More goodies from John Wick 4
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Wow!!!!!!
I found a FLAW in their CGI of that scene. The table is reflective. But the reflection, instead of being real, is CGI. But look at this card ! The backside of the card is facing the table, and therefore if this was a real reflection the table would reflect the back of the card. But the table is reflecting the TOP of the card. The TOP of the card is facing AWAY from the table. It is physically impossible to reflect the top of the card if it is facing away from the reflection.
Yes, you can definitely hear the "klunk" of the cards. On glass with thin metal cards, it should be more of a "Klink".
Okay, the numbers are easy to figure out. There are 24 cards on the table and the highest card turned over was 23. If they were numbered 52 cards like a card deck, the odds would have been to turn over a higher card. So, numbered cards 1 through 24. All cards are on the table, no hidden or unused cards.
Rules are : You make your condition and turn over a card. It has a number. Your opponent makes a condition and turns over a card. High card wins that specific condition. Other guy named blades, John named pistols. John drew the higher card, so pistols.
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Mandalorian444
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Very interesting, but I would contend the trailer reflection is 100% real. The angle of the reflection between your picture and the one in the trailer, relative to the mirror, is very different. If you match the angle, you will indeed see that, even though your fingers are on the top of the card away from the mirror, you can still see the reflection of them. The angle matters a lot here.
I don't have a picture handy atm, but I did a sanity check on a reflective surface just to make sure. I can try to get a picture later.
Mandalorian444
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Crazy isn't it? You would think it can't reflect anything on the opposite side, but it actually can. Here's an extremely crude illustration of what's happening (please forgive the poor quality and potentially incorrect reflection angles). 
Anyway, silly light stuff, I don't want to detract too much from the cool props, just wanted to point that out. Please continue.
Anyway, silly light stuff, I don't want to detract too much from the cool props, just wanted to point that out. Please continue.
The picture is, indeed, very weird. If you can see the bottom cuff of his long sleeve, which is on the bottom of his arm, then it SEEMS you should see the bottom of the card as well. To see the top of the card, but the bottom of his arm seems distorted, but maybe that's just the nature of mirrors.
Mandalorian444
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That's what I was attempting to illustrate with my crude drawing. The bottom black line is supposed to represent the mirror table and the other line at 45 degrees is supposed to represent the card. What matters is not the simply the angle of the card to the table, but also relative to the viewpoint of the observer. The light bounces off the card at an angle where it can still hit some part of the mirror, and that part of the mirror then reflects the light to the observer.
I'll see if I can come up with a better illustration, cause it really is fascinating how it works.
Mandalorian444
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Gotcha.I asked my question just as you posted your diagram.
