MR drops CE line...Qui-Gon ONLY one to be made!

[hydin]

its a lose/lose situation, thats for damned sure.

i would have been all over the CE line, cause i could care less about signatures and even less about "super limited scalper friendly" editions.

people whining and bitching about "losing value" deserve to lose every penny they had "invested" in it. you dont buy this crap to put your kid through college, you buy it because you want to.

face it, if you have 400 bucks to lob at a dust collector and do it happily, why complain when someone else lobs 200 bucks at a dust collector that looks similar?

im not happy with MR stuff, and this doesnt make me any more friendly towards em as i was about to get back into saber collecting once i got a new job. hurrah, i can blow my money on something else.

unlike most "normal" people, my wallet and my heart rate both balk at spending 500$ on a single thing that doesn't actually "do" anything.

guess i will end up with an xbox 360 o my own after all.

chris

 

[tripoli]

Yep, when they released the previously noted direct sales item in limited amounts to their distributors, that was an indicator right there that they are not selling as expected. It comes down to those that want a costume or cheap replica versus a collectible display piece.

And yes, you can look to ebay as to what the consumer demand really is. If its selling below, that is an in the face indicator that the new product is not selling at the value they priced it for.
They went to the direct sales to try to curtail the ebay secondary market slump. But true market demand is always going to control the market price. Thats a fundamental reality.

 

[rad1701]

The decision didn't surprise me at all. They had made a high end line for so long, the CE didn't seem to fit in well with that. I also agree they missed the price point. The CE line needed to be at most $100 or less to be worth it compared to the LE versions. Finally, I can easily see MR trying this tactic again sometime in the future when the LE run has kind of run it's course.

 

[cayman shen]

The thing that'll REALLY twist my nipples is if I see QGJ LEs for less than the $140 I paid for my CE. That'll be a doody in my ice cream.

 

[tripoli]

Given the past history of these, I find that doubtful. All the sabers have held their value over the long term so far. Far down the road, maybe, but for now they seem to be held quite well as a high price collectable on the secondary market.

 

[AlltoEasy]

the market will peak again next year when the 30th anniversary kicks in (the 3D releases at the flicks) and a Complete dvd box set release plus a maybe vanilla blu-ray release :angry (HD DVD all the way :thumbsup) and all the "investers" will jump for joy until thats all done with then the market will drop again until the tv series starts and then the whole thing will start again (after all why kill a cash cow)

wish id thought of Star Wars (cheers George for something I love and hate in equal measure)

Dan

 

[RKW]

Why is it so hard for some to understand that people like to own things that only a few people in the world own?

Sometimes it's necessary to pay over the odds to aquire something. You don't pay over the odds in a hope that you can sell it later for more but because you want it badly enough to have in your collection.

There are loads of high end collectibles that I can't afford but I don't bitch about why the manufacturer doesn't make a cheaper mass produced version.

 

[Mados]

While it does feel nice that I have one of only 1250 sabers like it in the world, that is certainly not among the reasons I bought it. I wouldn't care if everyone I passed on the street had one, thats still my favorite saber. I bought my Obi Elite in after MR sold out, and bought it for higher than retail because I thought the price would shoot up soon. Wrong, they are selliing for less than retail last time I looked. And this irritates me a little, thinking of the money I could have saved, but I have the saber I want and thats whats important. Save investing for your stock broker. And if you want a status symbol buy a Ferrari. I wish MR had never made the props limited.

 

[Amanaman]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cayman shen @ Dec 12 2006, 11:37 AM) [snapback]1376262[/snapback]</div>

Really? I thought they were ABS around a metal rod. To quote Groo, did I err?
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Yup, you erred gravely. :cry

Obi ROTS is my first LE, and it's surprisingly HEAVY. 100% metal. The grip is machined metal just painted black. I sold off the display case to defray the cost, making it a heck of a bargain. I recommend getting it from The Saber Vault for $205 shipped.

I have plans for displaying my OWK's in a shrine setup, but I guess now I'll have to go fan-made to obtain the other ones.

I simply refuse to pay inflated prices for a metal tube. It's easy for many to lose perspective on this.

 

[Crimsonnaire]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ortiz34 @ Dec 12 2006, 10:09 AM) [snapback]1376218[/snapback]</div>

The Le owners ruined it for the people not willing to pay 350+ for something that will sit on a table.
Mr is basically out of sabers to make anyway, no idea why they would bow down to customers who they already had , instead of try and get new ones...
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To clarify, MR didn't bow down to the consumers in question. MR bowed down to an essential founding policy that these particular consumers prevented MR from crossing. The circumstances surrounding the creation of the CE did not necessitate for its creation. Either an intentional or unintentional lack of creativity in conjunction with the other circumstances necessitated the CE. MR may be at the end of the saber line, but there are endless methods to continue their business, it's just a shame that the lust for money was so carelessly exposed.

Personally, I've nothing against the CE. I have never protested the CE, only criticized it on one or two occasions for its lack of vision. And while it may be due to selfish reasons that the particular LE owners publicly protested the CE, they're not wrong about it because of the initially contracted conditions laid out by the manufacturer. It's one thing to tell the possibilities and exploiting them at a later time, but to promise buyers one thing and end up contradicting it is incontrovertibly counter ethical. The spade has been called.

 

[nash]

I couldnt be happier that the CE line was dropped. If they had made them out of RESIN, I and im sure a lot of other LE collectors wouldnt have so much of a problem with it.

Maybe MR will come up with a RE "Resin Edition" down the road.

 

[yodaman]

I don't think MR bowed out of the CE line due to complaints from LE owners as much as people contend. The decision IMO was all about money as well as new management decisions by CORGI. When you have a shift in management like MR has experienced recently, you're bound to see changes that take you in different directions. This is probably the first of several changes likely to be seen with MR - only time will tell.

 

[cayman shen]

Oh I got mine from the Saber Vault and sold the case too. Fabulous deal. I just could have sworn, having held it, that it was plastic. It feels plastic to me. Oh well, my mistake.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cayman shen @ Dec 12 2006, 11:37 AM) [snapback]1376262[/snapback]

Really? I thought they were ABS around a metal rod. To quote Groo, did I err?
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Yup, you erred gravely. :cry

Obi ROTS is my first LE, and it's surprisingly HEAVY. 100% metal. The grip is machined metal just painted black. I sold off the display case to defray the cost, making it a heck of a bargain. I recommend getting it from The Saber Vault for $205 shipped.

I have plans for displaying my OWK's in a shrine setup, but I guess now I'll have to go fan-made to obtain the other ones.

I simply refuse to pay inflated prices for a metal tube. It's easy for many to lose perspective on this.
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[BigDumbWookiee]

MR's decision to drop the CE line has helped convince me to just build my own replicas, or buy fan made replicas from other collectors. I'll take accuracy and price over licensing and edition size any day.

 

[Gigatron]

Personally, I don't give a flyin' whoop-de-doo about CE, LE or any other super-duper sorta kinda edition they poop out. I just hope thay don't scrap any plans they had for the Qui-Gon mini. It's the one saber that's keeping my EP. I collection from being finished. I have the mini obi and mini maul (both "full" size and battle damaged), but I still have a space in my 3-tier display set aside for the mini qui-gon.

-Fred

 

[BigDumbWookiee]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gigatron @ Dec 13 2006, 02:55 PM) [snapback]1376939[/snapback]</div>

Personally, I don't give a flyin' whoop-de-doo about CE, LE or any other super-duper sorta kinda edition they poop out. I just hope thay don't scrap any plans they had for the Qui-Gon mini. It's the one saber that's keeping my EP. I collection from being finished. I have the mini obi and mini maul (both "full" size and battle damaged), but I still have a space in my 3-tier display set aside for the mini qui-gon.

-Fred
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They're still due for a Vader ROTJ mini too.

 

[cayman shen]

Hey, I wonder if the Vader ROTJ will see the massive price drops the QGJ LE did. Have these even shipped yet? I never see them on ebay.

 

[ortiz34]

this le/ce thing is scary similiar to the nba leather/synthetic basketball fiasco...

 

[Grouch]

I guess I'm a "class act" on RS because I argue for the existence of two product line and don't cater to the speculative hopes a few immature children on the internet.

My feeling a gravely hurt.

But to anyone who might be on both forums. If I've said anything to personally offend you I am sorry. I do however still stand by my comments.

 

[ortiz34]

fyi here is the coa
http://www.rebelscum.com/mr/mr-lukesaber_coa.jpg

I dont see how releasing rehased SE's or elites or AFBB's didnt do something that a CE did however...
If ya didnt want a limited number collectible, why did ya buy it? Because it was the only one released at the time? Thats your own fault...

I wish all of my 'investments' were guaranteed.