair of MAGs. When you take a cast off this mat, you end up with a negative and that is correct ans what we want. The size of the bumps seem to be the right size as well. The side sections are different and that would require a different mold, however cloneprops appears to have done what I did and use the same pattern on both the base and the sizes and it looks great.

How is you self lacing side project going?

Sorry had stuff going on over the weekend, so got nothing done on these.

 

[MitasTouch]

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How are the patterns coming along? I'm sure they will be killer since you got help from cloneprops.

 

[cavx]

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How are the patterns coming along? I'm sure they will be killer since you got help from cloneprops.

The challenge I am having with this is that he modeled his patterns in 3D.

Mine are 2D that bend to create the 3D shape.

When I've done mine, I have used a real shoe as a 'last'. You can read more about this in my MAG thread where I covered one of the real shoes in masking tape, cut that off, laid that out flat on paper to give me the 2D pattern.

His recommendations are for more collar to counter for the width of the shoe. It looks from his drawing, that he has also drawn in more heel. I can see why he has suggested this, but from building all the physical models I have, the sole will not align with the upper if you change the length of the overall upper. The ONLY way I can see this working is to add length to the collar ONLY.

I had to alter the shape of the bottom to get the shoe to be wider at the toe box. It is an odd process and I did each change just 1/2" at a time. I am actually happy with how the uppers look and if someone wants to alter that to "make it more accurate", then so long as they don't alter the main part of the pattern, this should not affect how it goes together.

All this takes time and I didn't really get the chance to do anything on this today.