That actually sounds plausible.
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That actually sounds plausible.
Agreed. How awesome would that be! Definitely the thing to ask for. :thumbsup
Well said...:thumbsup
In a Moffat kind of way... :lol
Still though, interesting to see how that pans out as it's clearly the overarcing story.
greatwazoo42
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Thankee!
TheDoctor
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Dalek-pedia? WikiDalek?
Re: The Doctor "killing" Solomon - This is kind of foreshadowed in last season's Impossible Astronaut. The Doctor is making his speech to The Silence while River is pointing her gun at them. He says something about her being able to take a number of them out - "which I shouldn't like, but for some reason I do" (or something similar to that). I took it as just a flirt, but maybe it's a sign.
The 11th Doctor does seem to go back and fourth between "No Killing" and giving the order to kill The Silence throughout time.
Just another thought on another complaint. Lots of folks haven't liked the random companions that seem to have been just thrown together, but what if it isn't random?
I've been thinking about the past stories, post-"The Doctor's Wife", & realizing, just as she's always taken him" where" he needed to go, maybe she's also been making sure he had "who" he needed also.
I just think that the basic groundwork that was laid in that episode needs to filter how we as fans look at the show.
1- The TARDIS is telepathic
2- She can see the whole of Space & Time all at once, but more than what he can see
3- She knows much more of what the Doctor needs than he does
All this means She knew he'd need the Ponds, including Brian, a big game hunter, & Nefertiti. Not random at all.
I've been thinking about the past stories, post-"The Doctor's Wife", & realizing, just as she's always taken him" where" he needed to go, maybe she's also been making sure he had "who" he needed also.
I just think that the basic groundwork that was laid in that episode needs to filter how we as fans look at the show.
1- The TARDIS is telepathic
2- She can see the whole of Space & Time all at once, but more than what he can see
3- She knows much more of what the Doctor needs than he does
All this means She knew he'd need the Ponds, including Brian, a big game hunter, & Nefertiti. Not random at all.
But again, He didn't give the order. They did. He just "used" their own actions against them. Just as Solomon made his own predicament, The Doctor just let it play out.
I think you might be reading a bit too much into "The Doctor's Wife". From what I understand it was just Neil's love letter to the series, he's not involved in any huge story arc.
What says Solomon was human?
Is it weird that every time I saw Solomon, THIS is what I thought of? (Ignore the crappy Photoshop job)
NOTE: I don't think they'd ever do this, but each time he appeared on screen, I couldn't help but thinking he'd be a fairly good 1st doctor if we ever got a modern multi-Doctor story.
-Nick
Well, I'd agree if Idris was simply a one-off, throw away character, but she was a physical manifestation of the TARDIS. We got a lot of things in the episode that gave info about the history between the 2 of them. We have no reason to believe that anything that was said wasn't canon.
The TARDIS was the 1st "character" we ever saw in the series, but TDW was the 1st time we've ever been able to hear her side of the last 700 years. Again, as you say, I may be reading too much into it, but to me, the story has enhanced so many of the past stories where he ended up in a random place for no apparent reason.
Oh it's certainly canon. Nothing in any episode isn't (although much can be interpreted many ways). Neil is a brilliant writer and WANTED that story to enhance previous and future ones. That's his love letter.
If Neil were the story editor I'd say you're bang on. Moffat? Not so much. I highly doubt there's some arc here involving the TARDIS as Idris.
Not too shabby. Can't say I made the connection but he does look the part.
TheOtherGuy
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Either way on how this all goes down. I want to see more Weeping Angels!
Hmmm I didn't think about that. Good point.
Possible. But it would still recognize him no? A time traveller that has shown up at the end of time, the beginning of time, and everywhere in between?
Who says it's not the Doctor before his death?
Dave Ward
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Well, I think that was the thing though, that the lake silence stuff, he essentially had to "trick time" itself into believing he was dead. Doesn't make an awful lot of sense, I know. You just have to sort of make it work.
For instance, Gallifrey was supposed to exist waaay back in the history of the universe, and when the doctor is pottering round in the classic series, people would know about the timelords. But in the new series, everyone knows that the timelords all died, even though, again, it all happened in the past. If that makes sense. *head explodes*
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