MR Rebel Blaster query

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by Sidewinder, Apr 29, 2006.

  1. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

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    Recently got an MR Rebel Blaster and after the initial wows I finally got through all the packaging and found it. :D Ya gotta hand it to em, MR sure know how to package a prop. :thumbsup Anyway that's by the by.
    I hefted the blaster in my hand and promptly gouged two lines down the back of my thumb. This was from the sharp corners on the little release lever that sits under the body in front of the buttcap. "ow" I thought "hang on, that doesn't happen on my converted Sterling" was my follow up thought.
    The real reason for this thread - off I go to compare the two and i'm surprised to find that the whole grip/trigger assembly is a full 2" further back on the MR than on a real Sterling.. :eek Is this right? :confused

    Simon.
     
  2. Corellianexports

    Corellianexports Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I wouldn't say 2"...more like 1" or 1.5".

    I just checked my real sterling against my real Rebel Blaster conversion and that's correct. That trigger assembly was moved back. It's one reason why I completely machined that center tube. The original prop was drastically changed, so it didn't make any sense to keep any of the original tube.
     
  3. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

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    Seriously I measured it against my uncut Sterling, its 2".

    Wow you learn something new everyday on 'ere.

    SAS
     
  4. Stormy320

    Stormy320 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    So - help me out. Does this mean the MR Blaster is inaccurate?
     
  5. RKW

    RKW Sr Member

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stormy320 @ Apr 29 2006, 07:45 PM) [snapback]1235551[/snapback]</div>
    No, it means they have defective Sterlings.
     
  6. GeneralMayhem

    GeneralMayhem Sr Member

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    "Defective Sterlings"?

    I'm kind of unfamiliar with the details of the original prop versus the MR version, so please elaborate.
     
  7. Treadwell

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    I think it was that way on the original prop. All the rebel blasters were resin--they hacked up a Sterling and rearranged things in the process of making the master.
     
  8. eltee

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    If they used a Sterling pistol, that may explain why the layout is a little different than the E-11 blaster, but 2 inches is more than a little.

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    It appears that the trigger assembly is farther back in relation to the feed/ejection ports, but it could just be the angle of the photos creating an optical illusion.

    Here's an ad photo of the MR

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    Here's a scan from my BAPTY catalog showing the original E11 blaster and a Sterling pistol. IMHO it looks as if the pistol trigger is set back a little more than on the full sized Sterling, but not by much.

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  9. lonepigeon

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    FYI - The Sterling Mk7 pistol was ruled out as the basis for the DH-17's because Sterling didn't release them until 1983- way too late to be used anywhere in the OT.

    The ANH DH-17 (and later the ESB) is a heavily modified Sterling casting. Very easy to move parts around on a resin gun. The trigger group was moved, the ejection port shape was changed, and the cocking lever and slot were completely removed.

    That Bapty ad is odd since the ROTJ Sterling in it is not even their work. Those were made by Stembridge.
    The photo is from Lucasfilm, but I guess whoever gave it to them didn't know the difference.
     
  10. Corellianexports

    Corellianexports Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Sidewinder,
    I'm sure you're MR measures at 2". What I mean is that the original Rebel Blaster is about 1.5" to 1". That's what my scale is coming up as.

    Is MR off? I have no idea.

    Eltee,
    I don't think that particular Sterling pistol was used. The magazine area is right over the trigger. The Rebel Blaster shows it much more forward, of the trigger. Without measuring, it looks like every thing matches a real Sterling, accept the grip was moved back. It could be that it was done to off set that muzzle or cone. It may have been heavier than the front section of a Sterling.
     
  11. lonepigeon

    lonepigeon Sr Member

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    I'm sure the MR is right since they actually had a real ANH casting to go from.
     
  12. eltee

    eltee Sr Member

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lonepigeon @ Apr 30 2006, 07:35 PM) [snapback]1236178[/snapback]</div>
    There is/was an alliance of sorts between Syd Stembridge and son and BAPTY (US). PM if you want details. That alliance worked on the Predator minigun and others. This catalog is of their rentals from a ways back, so they may have ended up w/the Sterling for rental purposes back then.
     
  13. Sidewinder

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    CE, apologies I misunderstood.

    LP - I think MR says that there's is based on the blank firer, how would it fire blanks with no magazine etc??

    SAS
     
  14. wizardofflight

    wizardofflight Well-Known Member

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    When I was working the drawings I came up with just over 1 9/16” difference between the ANH DH-17 and the Sterling. Here are may versions of the ANH and ROTJ DH-17s;

    Alan

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  15. Corellianexports

    Corellianexports Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Sidewinder,
    No need for apologies.

    Very nice blueprints.

    Just for grins, here's my own Rebel Blaster. It's has a few real, Sterling parts. The rest is machined aluminum:

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    I'm proud of this particular prop, because it took about a year off & on to do the research, then another year to do the actual build, with tooling. Definitely a much tougher job than the E11 counter part.
     
  16. wizardofflight

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    Thank you.

    That is a beautiful piece of work. Very nice..

    That is an interesting reference picture in the background of the first pic. Where is it from? If I may ask? and would it be possible to get a copy?

    Alan
     
  17. Luke Warmwater

    Luke Warmwater Well-Known Member

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    Pics of a casting from the real mold:

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  18. bwingpilot

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    Heres my version, I tried to be as authentic to the original as I could.

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  19. wizardofflight

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    Thanks, every pic helps.

    Alan
     
  20. Luke Warmwater

    Luke Warmwater Well-Known Member

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bwingpilot @ May 4 2006, 03:19 AM) [snapback]1238006[/snapback]</div>

    Your barrel isn't all droopy like the original. :D
     

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