Wow - if my assault phaser looked like that I would be very happy. Unfortunately, it doesn't.
MR Assualt Phaser Delivered!
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Exactly.
Mine went back, everything. I was instructed to just return the Phaser only but when I went to unpack the case I found the the paint along the entire front of the base was screwed up, just couldn’t win with this one.
I’ve requested that I have a completely new factory sealed unit returned to me. That was Thursday when I received the return tag, haven't heard a word since.
Good luck. I hope you get a good one. After the junk they originally sent you, you deserve it.
Onigiri
Sr Member
it looks exactly like what you have there except teh MR is cleaner. Thats all it is. Mine was painted silver for some reason (I think after the fact) but it is exactly as it is shown in the MR
For all the discussion about the little Phaser 1 (never seen on screen) in the Assault Phaser, does anyone have any pictures of an original prop of this item? I think MR just took a stab at it. Frankly, I was surprised to get it. And I think it looks just fine by the way.
Mola Rob
Sr Member
On my MR Klingon Disruptor the sound effect is re-triggered each time I push the firing button, the audio sample is interrupted each time and starts from the beginning. Not sure why there would be different versions out there?
I don't think that there are different versions out there, mine does exactly what yours does. I think that PsyBear was mistaken in his review.
I have to say that I do like the small stand on the display case for the P1
PsyBear
Well-Known Member
You're absolutely right. I stand corrected. :$ The coolness of my disrupter just went up a few notches and makes the assault phaser look even worse.
barbatus
Well-Known Member
The Assault Phaser is my favorite Phaser Design and I was really hoping the first reviews of the MR product would help me to decide whether to order one or not. But following this thread I´m more confused than before. To me it seemed like in the past whenever MR released a new product there were the "This sucks and MR stinks" guys and the "This is the best thing ever and MR rules" guys. (Yes, I´m overdrawing a little.) This time even some of the people that were pleased with MR products in the past are unhappy with this one (even if their Phaser doesn´t have a messy finish like gojira61´s Phaser had). The Phaser on the treksinscifi.com pix looks top notch, but 400$ is an awful lot of money just to give it a try...
And is it possible to finally clarify which parts are metal? Hood, Emitter, Radiator, Setting Knob ???
MR or roddenberry.com, that´s the question...
And is it possible to finally clarify which parts are metal? Hood, Emitter, Radiator, Setting Knob ???
MR or roddenberry.com, that´s the question...
Onigiri
Sr Member
Well, they were both mastered by the same folks so youll get accuracy either way.
Now, you have a kit for $219 or built with electronics and case for $400. The kit does NOT have the following features
1. Built (obviously)
2. Case
3. Electronics
4. Functioning magazine and cowl releases (which I find VERY cool)
Now, Rodd.com is WAY behind on electronics and I would not expect an electronics kit any time in the near future. If they WERE to come up with one comparable to what the MR has previous offering tells us to expect a $140-$160 price tag IF it was ever released.
BOTH are plastic bodies with the same metal accent pieces so what it boils down to is this
$400 v. $220
Built v. Unbuilt
Electronics v. No electronics
Working release mechanisms v. None
Case v. None
So...for $180 you are getting electronics INSTALLED in a BUILT replica with WORKING magazine and cowl release complete with display case.
If you added the cost of the vapor prop electronics package to the Rodd.com you would be looking at
$400 v. $220 + $150 (on the LOW end)
ie
$400 for MR built with case v. $370 for Rodd UNBUILT minus the
case and other cool features
Seems like a no brainer
Case v. None
Now, you have a kit for $219 or built with electronics and case for $400. The kit does NOT have the following features
1. Built (obviously)
2. Case
3. Electronics
4. Functioning magazine and cowl releases (which I find VERY cool)
Now, Rodd.com is WAY behind on electronics and I would not expect an electronics kit any time in the near future. If they WERE to come up with one comparable to what the MR has previous offering tells us to expect a $140-$160 price tag IF it was ever released.
BOTH are plastic bodies with the same metal accent pieces so what it boils down to is this
$400 v. $220
Built v. Unbuilt
Electronics v. No electronics
Working release mechanisms v. None
Case v. None
So...for $180 you are getting electronics INSTALLED in a BUILT replica with WORKING magazine and cowl release complete with display case.
If you added the cost of the vapor prop electronics package to the Rodd.com you would be looking at
$400 v. $220 + $150 (on the LOW end)
ie
$400 for MR built with case v. $370 for Rodd UNBUILT minus the
case and other cool features
Seems like a no brainer
Case v. None
I think a lot of the people who say they will go with the Rodd are forgetting that it does not come with electronics and not everyone has the skills to build them anyways. For me, it was a no brainer since I can't build a kit to save my life and if Rodd ever does come out with electronics, it would end up costing me between $500 and $700 to buy everything and have it built by someone who knows what they are doing. If Rodd were ever to release a built version with electronics, it would most likely be in the same price range as the Built TOS Phaser, which they charge $650 for. So, like I said, for me it was a no brainer.
I look at the P1 in side the Battle Phaser and ask my self...Self, Why would you have a smaller less powerful weapon inside a
Phaser created for military or covert operations a phaser that is a step up from the regular Federation issued weapon.
So lets say you have a prime ambush spot and don't want to make alot of noise
And you decide to use the P1 on your target, and much do your dismay all it dose is PISS off your target and announces your location. To have all sorts of real BAD things come your way.
The solution: You remove the P1 and throw it in the opposite direction of where you are hiding to distract the enemies' attention
So you can get the drop on them and send all sorts of BAD things there way.
Providing of course they fall for that old trick.
Now on the serious side, I do ask my self why have P1 in the area of a weapon that the power clip
plugs into, Why not have some sort of power converter cells, Because to me this seems like the sort of
space (where the weapon opens) for one to do maintenance
(I am referring to the way the Enterprise Phase pistol opened to revel the power cell)
This should not be a hiding place for a smaller tickle your enemy weapon.
Now if somebody here designed something else to fit into this spot to take advantage of the light source as a different fantasy add on
I would buy one, Heck I would even help you mold the part.
Since the P1 was a fantasy piece and never really seen in the movie, Why not
TK648
Phaser created for military or covert operations a phaser that is a step up from the regular Federation issued weapon.
So lets say you have a prime ambush spot and don't want to make alot of noise
And you decide to use the P1 on your target, and much do your dismay all it dose is PISS off your target and announces your location. To have all sorts of real BAD things come your way.
The solution: You remove the P1 and throw it in the opposite direction of where you are hiding to distract the enemies' attention
So you can get the drop on them and send all sorts of BAD things there way.
Providing of course they fall for that old trick.
Now on the serious side, I do ask my self why have P1 in the area of a weapon that the power clip
plugs into, Why not have some sort of power converter cells, Because to me this seems like the sort of
space (where the weapon opens) for one to do maintenance
(I am referring to the way the Enterprise Phase pistol opened to revel the power cell)
This should not be a hiding place for a smaller tickle your enemy weapon.
Now if somebody here designed something else to fit into this spot to take advantage of the light source as a different fantasy add on
I would buy one, Heck I would even help you mold the part.
Since the P1 was a fantasy piece and never really seen in the movie, Why not
TK648
Maybe the little guy still packs a punch but it is a one shot deal.
Or maybe it can plug into the top of the clip all by itself and keep shooting.
Or maybe you can set the big guy on overload, throw it, and still retain a weapon.
Well, like the Bladerunner Blaster, I think all explainations are going to kind of fall short, because it is a fantasy weapon and it was designed to look cool first and foremost, only the original designer can explain what they were thinking.
Or maybe it can plug into the top of the clip all by itself and keep shooting.
Or maybe you can set the big guy on overload, throw it, and still retain a weapon.
Well, like the Bladerunner Blaster, I think all explainations are going to kind of fall short, because it is a fantasy weapon and it was designed to look cool first and foremost, only the original designer can explain what they were thinking.
Granted this is just plain geekery on my part, but...
- I'd always assumed that since all the original cast films had the modular thing going on, that there was some essential "heart of the phaser" technology that was likely just prohibitively expensive to make scads of. Thus it would make sense to use a single core and just keep packing more power/range on it as necessary for the application. By TNG times replicators were around, and the cost of production issue would be pretty much gone.
Or heck, maybe someone bought off a senator to get the Federation supply contract. Since when have gov't contracts ever made sense?
- I'd always assumed that since all the original cast films had the modular thing going on, that there was some essential "heart of the phaser" technology that was likely just prohibitively expensive to make scads of. Thus it would make sense to use a single core and just keep packing more power/range on it as necessary for the application. By TNG times replicators were around, and the cost of production issue would be pretty much gone.
Or heck, maybe someone bought off a senator to get the Federation supply contract. Since when have gov't contracts ever made sense?
There is nothing really assault-ey about this phaser to me really.
It's nearly the same as a regular ol TOS phaser in function.
Other then that rifle rig for it.
It's nearly the same as a regular ol TOS phaser in function.
Other then that rifle rig for it.
kuyadavid
Well-Known Member
This seems like a spectacular idea to me! Although it doesn't make a lot of sense to have a puny little mini-phaser inside the P2, I like the idea of carrying on the classic tradition in the design. Since the P1 was never to be seen, it's understandable that very little effort went into it.
But what would the P1 look like if it had been featured in one of the films? I bet it would look cool. I bet someone here (or a collaborative group of someones) has the talent to design something worthy of being inside this badass weapon.
If it were cool, I would buy one and display it on the little pedestal in front of the P2.
PsyBear
Well-Known Member
I really think the only reason the P1 is there is because Shatner wanted it there. Maybe he was feeling nostalgic or something. Beyond that it would serve no useful purpose in the field. I have large hands and can barely hang onto the thing its so tiny. I'd be more than likely to indadvertantly shoot myself fumbling with it than I would an enemy.
Sadly, the filming prop did have it, so the MR version has it. MR could have at least put a little more effort into it and made it look better than it does. To me, it looks like they molded it in color so that all the asembly line people would have to do is cut the pieces from the sprue and glue them together with no filling, sanding, or painting which is why it looks so damn cheap.
I'm still keeping my fingers crossed on the Tricorder!
barbatus
Well-Known Member
Thanks Onigiri for summing up the pros and cons. I did the same thing with the MR Luke ANH Saber vs. selfbuilt and bought the MR since the price was identical plus I got a wonderful presentation case for "free".
However, in this case it is more complicated since I don´t know if I really need the soundeffects and to do the lighting isn´t that much of a deal. The cowl release however is a very cool feature. Guess I´ll try to sell some stuff to see if I can finance the difference between MR and roddenberry.com
Concerning the P1: To me it is just a homage which makes no sense at all. Of course it would have made more sense to add a few details to at least make it look like a phaser, but how many times has MR been bashed in the past for idealizing props?
And since you started questioning the logic of the design: How in the world do they aim with any of the Star Trek handheld Phasers?
However, in this case it is more complicated since I don´t know if I really need the soundeffects and to do the lighting isn´t that much of a deal. The cowl release however is a very cool feature. Guess I´ll try to sell some stuff to see if I can finance the difference between MR and roddenberry.com
Concerning the P1: To me it is just a homage which makes no sense at all. Of course it would have made more sense to add a few details to at least make it look like a phaser, but how many times has MR been bashed in the past for idealizing props?
And since you started questioning the logic of the design: How in the world do they aim with any of the Star Trek handheld Phasers?
