New Doctor Who Series Discussion *Spoilers*

[Showtunes]

Here's The Tenth:

On a different planet:
2-9: The Impossible Planet
2-10: The Satan Pit
4-4: Planet of the Ood
4-7: The Doctor's Daughter
4-9: Silence in the Library
4-10: Forest of the Dead
4-11: Midnight
4-16: Planet of the Dead
4-17: The Waters of Mars

On an alien spaceship:
1-13: The Parting of the Ways (obviously only the last minute)
2-5: The Girl in the Fireplace (also on earth)
4-1: Voyage of the Damned (arguably human)

On a human spaceship:
3-8: 42

On non-modern day earth
2-2: New Earth
2-3: Tooth and Claw
2-5: The Girl in the Fireplace (which was also on a alien spaceship)
2-8: The Idiot's Lantern
3-3: The Shakespeare Code
3-4: Gridlock
3-5: Daleks in Manhattan
3-6: Evolution of the Daleks
3-9: Human Nature
3-10: Family of Blood
3-11: Blink (also in modern day)
3-12: Utopia
4-3: The Fires of Pompeii
4-8: The Unicorn and the Wasp
4-15: The Next Doctor

On modern day earth:
2-1: The Christmas invasion
2-4: School Reunion
2-6: Rise of the Cyberman (but an alternative universe)
2-7: Age of Steel (^^^)
2-11: Love and Monsters
2-12: Fear Her
2-13: Army of Ghosts
2-14: Doomsday
3-1: The Runaway Bride
3-2: Smith and Jones
3-7: The Lazarus Experiment
3-11: Blink (also in the past)
3-13: Sound of Drums
3-14: Last of the Time Lords
4-2: Partners in Crime
4-5: The Sontaran Stratagem
4-6: The Poison Sky
4-12: Turn Left
4-13: The Stolen Earth (although there was time elsewhere)
4-14: Journey's End (^^^)
4-18: The End of Time part 1
4-19: The End of Time part 2

 

[d_jedi1]

Ya. But at least he has the ability to travel and uses the TARDIS. Doctor Who during the Pertwee years was just a scientist. Killed it for me.

Not 100% true BUT it is mostly true. Certainly up until "Inferno" (after which, he had some limited traveling capabilities) and eventually "The Three Doctors" (where the timelords gave it ALL back to him).

 

[Force Commander]

The lack of travel in space and time is what kills it for me on the Pertwee years as well. I suppose that is why I like his last episodes the best. I was also disturbed with how he treated number 2 on The Three Doctors.

 

[d_jedi1]

Well, to be fair, I think I recall it having largely to do with budget. (The lack of travel that is.)
I agree about how the Doctors treated one another in both The Three Doctors AND in The Five Doctors.
I guess it's more of a thing where they had difficulty writing for the same person interacting with a younger/older version of themselves so they wrote it as two different people. :/

 

[Force Commander]

I understand it is a real world budget issue, it just made for annoying episodes.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Not 100% true BUT it is mostly true. Certainly up until "Inferno" (after which, he had some limited traveling capabilities) and eventually "The Three Doctors" (where the timelords gave it ALL back to him).

Yep. But the first couple years were barren of any travel.

Yes it was a budget thing but man... Really hurt the series for me.

 

[greatwazoo42]

Yep. But the first couple years were barren of any travel.

Yes it was a budget thing but man... Really hurt the series for me.

See, for me it was the opposite effect. By having the Doctor, a human looking alien, trapped and coping on Earth if made him more approachable to me. I was better able to see myself through his frustrations and his degree of separation from everyone around him. The fact that I was in my first years of high school at the time may have been a contributing factor.

One of the appealing things to many about the Doctor is he is the man apart. He is alone in the crowd and strives to do what he can and exceed where he can. He really is a role model for everyone that feels like they are not part of the flock around them and want to strive anyway.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

I see that. But for me it was a return to grumpy old man Doctor. Approachable isn't the word I'd use for Pertwee's rendition of the character! :lol

There are parts of 3's tenure that I do like very much. He's certainly not a "bad" Doctor. I just like my Doctor better when he's traveling.

 

[greatwazoo42]

grumpy old man Doctor.

Tenth Doctor: You know, I love being you. Back when I first started at the very beginning, I was always trying to be old and grumpy and important like you do when you're young, and then I was you. And I was all dashing about and playing cricket and my voice going all squeaky when I shout and I still do that! The voice thing, I got that from you! Oh!
[shows trainers]
Tenth Doctor: And the trainers and...
[puts on glasses]
Tenth Doctor: Snap. Because you know what, Doctor? You were my Doctor.
Fifth Doctor: To days to come.
Tenth Doctor: All my love to long ago.
[the fifth Doctor fades away]

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Tenth Doctor: You know, I love being you. Back when I first started at the very beginning, I was always trying to be old and grumpy and important like you do when you're young, and then I was you. And I was all dashing about and playing cricket and my voice going all squeaky when I shout and I still do that! The voice thing, I got that from you! Oh!
[shows trainers]
Tenth Doctor: And the trainers and...
[puts on glasses]
Tenth Doctor: Snap. Because you know what, Doctor? You were my Doctor.
Fifth Doctor: To days to come.
Tenth Doctor: All my love to long ago.
[the fifth Doctor fades away]

thumbsup

Too true! But to be fair #2 and #4 weren't grumpy.

 

[Riceball]

I think that there's some inconsistency with the Doctor's age. I just finished rewatching "The End of Time"(?), the last Tenant episode, and he told Donna's grandfather that he was 900 something years old. With that being the case I don't see how he could 1,000 something years old unless he took a long break after regenning into Matt Smith and another after losing the Ponds.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

I think that there's some inconsistency with the Doctor's age.

Understatement of the thread... :lol

 

[DuneMuadDib]

I think that there's some inconsistency with the Doctor's age. I just finished rewatching "The End of Time"(?), the last Tenant episode, and he told Donna's grandfather that he was 900 something years old. With that being the case I don't see how he could 1,000 something years old unless he took a long break after regenning into Matt Smith and another after losing the Ponds.

He still claims to be 900ish during Eleven's first season. It's after the Ponds stop traveling with him after "God Complex" that he has about 200 years without them. It's fairly consistent since the restart, save for Nine claiming to be younger than Seven was.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

........................

 

[DuneMuadDib]

If I said it before I apologize, but I add 236 to whatever age he gives. Nine's line was "900 years of phone box travel..." which Rose took to be his age. It could be that he was saying how long since he first "borrowed" the TARDIS when he was 236 and he just rolled with her mistake out of vanity (since he's lied about his age before). Assuming that, Nine was 1136 (which doesn't conflict with earlier ages given) and makes the Doctor over 1,500 now.

Moffat's answer of he doesn't know because he's a time-traveler makes sense at first glance, but this is a guy who feels the movement of the Earth hurdling through space and seems to instinctively know when time's wrong as well as what is and isn't a fixed point in time. I don't buy that a guy who knows all that can't keep his own age straight.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

The regeneration from 7 to 8 wiped a chunk of his memory, even had him thinking he was half human for a while! :lol

I remember hearing someone say that in some expanded content it explained that it was a trick he played on the Master.

 

[DuneMuadDib]

Chameleon arch, yadda yadda yadda, "he certainly said that."

 

[AlexBC]

Maybe I missed something but who is the friend that brought Strax back from the dead?

 

[greatwazoo42]

I don't buy that a guy who knows all that can't keep his own age straight.

He probably can but isn't letting on what it actually is for a variety of possible reasons. You guys do realize that this who age question could just have been an exploit of the producers to keep us talking about the show. They do know how fans love to argue the finer points. :love

 

[Dave Ward]

I just watched the Eccleston interview where he says "if I told you, I'd have to kill you." Not convinced he's likely to come back, seeing the say he says it...