My MR OPS arrived...

Originally posted by Gytheran@Feb 5 2006, 04:42 PM
You can't tell me that you spent $400 dollars solely for the plaque as all MR items come with a plaque.

What part of "paid for a package" don't you understand? :confused

How can you argue against AA for not delivering a product as originally promised, and come here and blast us for wanting what we paid for? :confused

Of course we'll either get over it or get a refund, but it doesn't make our position any less valid. We paid for a certain product and we did not and will not get it.
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If the only thing wrong with the SDS helmet had been the plaque then I wouldn't have had a problem with it. I guess it's just a differing opinion on what it is you think you paid for. The way I see it - did you receive a limited edition helmet? Yes. But you're missing the information that says it's limited. You will eventually receive this information but you disagree with the wording explaining how limited it is feeling that it's not what you paid for. I see it that MR did not guarantee you what number you would receive, only that it would be 1 of 750.
 
Originally posted by RKW@Feb 5 2006, 01:02 PM

If the only thing wrong with the SDS helmet had been the plaque then I wouldn't have had a problem with it. I guess it's just a differing opinion on what it is you think you paid for. The way I see it - did you recieve a limited edition helmet? Yes. But you're missing the information that says it's limited. You will eventually recieve this information but you disagree with the wording explaining how limited it is feeling that it's not what you paid for. I see it that MR did not guarantee you what number you would recieve, only that it would be 1 of 750.
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Yes, but the individually numbered plaque is part of the collectable itself... Like I stated in the other thread, the ones that actually got out with the right plaque will definetely be more sought after than the newer plaque version...

MR should then just supply us with the original version of the plaque without the stamped number, and let us stamp it ourselves....

They want to avoid people getting duplicate numbers???? The odds are, I'll never know if anyone has the same number as mine, so whats the problem???? They should state that its an issolated inncident and duplicate numbers may apper with this collectable, so then everyone's happy
 
Originally posted by allosaur176+Feb 5 2006, 05:08 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(allosaur176 @ Feb 5 2006, 05:08 PM)</div>
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If the only thing wrong with the SDS helmet had been the plaque then I wouldn't have had a problem with it. I guess it's just a differing opinion on what it is you think you paid for. The way I see it - did you recieve a limited edition helmet? Yes. But you're missing the information that says it's limited. You will eventually recieve this information but you disagree with the wording explaining how limited it is feeling that it's not what you paid for. I see it that MR did not guarantee you what number you would recieve, only that it would be 1 of 750.
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Yes, but the individually numbered plaque is part of the collectable itself... Like I stated in the other thread, the ones that actually got out with the right plaque will definetely be more sought after than the newer plaque version...

MR should then just supply us with the original version of the plaque without the stamped number, and let us stamp it ourselves....

They want to avoid people getting duplicate numbers???? The odds are, I'll never know if anyone has the same number as mine, so whats the problem???? They should state that its an issolated inncident and duplicate numbers may apper with this collectable, so then everyone's happy
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If all you want is a number then what is wrong with #750. At least be honest and say that you want the lowest number you can get because you think it will be worth more on the secondary market.
 
Originally posted by RKW@Feb 5 2006, 01:12 PM


If all you want is a number then what is wrong with #750. At least be honest and say that you want the lowest number you can get because you think it will be worth more on the secondary market.
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I would be happy with #750, but not so much as having "1 of 750", because then it wouldn't be individually numbered, get it now??
 
Originally posted by RKW@Feb 5 2006, 01:12 PM
At least be honest and say that you want the lowest number you can get because you think it will be worth more on the secondary market.
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You can be honest saying that, but thats not the case with me.. Its the fact of having a plaque with a number that nobody else has...... to make the collectable unique.
 
Originally posted by allosaur176+Feb 5 2006, 11:17 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(allosaur176 @ Feb 5 2006, 11:17 AM)</div>
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At least be honest and say that you want the lowest number you can get because you think it will be worth more on the secondary market.
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You can be honest saying that, but thats not the case with me.. Its the fact of having a plaque with a number that nobody else has...... to make the collectable unique.
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BINGO.
 
Originally posted by shortimer52@Feb 2 2006, 11:01 AM
Mine just came in like 5 mins ago and to my not so big suprise im mising the same stuff you are. But the sicker of the box said mine was 261. Guess ill be sending MR a e-mail.
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It's kind of whacky that mine had a plaque at 249, I feel bad yours didn't come.

Now I understand Joe's whining a little better, but I doubt that creating counterfiet plates is going to "solve" the issue. MR printing a plaque that says ___ of 750 also makes no sense. I'm willing to bet there would be DOZENS of helmets numbered 1 through 10.

I guess that MR has no clue about which box # went to which receiver, though as these are sold through dealers it should be resolvable. WORST case they should just require each buyers send "PROOF OF PURCHASE" (like cereal boxtops), cut out the box label with the Plaque number (undoctored) and they should send a replacement plaque with the CORRECT number. This would solve all the issues except for people who have already thrown out the box, and they can get the #750 plaques. This does add a cost to them but as part of 100% customer satisfaction it is the least a customer should expect, even customers that defend MR that they can do no wrong and then it happens to them :eek:.
 
Yes RKW, this is the main reason for a limited edition... Are unique items...

If I get MY plaque where my number appears... actually #239... Means that there is no other MR OPS #239 in the world ... Do you understand that ??? Is so difficult to understand for you ??? Helloooo anybody there ...

I dont want to sell my helmet ina future (in any case, that would be completly legal...), but I want what they sold me, and what I paid for... Is so hard for you to understand that ???

MR corked it up... NOT I ... What should I get something different to what I apid for and what they sold ???

It´s their problem...

You dont mind if you recieve a plaque which say: 1 of 750... ok that is you.. congratulation, go home and sleep in piece...

But I´m not happy with that stupid solution at all ... 1 week doing overwork thinkin on a solution ??? HEHEHEHEHAH .... What a "@#$%." of employeers they have ...

I know is stupid for us to spend all this time talking here, because they will do whatever they want... Nothing will change...

The only thing that can make them change their way they make theis bussiness is when they start to see that people like MYSLEF wont buy NO MORE MR stuff... THEN they will start thinking about customers ...





Originally posted by allosaur176+Feb 5 2006, 05:17 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(allosaur176 @ Feb 5 2006, 05:17 PM)</div>
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At least be honest and say that you want the lowest number you can get because you think it will be worth more on the secondary market.
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You can be honest saying that, but thats not the case with me.. Its the fact of having a plaque with a number that nobody else has...... to make the collectable unique.
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Jez's idea is the best I have heard.
The MR solution is practically unconscionable. Stating that it is not their fault is incorrect, they are responsible to their distributors and customers. It may not be under their control that these plaques were stolen along the line somehwere, but they certainly can control what happened after that. I do not think that people would necessarily mind if the number on the box matched the number of the plaque, under Jez's scenario. I for one do not keep the actual shipping boxes from MR.
I am posting a new thread aboiut a combination of these concerns and a theory.
 
Hello Everyone.

I see that there are still lots of questions so I am copying a post that was made on Rebelscum from our Star Wars SBU, Bryan. Hopefully this will address any further questions or concerns you might have.

Here is a summary of MR's resolution to this issue with the Special Ops Helmets. We know that there is no "perfect" solution, so there will be some who will accept this plan and there will be those who will not. Unfortunately, no matter what plan we determine to be the most sound, we will never please 100% of the people and we apolgize for this.

We understand that there are 2 issues, the plaque and then some QC issues with the painting, glue on the lense, etc.

1. 100% of the remaining helmets that are in our warehouse will be opened and inspected per our QC Spec. This includes the collateral envelope with the plaque and the QC issues with the painting, glue, etc. Any helmet that is determined to not meet our specifications will either be returned to the factory to be fixed or it will be destroyed. The total number of helmets must remain at 750 pieces.

2. The new plaque will not be indvidually numbered, it will say "Limited Edition of 750", or something similar to that.

3. If the helmet has the original numbered plaque, IT WILL BE REMOVED AND REPLACED with the new plaque. As you can see on e-bay, there is a perceived value to this original plaque. If we were to keep them included, there will be more out there and it would now make it more unfair to more people. When we issue a statement that states the "official" plaque is the new one, that may make them all the more valuable to some people. Currently, there are X number of people who have these original plaques. I say "X" because we do not know the exact number. And that is the maximum it will ever be. So, if you received a plaque, just consider yourselves one of the lucky ones, unless you want to send it back, which is really what we are requesting. But, obviously, that is strictly voluntary, since we cannot force you to send anything back.

4. It appears that people who are missing their plaque is actually missing the entire collateral envelope, which not only included the plaque, but the Certificate of Authenticty, Prop Story, Warranty information, etc. We will replace the entire envelope and its contents.

5. To address the reissuing of number plaques one last time. . .
a) We cannot reprint any nuumbered plaques since we do not know how many are actually missing and more importantly, we do not know which numbers are missing.
B) There are duplicate LABELS not duplicate plaques. This makes it impossible to determine who gets what numbered plaque.
c) In order to reprint the plaques with numbers we would have to track down every helmet out there. This would be impossible since, as many of you know, some helmets have changed hands several times already. And some may have been purchased by "walk ins" at an Authorized Retailer. Not everyone comes to these forums (Rebelscum, RPF, Sir Steve, etc) or even our website, so there would be no way to communicate with everyone. Just 1 duplicate plaque will not only compromise the value of your helmet, but it would also be a violation of our license with Lucasfilm.

6. We cannot place numbers in the helmet because if we were to get any requests for replacements, there would be no way to replace that helmet with the same number. We can only make 1 helmet with each unique number. So if there was a problem with your helmet, it would be impossible to replace it with the same number.

7. Everyone who has a helmet can get the new collateral envelope with the new plaque, prop story, Certificate of Authenticity, and product brochure. (The sales brochure was included with the original product, so please do not think that we are taking "advantage" of this situation by sending you advertising. Most people would want everything that was originally included.) This program even includes those who did not purchase their helmet from an Authorized Retailer, like e-bay, etc. The new collateral envelope and plaque will be available through your Authorized Retailer or through Master Replicas. Amy will inform you of this procedure once it is set up.
We our trying our best to expedite the printing of the new plaques and collateral. We will let everyone know the schedule to complete this program as soon as we can. Unfortunately, it is still the Chinese New Years holiday in Asia, so we have not been able to fully implement this program yet.

8. When we say the product is "oversold" that means that the orders for the helmets exceeds the edition size, in this case 750. So there is a "wait list" for cancellations from our Authorized Retailers.

9. If the above resolution is not satisfactory to you, please return your helmet to your Authorized Retailer for a full refund of your helmet INCLUDING shipping. We have instructed our Authorized Retailer to accept returns and issue refunds with no questions asked, and please accept our apology with our assurance that are doing everything in our power to prevent this from happening again.

10. If you did not purchase your helmet from an Authorized Retailer, unfortunately, for obvious reasons, we cannot refund your money, you will have to go back to the person/store that you purchased it from. However, as stated above, we will still supply you with the new collateral envelope and we will honor the warranty for any defects that you may have with your helmet.

We are now working with our internal QC department in Asia and the factories to determine how this happened. New systems and procdures will be implemented immediately to prevent this from happening again.

Once again, we apologize for this inconvenience.

Amy and I will not be answering or addressing any further questions that we feel has been answered before. However, please feel free to post any comments that you may still have, if you feel the need to. This is an open forum, and that is what we want it to remain to be.

However, we will still be reading your posts and if some one comes up with a relevant issue in regards to this helmet that has not been raised before, Amy and I will be glad to respond.

Thank you once again for your patience and understanding.
 
Originally posted by MRCUSTOMERCARE@Feb 5 2006, 01:03 PM
B) There are duplicate LABELS not duplicate plaques. This makes it impossible to determine who gets what numbered plaque.
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Now this doesn't make sense, but I remember how hard it was to resolve applying a Collector's Society coupon to an existing order, the cure for world disease may have been simpiler. Regardles, if each buyer sends "PROOF OF PURCHASE"cut out the box label with the Plaque number (undoctored) and MR should send a replacement plaque with the CORRECT number. Even IF there are duplicate labels, so be it, send the numbered plaque that matches what is mailed in. This would solve all the issues even if there are duplicates except for people who have already thrown out the box, and they can get the #750 plaques. How can this plan not be executed? Sure it will cost more than a simple run of same numbered plaques, but isn't that part of 100% customer satisfaction? Returning for a refund or the chance for a new helmet I would say is 50% customer satisfaction :(
 
Naaa guys... let it go man ...

There is nothing we can do, MR do whatever they want, even if they piss in our own faces...

The best thing we can do is spend our spare time in something better thatn this, because we have nothing to do here ... ... :(:(:(

One thing you can be sure, I wont buy no more from MR ... They have lost 1 customer here .
 
Originally posted by Benkenove@Feb 5 2006, 03:11 PM

One thing you can be sure, I wont buy no more from MR ...  They have lost 1 customer here .
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That is the most compelling argument why they NEED to strive for the customer satisfaction. Returning for refund is "love it or leave it" customer satisfaction. Some things need to be fixed.

I will be very disappointed if they don't fix it. What is said above is a bandaid for a sucking wound. Not a solution as it still ends in a mess.

The fact that I think the helmets are slightly undersized and the StarCorps wasn't a Starcorps didn't stop me from buying more because I knew even if it took 20 calls and 50 emails MR would come through. (StarWarsShop is not as good but I'm glad to see the authorized for return+shipping in the message for return of my second pseudo-StarCorps.) I also need to thank my dealer or someone in the chain on the SpecOps because the package was obviously opened & checked.

PLEASE MR FIX THIS. YOU C-A-N DO BETTER.
 
Don't hate me everyone, but I'm not a huge fan of the clones. HOWEVER, I'm really jealous of your new helmet. That helmet is amazing. I do like the clone wars cartoons which is what this helmet reminds me of...that and battlefront 2. Very nice purchase...
 
So looks like we are all SOL with the plate thing, all 750 of us.

So I have few questions for MR and hope it will be answered.

1. Why did all this happen? Will you tell us one day? Or do we need to go to the Freedom of Information Act of 1974 route?

2. Who is making your stuff in Asia? Any way we can get a name of the Co? ItÂ’s our right to know. Either way I donÂ’t want to buy anything made from them again, you have an obligation to us to inform us who is making your helmets.

3. How long do we have to return the helmets? 3 months? 3 years? What if I canÂ’t get what I paid for it? What if I cut it in half and send it back so you canÂ’t resale it? IÂ’m guessing your not counting on the crazy people. I wonÂ’t do that but still others might, never know.

4. So what do we get in return? What kind of comp? CanÂ’t tell me that I wasted 400 bones on a LE bucket thatÂ’s not really LE, waited almost a year, donÂ’t get a real helmet number out of this and not get a comp out of it. Put a bug in you head,,, maybe a 10 or 20 % off next purchase from MR with out a restriction. Sounds fair to me and im sure it sounds about the right price to all the other 750 people thatÂ’s not going to get what the expected. Not only that, BUT it sure would clean up MR image a lot. Showing that they really do care and are willing to make good on the (forever known) Clone bucket Huge Mistake, Clone Bucket SNAFU, Clone Bucket Joke and what not.



Is this not fair? Am I asking too much? If you paid 400 for some thing, any thing at all, donÂ’t care what it is. Could be as simple as an ink pen or as big as a car. Would you not want what you agreed to? If that agreement was not met would you not like some kind of comp? So we will not get out number plate as agreed, but what will we get in return? Another number plate that was not agreed on which you owe us any ways?

MR I think not, itÂ’s only fair to offer us something in return. I do not do this to get what I can out of this do to the fact that I will not be buying from MR until they earn my trust. But I do this because this is the right thing to do since we did not get what we paid for.

We paid for a good bucket, COA, number for the bucket, a timely matter for this to be made and other paper work. What did we get? A good bucket, COA is a no go, Number for the bucket is a no go, timely matter for this to be made is a no go, other paper work is a no go. So you got 1 out of 4, not good odds at all. Not good for a big business like your selfÂ’s, and if it gets out that what your offering right now is all you willing to offer for your mistakes. Then MR future is not going to go very well. This leaves a very large gap to be filled by another company that can deliver or at least came make up for what they have done.


So MR what say you? Can we get what we deserve? Can you not afford it? Can we get some comp? Ill post this on ever board until we get an answer.


Have to say that we all mush respect Amy in this all. SheÂ’s the only one what has really answered our questions even if its not what we wanted to hear. So thanks much to Amy.
 
YouÂ’re making a Clone bucket and lots of people are/were buying from you guys. Yet you fail to respond to the one message board. IÂ’m sure lots of people there would like an expiation as to the gaggle.
 
Originally posted by shortimer52@Feb 5 2006, 11:29 PM
Put a bug in you head,,,
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No, no... the bug goes in the helmet.

sorry, couldn't resist. :lol

Carry on....
 
Originally posted by shortimer52@Feb 5 2006, 11:29 PM
So looks like we are all SOL with the plate thing, all 750 of us.


Not to be rude, not to be a jerk, but if your that unhappy you need to take MR up on their refund offer, then you can walk away from it and not get wound up over it.

It is just a #, Life is too short to get an ulcer over it, thay was why I sold my Special OP's spot last year, I was tired of waiting, I moved on and I feel much better because of it.

Again not knocking you, you just need to move on.
Lynn
 
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