most accurate Star Trek TOS phaser II ?

nwjedidave

Sr Member
how does the MR phaser stack up against the Coyle's and others that have been made through out the years?

I don't own a MR and have been kicking my self in the butt since I cancelled my original order for one.
 
Accurate to which TOS phaser? That's the crucial issue - each hand-made phaser prop was subtly different in detail and dimension from the other.

I love the MR phaser, the detail and quality is great, but the phaser 1 is not even accurate to the original phaser they had on hand. It's too slim in height.

My Coyle is a prized posession, and the P1 is definitely more accurate in dimension than the MR. The handle is a little too bulky.

My bet would be the new phaser 1 kit from John Long...
 
I would be the first to say I did not totally try for total accuracy; I was first making a model to be worn with a costume.

Later as more and more were putting them in glass cases did I work towards a more accurate model.

I have tried to put forward the idea of screen accurate and set accurate models.

Screen accurate is what you saw on the TV or Movie screen, with sound and light effects. What you saw Captain Kirk fire.

Set accurate is what was really there, no sound (never used on a set and often many models are used to create the working functions.) often crude with many flaws.
What you would have seen William Shatner hold on the set, and if you were allowed to see it close up.

I was trying for screen accurate.

John Long is doing set accurate.

So we are Apples to Oranges.

My 2 cents worth.


Rich
 
Behold...

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the ultimate in phaser replicas.
 
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Behold...

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the ultimate in phaser replicas.
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:lol

Yeah... that's it folks... pens down, turn in your papers... we have a winner... :p

But seriously... the question was who has the most "accurate" TOS phaser... and I would say the answer is, the most accurate phaser is the one you build yourself. :thumbsup

Barring that, the MR is a very fine phaser, with some really cool actions and features. Plus some glaring inaccuracies. But all in all, it's the most accurate commercially licensed replica TOS phaser you can buy.

Another "apparently licensed" piece, the water pistol sold by Star Trek Experience in Vegas, is nearly identical to the MR phaser, but costs only about $12. I'm still waiting for somebody to pimp one out with metal and electronics. :D

The economy king is still of course the black-handled Art Asylum toy phaser pistol; lights, sounds and separable P1 all for under $20. And leave it alone and you've got a perfect replica of the screenusd phaser seen in "Star Trek Enterprise's" episode "In a Mirror Darkly". :lol

Over the years Rich Coyle has produced many different styles of TOS phaser, and he seems to be gravitating now more towards "replica" rather than his own interpretation. You'll pay a premium for the name, but you're getting a quality replica that everyone recognizes.

And let's not forget the HMS kits sold through Rodd.com, which are similar to the Art Asylum toy but can be built up to make a very handsome and accurate replica.

- k
 
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Screen accurate is what you saw on the TV or Movie screen, with sound and light effects. What you saw Captain Kirk fire.

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well said Rich, and that was my intended original question. Sooner or later I would like to buy a "high class" phaser II for my display, and since the secondary market on the MR ones has gone through the atmosphere, I'm going to look around before I plunk down a good chunk of change .
 
But where is my "real working" phaser? There are a few folks lately that I'd like to stun. ;)

P.S. I love my MR phaser but also have dreams of having better someday.
 
If I had a nickel for every time I have heard that one.....

I know I want one for the SOB that cut me off on the freeway too....


Rich
 
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE

Well, the John Long P1/P2 Trek TOS phasers seems the most screen accurate, but he wasn't selling them until now. At least the P1 is available. It's based upon the Greg Jein screen used hero phaser. It's a kit for those that are picky about accuracy in shape, size, accurate inner workings, and period accurate materials it's made of. But be warned, the kit is pretty involved and not for the new prop maker. Figure $200 for the P1 kit and some more for an experienced person to build it up. That's what I'm going to do.

StarTrekStore P1 Phaser Link

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There's also the HMS Phaser P1/P2 resin/metal kits at Roddenberry.com for $229.95 (plus extra for sounds/lights electronics if you want that). They are also fairly accurate, but also need to be built up. And it'll be extra work past the kit to make accurate features like a rising site on the P1, etc.

Roddenberry Store Phaser Link

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If you're not too picky, you can pick up the Diamond Select plastic Trek TOS P1/P2 phaser for $24.99 USD and have some upgrades done to it that make it a fairly accurate phaser. There are members here who, from time to time, sell metal upgrade parts (watch the junkyard) that will fit the Diamond Select Phaser. This one is ready to go out of the box, but suffers from many small and maybe not so small inaccuracies (texture on P1, when it should be smooth, crooked P2 side stripes, etc.). Though overall, it's the best going for the person on a budget.

NewForceComics Store Phaser Link

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That's my currently-selling list, at least until Rich comes along with a new TOS Trek Phaser (hopefully).

Tom
 
My 3 favorite Phaser-2's are,

My Nelson's,

My Miarecki,

My Mr

Hopefully Mr will come out with a new and improved Phaser-2 so you can get in on that one Dave. :)
 
My favorite is no doubt the Coyle Phaser and then MR comes in second. I keep those in storage. The ones that I display are upgraded AA Phasers.

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No one mentioned the Masterpiece Models resin phaser kit.
This kit is the one that gets you as close as you can get to the accurate dimensions of the only known existing hero phaser from TOS. This kit has some metal parts and takes some skill to finish but can look really sharp. They only sold about 200 of these so they can be kinda rare. However blufive bought their molds and is making more, I believe.
I will be selling off one of mine on e bay pretty soon so keep looking.
 
A friend of mine made a phaser II out of balsa wood a number of years ago. This thing was SO damned close to the originals, it was sick. The phaser I came out of it and everything, it was awesome.

I'll have to snag some pics at some point.
 
SOLD OUTS on eBay or in RPF Junkyard

John Long's current selling P1 and the "sold out: Mastepiece Models manufactured resin kit based upon molds supplied by John Long come closest to screen used accurate in shape. I don't have a "MM", but some complain of inconsistent quality control across the manufacturing run by Masterpiece Models. Also, you better get some metal parts to replace the ones that are resin on the kit that should be metal (if accuracy is your aim).

Masterpiece Models Phaser Kit (referred to as MM's)

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The Master Replicas Phaser is fairly accurate overall, but not as close as the "MM" phaser shape. The P2 hood is too high, the P1 shape is wrong, etc. What the "MR" Phaser lacks in accuaracy, they make up for in the sheer fun boatload of features. The downside is this prop is very fragile and prone to breaking down on alot of its features. Also, it sells for a king ransom on eBay. And be careful. These get traded around more than the school tramp and may have already seen a lot of wear and be prone to early breakage even before you buy it. That said, everyone should have one of these if you're collecting phasers.

Master Replicas ("MR" Phaser)

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The Coyle phaser. My favorite is Rich's last run of phasers he did that are the digital version for Roddenberry.com. That phaser is loud, bright and a lot of fun. It's also more durable than the MR and Richard is an industry prop professional whose phasers hold their value well. Upside is it's already made too.

Richard Coyle Phaser

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I'm also partial to the extremely small run of Todd Mustachio phasers (rare on eBay), which have a very accurate shape to them according to Steve Dymszo (formerly of Master Replicas). Steve said it was more accurate than the "MR" phaser in shape. Like the Coyles, these are durable resin and metal with bright lights and "clear the room" loud sounds.

Todd Mustachio ("TM" Phasers)

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Another super great resin/metal phaser is the Dennis Stines phaser. Super duper ultra rare though. Only a small run out there that are within a small circle of people. He built up a small run of phasers that were very accurate, with quality metal parts and hero features like raising P1 site and removeable accurate pronged handle. Has custom made quality electronics with tons of loud sounds and bright lights.

Dennis Stines Phaser (known as a DStines phaser)
SORRY, no publicly available photo on this one. If someone has a picture of theirs, please post it

>>> If someone wants to sell their DStines phaser, please PM me.<<<


There's also the Ed Miarecki static resin phaser. No lights or sounds, but if you get his last run they're one of the more accurate phasers in shape and super well made. They are rare but can be bought for a reasonable price when they do show up. Ed's also an industry propmaker and these hold their value too.

Even further back (starting in 70's 'til 80's) is the Brad Nelson phaser that uses a strobe light to "flash beam" your enemies. Painfully ultra rare to find a working one in good condition and can sell for as much as a car. Phaser collectors from the early days have a fondness for this phaser, even though it's not that accurate. But considering there were no DVD's to get screencaps off back then, he did a great job.

So, if accuracy is your aim, get a good MM builtup with additional metal parts by one of the seasoned phaser makers on the board here with grain of wheat lights, no sounds, extending P2 emitter when P1 is inserted, pronged removeable handle, etc. (like the Greg Jein phaser). But, be prepared to pay a lot for all that work, unless you do it yourself.

Tom
 
Whoa. I'm late to the party in this thread. I'm there isn't more activity here. Is there another active thread on this subject I haven't seen?
 
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