MR Han Solo EE ANH blaster

[lonepigeon]

The whole reason that thread existed in the fist place was because of MR.
Remember it was MoffEaton who started it. Lucasfilm needed more convincing that the parts were there. In the end the decision was split among many involved (here, MR, LFL) so the compromise of removable sight pieces was made.

I still firmly believe my final conclusions in that thread. There's more than enough evidence to prove the antenna piece was there (one not two) but I believe where Gabe and I differ is how we would deal with it on a replica. I lean towards making it the way it was originally built with both antennas intact where as Gabe would rather leave it off completely even though 3/5th's of the assembly was still on the prop for most, if not all of filming (depending on when Chronicles pics were taken).

 

[MikeyX]

It's really great to see that your work is going towards the EE Gabe. I've read many of your incredibly informative posts for quite some time and it looks to me like they made a good choice.

Hopefully sale day will be when I' m at a computer and I can get an example of your work to add to my collection.

 

[DrMcoy]

Proprunner,

After a night of reflection, I want you to know I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade. I too well know the frustration/joy/elation at discovering the intricate/subtle accuracies of a prop.

I still wish MR would release a more affordable version of this piece as it is one of my favorites and I missed out on the first run, and it looks like the new one will cost a pretty penny.

Maybe they will someday release an accurate version according to your plans that is made of "lesser" materials -- say something for $150 to $250 range.

Best of luck to you and your continued pursuits of getting a replica you want.

 

[moffeaton]

Funny enough, I started the thread out of personal curiosity - I just wanted to know if the greeblies were there on the Han blaster, the way I was visualizing them when I was going over my Merr-Sonn parts. Never in a million years thought it'd become such an information-filled and passionate thread, but it was a really wonderful example of how we all come together and figure things out for the betterment of the hobby. Heck, I can even call Gabe a friend now, heh.

And I gotta say, that was a heady month - Han supressor, Obi gear, Obi "sink drain".... amazing stuff.

 

[lonepigeon]

Originally posted by moffeaton@Feb 24 2006, 07:30 PM
Funny enough, I started the thread out of personal curiosity

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Must've just been coincidence in the timing or just the start of the thread brought the subject up again at MR. I remember at the same time the thread started Goobic and SD were also asking about the parts again. I thought you had talked with SD and then started the thread.

 

[Prop Runner]

Thanks DrMcoy for your very reasonable sentiments. I too hope that MR will eventually offer a CE version of this and other blasters for the costumers among us. But where there are people like you who share that desire, there's an equally large if not larger group that would argue that a CE version would devalue their LE, SE, and EE, as we've seen with the sabers. If you think this is a contentious issue here, just spend some time at the Rebel Scum Prop board and wear your thickest skin... :rolleyes Bottom line, in trying to please all segments of the market, one segment will always feel slighted. :unsure

Mike: nice to feel appreciated.

Chris: where you and I DO agree is that were MR to add the antenna greeblies, they should idealize them and make them intact, centered, symmetrical, etc. These design decisions are always difficult, since various versions of the same hero prop can be seen (or assumed to have existed) at different points in the production: concentric barrel, off-center barrel; no disc on left hand side vs. intact disk on left hand side; windage knob pin at the 11 o'clock position or at the 7 o'clock position. And lets consider the scope bracket: parallel horizontal bar vs. inward facing horizontal bar; parallel horizontal bar vs. upward tilted horizontal bar. I could go on... Bottom line, "authentic" and "accurate" depend on one's point of view: "as built by" vs. "weathered" vs. "idealized" vs. "as seen on screen." I'm confident MR will make the most accurate and attractive blaster possible within financial and manufacturing constraints in order to keep it affordable. So nobody should expect blued steel, a focusing scope, a fully functional Mauser, or FX features.

Hey. Now THERE'S an idea for MR to consider: an FX blaster.

- Gabe

 

[Star Wars Man]

ya, have a reallly long azz clear tube with LED's and like have the blast go down it...that would be lame...he he

 

[TFrosst]

Originally posted by Prop Runner@Feb 24 2006, 09:43 PM
...where there are people like you who share that desire, there's an equally large if not larger group that would argue that a CE version would devalue their LE, SE, and EE, as we've seen with the sabers.  If you think this is a contentious issue here, just spend some time at the Rebel Scum Prop board and wear your thickest skin...  :rolleyes  Bottom line, in trying to please all segments of the market, one segment will always feel slighted.  :unsure


- Gabe

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Not to step on anyone's toes but I don't think any company has, at the top of their list, the resale value of their products once they leave their hands. They market them as collectible and limited, which they are, but they don't get any profits from re-sold merchandise. MR sees this and that's why they've decided to produce the CE line.

Obviously they're not going to announce that they have a Han Solo CE planned for next year or the year after as that would hinder sales of the EE. They're doing nothing wrong just running a business and trying to get the most for their license. I think they'll do everything to make the most money and I really do think that a year or two from now we'll see a CE of the Han blaster. People will get all upset and have their arms flailing and posting all these angry posts, but they'll still go out the next month and buy another LE or EE just because they want too and MR knows they will. MR is marketing all of their items as personal collectibles, not as investments for future gain.

As my first point states, MR does not state soemthing like "buy our saber/blaster and 1 month from now sell it and keep all the profits you made for yourself". Just like the Luke green FX saber. They saw how much money they were losing and they did something about it, the came out with more. It'll be the exact same thing with everything. I will be very surprised if they don't come out with a CE version of every saber they've already made.

 

[Stormy320]

Wow - this is exciting.

I thought I was going to be home free in 2006 with MR, because it doesn't look like the Falcon will make it out in 06.

Oh well - looks like I'm going to have to get this one.

I love MRs.

I have long thought that the Denix doesn't look right. When you attend the Star Wars exhibits that travel around and see the Blasters in the holsters, you can tell right away the Denix is off.

I would appreciate if the experts confirm - but isn't the Denix 10% too small.

I love all the new upgrades, but too me, having the correct size base gun is one of the most exciting advancements on this piece.

I must have missed some threads and would appreciate links. The last major finding I remember reading was the German flash suppressor, but it looks like more finding have come about.

 

[Prop Runner]

Originally posted by Stormy320@Feb 24 2006, 09:10 PM
I would appreciate if the experts confirm - but isn't the Denix 10% too small.

I love all the new upgrades, but too me, having the correct size base gun is one of the most exciting advancements on this piece.

I'm told it's around 9% smaller than a real C96.

I must have missed some threads and would appreciate links.  The last major finding I remember reading was the German flash suppressor, but it looks like more finding have come about.

Here are a few that are still around or have been archived:

The ANH Solo blaster suppressor research & discovery thread:

http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=96292

MG81 booster-suppressor show off thread:

http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=98676

Screen-used suppressor finish discussion thread:

http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=99693

ANH Solo blaster scope mount research & discovery thread:

http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=96700

- Gabe

 

[Hairyloft]

You have done some amazing work Prop runner, you must be a patient man. Cant wait for this EE version it is going to be the Business.

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@Feb 24 2006, 09:10 PM
I would appreciate if the experts confirm - but isn't the Denix 10% too small.

I love all the new upgrades, but too me, having the correct size base gun is one of the most exciting advancements on this piece.

I'm told it's around 9% smaller than a real C96.

I must have missed some threads and would appreciate links.  The last major finding I remember reading was the German flash suppressor, but it looks like more finding have come about.

Here are a few that are still around or have been archived:

The ANH Solo blaster suppressor research & discovery thread:

http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=96292

MG81 booster-suppressor show off thread:

http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=98676

Screen-used suppressor finish discussion thread:

http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=99693

ANH Solo blaster scope mount research & discovery thread:

http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=96700

- Gabe

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[Betamin]

ANY ideas on a price range that the pistol might be in?

 

[Stormy320]

I haven't been this excited about a MR item in a long time.

I'm glad their doing this, even though it will make my Blaster obsolete. I can't wait to see it. I'm guessing around $600.00.

Any ideas on when you will be able to order it? I don't want to miss it.

 

[Star Wars Man]

i just saw a ANH han from MR er...somewhere (think, real easy.)

for a blistering amount of cha ching. over...o idk if i am aloud to post the price. well...look for it.

how can they do that? like MR hasnt come out with it yet have they?

 

[Hairyloft]

Anyone heard any updates on this blaster yet?

 

[Chimera]

Originally posted by Hairyloft@Apr 14 2006, 06:01 AM
Anyone heard any updates on this blaster yet?

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It'll be pristine, not weathered, other than that no further information.

 

[temponaut]

Cross-posted from the thread "Any updates on new ANH Han Solo Blaster from MR":

Originally posted by temponaut@Apr 9 2006, 08:48 PM
RS announcement of the Han ANH EE

I just read through the entire rebelscum thread linked above.  Along the way I decided to excerpt all of MRSWBryan's comments regarding the new Han blaster and post them here for the reference of my fellow RPFers. 

Information in parentheses following each excerpt refers to number, date, and time of post.


MRSWBryan's responses to questions regarding the Han Ep. IV Blaster EE, excerpted from the rebelscum thread: 

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Q:  What is the next EE?

A:  Ok, we are giving you all the exclusive scoop. The next EE we do will be the Han Solo Ep. IV Blaster.. Woohoooo..  (#1705918 - 02/21/06 08:30 PM)

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Q:  How will the Han IV EE be different than the LE?

A: As some of you may know, our original LE was made froma Denix, which is a replica of a Mauser. Now, the new EE, based on the new information that we have is based on the Broomhandle Mauser. So, this one is accurate to the actual filming prop. Also, the scope will be 'see through" and the handle will be made from wood instead of plastic.

Also, there has been a lot of discussion of the "Antennae" detail behind the suppressors. After a lot of investigative interviews, we have determined that they were there in pre-production but were no longer there in the actual filming. The Merr Sonn casting was done on the pre-production prop. However, the first time the gun was fired, it most likely fell off from the recoil. That is why it is not seen in the screen grabs that all of you have. This we think that this also explains the infamous "mystery Disk"

Therefore, we will be supplyng this piece with the prop. You have the choice to display it as either the pre-production version or the one seen on screen, with it missing.  (Post #1706131 - 02/21/06 09:07 PM)

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Q:  What is the pricepoint prediction for the Han Solo ANH Blaster EE and will it be able to ship to states like California where there is that no gun through the mail law?

A:  As you know, this has been a problem since the beginning. We are still working this out. How we can distribute throught our authorized retailer and yet still have it exclusive to the Collectors Society.  (#1706192 - 02/21/06 09:18 PM)

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Q:  When will it be available to buy?

A:  Acualy it was originally scheduled for June, but we decided to revise the design to have a working hammer. So, this has delayed a little. We will let you know when we have a date to release.  (#1706210 - 02/21/06 09:21 PM)

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Q:  Un-freaking-believable.  With a Han ANH Elite Blaster....you guys have just about burned the LAST bridge with those that have been around since 2002.  ANOTHER RE-ISSUE of a retired Prop?

A:  This is not a re-issued prop. With the new information that we have received, we feel that it is important to produce the most accurate prop with the information available. The prop that we made in 2002 was made with the information that was available at the time. But this new EE is so different, we felt the the fans would really like to have this new version. I am sure that you have read all of the new threads about the Han Solo Blaster.

Since this is not a re-issue of the same gun, this will not affect the value of the original LE.  (#1706260 - 02/21/06 09:30 PM)

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Q:  What about those of us that bought into the LIES Master Replicas back in 2002? Once a prop is retired...it's gone.

A:  As mentioned before, the one made in 2002 is a retired prop. This is a different version with latest information. I think that both pieces would be great to have in your collection.  (#1706396 - 02/21/06 09:52 PM)

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Q:  Were there more than one version of the Solo blaster? I hear people referring to the Greedo Killer...

A:  You are correct, that is a different version of the Han Solo Blaster.  (#1706431 - 02/21/06 09:58 PM)

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Q:  Bryan, you've said how the design of the Han ANH EE will differ from the LE, but will it be weathered? Or pristine/as first built by?

A:  It will be weathered.  (#1706490 - 02/21/06 10:14 PM)

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As far as I can tell, that was everything that MR had to say about the Han Ep.IV Blaster EE on that particular RS thread. 

Oh, there was also a post in which Bryan said that MR is trying to negotiate an Anthony Daniels SE C-3PO head.  :eek

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[Chimera]

Originally posted by temponaut@Apr 14 2006, 09:33 AM
A:  It will be weathered.  (#1706490 - 02/21/06 10:14 PM)

This has changed however, and the blaster will now be pristine as I said above. This was confirmed by the "MR Council", a small group of Rebelscum users who met with MR recently at their headquarters in Walnut Creek.

 

[Corellianexports]

My spies tell me the retail price on this thing will be about $675.

The original Han MR blaster was retailed at $499 if memory serves.

By the way, Prop Runner, the Denix replica isn't that far off from a real Mauser.

When I did my scaling, I only found about a 1/16" difference in length for the lower bracket. Every thing else came up 100% for use on either a real or replica Mauser. :unsure

 

[DL 44 Blaster]

Originally posted by Corellianexports@Apr 14 2006, 02:46 PM
the Denix replica isn't that far off from a real Mauser.

When I did my scaling, I only found about a 1/16" difference in length for the lower bracket.  Every thing else came up 100% for use on either a real or replica Mauser.  :unsure

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Cool.. I didn't know they were that close. Makes me not resnt my Denix based DL44s so much

Steve