TheDoctor
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What about the 10th Doctor and Rose? Also the fourth doctor had a thing for Sarah Jane.
Yeah, pretty much all Earth Authorities are morons... so at least they got that right! =)
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What about the 10th Doctor and Rose? Also the fourth doctor had a thing for Sarah Jane.
Yeah, pretty much all Earth Authorities are morons... so at least they got that right! =)
10th Doctor and Rose was a bit much for my taste as well but in this case I'd say it was the fact that she saved him from himself. There was a whole story arc there where when he first met Rose he had done something that he could never forgive himself for and slowly she brought him back to his old self. With Amy she's just "the girl that waited". Not as much happening there.
For Sarah Jane the Doctor sent her off and didn't come back for her. Nothing was stopping him after he was done on Gallifrey from coming back so although there was a bit of sadness there (which there often is) he knew it was time to move on.
I dunno. They're not THAT bad! :lol
It's the same thing that completely took me out of TDKR. No way Gotham would be left like that for 6 months without something being done.
cboath
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Not to mention, he basically just threw her out saying no aliens allowed on galifrey. I 'could've' dealt with that had he not take lulu (who i just hated) a handful of episodes later. I think 4 other companions made it there afterwards as well. Made me wonder if there was bad blood somewhere so the showrunner just said 'fine, get out'. Has to be the worst companion send off there was.
Back to the present, I don't know that he has to have a real reason for not wanting to leave Amy anyhow. People get attached to different people for different reasons.
I think she left on her own accord. The "no aliens on Gallifrey" was just their excuse. I agree though, Lulu was on Gallifrey later that very season wasn't she?
Except it's beyond "not wanting to leave", he's pretty damn needy which bugs me. 900 years of travel you think he'd understand that there are more companions out there almost all of which in this new series he has a deep connection with... :rolleyes
Angelus Lupus
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Let's not forget that, after the Tardis-big-bang-universe-reset, Amy basically "remembered" The Doctor back into existence... and she's his mother-in-law
Two VERY dumb plot points...
Martha spent a year travelling an apocalyptic landscape telling stories about the Doctor so he could be resurrected and he didn't shed any tears when she left.
The doc just moves on. That's how it goes. If PO3 did anything right, it did explain why #11 hasn't been able to move on. Amy will have to be ripped from him.
Man, I still can't believe people don't like Leela. Loved her. She had one of the most moving companion goodbyes, in my opinion.
"I'll miss you too, savage" - gets me every time!
She and Sarah made such an impact on my childhood that I can see them in every woman I ever dated...and the one I married.
Man, I still can't believe people don't like Leela. Loved her. She had one of the most moving companion goodbyes, in my opinion.
"I'll miss you too, savage" - gets me every time!
She and Sarah made such an impact on my childhood that I can see them in every woman I ever dated...and the one I married.
But it didn't really explain it. Just "you're the first person this face saw"... That's a BS reason, it never held true in past.
She wasn't terrible but she was a very two dimensional character (like many classic companions unfortunately). You get a little tired of the Neanderthal thing.
He's a different doc. "it never held true in the past" just isn't applicable. For whatever reason (and I think they have explained it pretty well now) #11 is Doctor and Pond, Pond and Doctor...for 6 more days. 
He's a different doc. "it never held true in the past" just isn't applicable. For whatever reason (and I think they have explained it pretty well now) #11 is Doctor and Pond, Pond and Doctor...for 6 more days.
There's different personalities yes but the rules don't change entirely. It's just REALLY weak and lazy storytelling.
My problem isn't that he wants to be with them or that he's going to miss them. It's the needy Doctor I can't stand. He visits them what, every 2 years his time? Grow a pair Matt.
TheDoctor
Sr Member
I can't agree with it being Lazy writing/storytelling. They spent two and a half seasons setting it up, it's not a sudden thing. Also, the points about Amy remembering The Doctor and being his mother-in-law are EXCELLENT reasons for The Doctor to be attached.
It's the "first love" syndrome. There's something about Amy that just completes The Doctor (again, the same way Rose did for number 10).
The only thing that will be inexcusable is if The Doctor spends the next couple seasons pining over Amy. The new companion deserves a fresh start - and I hope they give it to her. Smith has exactly one episode to "get over" Amy, then she shouldn't be mentioned again.
I've said it before, but I'll say it again: Martha got robbed.
Completely disagree. Amy remembering the Doctor was a deus ex machina in the same way that Martha's revitalisation of the Doctor was. LAZY script writing in which the writer gets the character into such a mess that the only way out is for a ridiculously implausible conclusion. Moffatt is notorious for this.
They certainly didn't spend two and a half seasons setting this up at all. River as Amy's daughter was so poorly done that there's nearly no attachment there aside from the one episode where it's revealed and the relationship between Amy and the Doctor hasn't changed since the event so it's a moot point.
As for "first love" I still call BS. At no point prior to this has anything been established that would indicate that. As a matter of fact they went out of their way to show that he doesn't feel anything more for her than friendship. With Rose they crafted it very well, with Amy it's been haphazard.
If they really wanted to make this plausible they could go with a storyline that the Doctor feels he owes Amy and Rory for what they've been through, particularly Rory for his 2,000 years of centurion duty. "The girl and the boy that waited". It's always been their strongest motivation, not this "I saw you first" garbage.
cboath
Master Member
Could be guilt in there as well.
She got pregnant because of the constant proximity to the tardis and traveling with him.
The baby was taken from her and raised to kill the doctor
She finds out who the baby is after it's older than she and rory.
That all causes her not to be able to have more kids.
Rory died in the travels as well and was brought back with the restart of time, but still remembers waiting 2000 years.
Guilt could have a lot to do with it. He pops back in every year or two to make sure things are OK because he'll blame himself otherwise.
She got pregnant because of the constant proximity to the tardis and traveling with him.
The baby was taken from her and raised to kill the doctor
She finds out who the baby is after it's older than she and rory.
That all causes her not to be able to have more kids.
Rory died in the travels as well and was brought back with the restart of time, but still remembers waiting 2000 years.
Guilt could have a lot to do with it. He pops back in every year or two to make sure things are OK because he'll blame himself otherwise.
MUCH more plausible.
timelordjedi777
Sr Member
I would say that Rory had more to do with her getting pregnant than her proximity to the TARDIS. Now the Timelord baby on the other hand....
DuneMuadDib
Sr Member
Davies was worse. At least Moffat spent that two-parter building up the concept of Amy remembering (cough cough, Rory), so it felt like an extension of what had come before. With Davies it would have been just pulled out of his ass with no foreshadowing.
This is true. Don't get me wrong, God bless him for bringing Who back and making it so popular but he really needs to learn how to write a third act.
Birdie
Master Member
'Cos Moffat is so good at them :rolleyes
DuneMuadDib
Sr Member
Better than Davies.
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