'Mistakes' You've Found, Only To Find Out They Weren't Mistakes

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  1. Tremas

    Tremas Sr Member

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    Saw this while re-watching 2010....
    When Max and Curnow enter the DISCOVERY, an EVA pod is sitting in the docking bay; since there were three in there from 2001 and all were (presumed) lost (one ran Poole over, one was left outside when Bowman re-entered after HAL locked him out, and one was used by Bowman to enter the Monolith) I thought "AHA!"

    But, a quick read of IMDB brought forth this:
    No pods should be in the pod bay in 2010. The original film showed 3 pods. All were lost. The first was lost with Poole's body. The second was lost when Bowman blew the exploding bolts to enter the airlock. The third transported Bowman into the worm hole/monolith. When the crew enters the pod bay in 2010, one pod is is still sitting in it's storage area. (Although ignored in the movie, this is explained in the book (section4, chapter 24). Dave Bowman is supposed to have retrieved pod #3 on remote while preparing his departure.)

    What did you find, that you thought was a mistake, only to find out that it really wasn't?
     
  2. Wes R

    Wes R Legendary Member

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    Wouldn't it have been nice if they'd mentioned that part in the movie? It wouldn't have taken long to explain but I guess they didn't plan on folks scrutinizing things lol.
     
  3. corranhornjje

    corranhornjje Well-Known Member

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  4. Tremas

    Tremas Sr Member

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    True. :)
     
  5. terryr

    terryr Sr Member

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    I think the pod was a mistake... they just retconned it to cover up. There was no reason to have one anyway, except to show it off.
     
  6. Jedi2016

    Jedi2016 Sr Member

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    How does it classify as a retcon if it was written before the film that messed it up?
     
  7. epilepticsquirl

    epilepticsquirl Sr Member

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    When the stormtrooper hits his head when entering the control room.
     
  8. robn1

    robn1 Master Member

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    Yeah, that's the one thing that came off exactly as Lucas planned :lol
     
  9. SSgt Burton

    SSgt Burton Sr Member

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    In Batman the Movie (1966) when Batman and Robin are doing their standard "bat-climb" up the side of a building, you can see the wires being used to hold up their capes (their capes had wires attached because they weren't actually climbing vertically but on a shallow angle. The camera was tilted to make it look vertical).

    Anyway you could see the wires, which was a dead giveaway of the effect and "supposedly" a mistake...

    Until I listened to the dvd commentary: Adam West told the director to deliberately let the audience see the wires as he felt it would add to the lunacy of the sequence.


    Kevin
     
  10. cayman shen

    cayman shen Master Member

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    Insert pregnancy joke here: _______________
     
  11. Jodo

    Jodo Sr Member

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    When Hayden Christensen shows up at the end of ROTJ.
     
  12. Wes R

    Wes R Legendary Member

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    That was just a cruel joke Lucas wanted to throw in there.
     
  13. Maelstrom

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    I notice continuity mistakes in TV and movies all the time. They just glare out at me for some reason.

    Most recent find that comes to memory I was re-watching Walking Dead Season 1 and the scene after they are at the CDC and Dr. Jenner is in the control/computer room, Rick comes walking in holding a liquor bottle in his hands.

    When he is walking in if you look at his feet he is wearing athletic/tennis shoes, yet in the next cut when he gets over by the workstation and stumbles and drops down he is wearing his cowboy boots.
     
  14. The Wolf

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    In Mulholland Falls a detective puts a hat on a casket and walks away then puts his hat on his head. It looked like a goof and was listed on imdb as a goof. I rewound and looked closely at the detectives hand before he goes to the casket, he had a two hats. It just wasn't easy to see.

    Wolf
     
  15. BritNerfMogul

    BritNerfMogul New Member

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    I seem to be very good at spotting dolly wheels that are left on vehicle props. Two examples as follows:

    - BTTF P2 - As the doc is flying the Delorean behind Biff's ford, you can see a dolly wheel clear as day under the Delorean

    - Firefly - During the episode Ariel, you can see Wash sat on their makeshift heli-ambulance-thing and under every landing leg is a full dolly they use to shift it onto the set.
     
  16. Maelstrom

    Maelstrom Sr Member

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    Couple of good classics:

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  17. cayman shen

    cayman shen Master Member

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    Yeah but those ARE mistakes, not something you thought was a mistake.
     
  18. mmarlon brando

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    Die Hard, and McClane's changing shirt. It was several years before I found out the switch was explained in a cut scene.
     
  19. SSgt Burton

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    Technically that's still a mistake; if a movie is edited and a scene is left out, the conitinuity might have gaps. If a shot isn't included (or a line replaced to explain why he changed his shirt) it is a mistake.

    Another example of what I'm talking about above- in Galaxy Quest, when Jason and Gwen enter the room to stop the autodestruct, Gwen's uniform is normal- however just before Jason pushes the stop button her zipper has been lowered to her navel exposing her bra.

    This is because an entire scene was omitted in which two of Sarris' men enter the room, and Gwen unzips her uniform to distract them until they are standing under a door, which Gwen then crushes them with.

    Because the scene was left out- the lowered zipper becomes a mistake.


    This thread is about things we "incorrectly" regarded as mistakes/goofs etc.


    Kevin
     
  20. Jeyl

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    One time my Dad and I were watching Terminator 2 "Special Edition" and one of the guards asks Dyson "How are the wife and kids?". My Dad told me that "He only has one kid!" and I said "Wait for it". Sure enough, we got that added scene showing Dyson having a son and a daughter, unlike just the son that was seen in the theatrical version.
     
  21. Jedi2016

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    There's a bit in Final Fantasy: Advent Children where one of the characters notably gets his sunglasses broken. IMDB used to list it as a mistake when he showed up in the next scene (and the rest of the film) wearing his trademark sunglasses. The "mistake" is explained by the fact that you see the character, in the background of the next scene, pull another set of sunglasses out of his jacket and put them on (which actually fits rather well with the character, that he probably has multiple extras). But since he's not the focus of the shot, a lot of people miss it and assume it's a continuity error.
     
  22. JD

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    Technically it's not a mistake. It was intended.

    It might cause an issue with continuity... but to say it's a mistake means it was accidental, the examples you site are clearly intended.
     
  23. Jedi2016

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    Yes, but it's only "intended" because we know about it. What about all the movies that cut out scenes that we never see, never even know exist? Those can create continuity problems, too. Is it still a mistake if we don't actually know that it was intentional?
     
  24. JD

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    :confused

    A mistake is a mistake.

    If it's intentional, it's not a mistake.

    If a scene is omitted it doesn't necessarily mean that scene did not happen, just that we didn't see in the context of the film.

    They generally don't show the characters use the bathroom during the course of a film - doesn't mean it didn't happen.
     
  25. SSgt Burton

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    If a continuity error is not explained within the context of the final cut of the movie- it is a mistake in my eyes.

    Blade Runner 1982- 6 replicants have escaped. "One" of them got fried going through an electrical fence.

    :confused

    Where's the fifth one? Oh yeah, scene with a fifth actress that never made the film.

    Blade Runner The Final Cut- 6 replicants have escaped. "Two" of them got fried.

    "Mistake" corrected.


    Kevin
     
  26. Guri

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    Hawaii 5-O

    Scene 1 with a hero character finding a flight schedule letting them know the perp is about to fly the plane where he will likely kill the sky diving victim. (they make a big deal about it being 'right now!')

    Scene 2- the victim and perp get into the plane, take off, perp knocks out victim cold AND cuts his chute cord. (I thought it must be a mistake, why should he have to cut it if the victim is out cold?) Then he kicks him out of the airplane.

    Scene 3 - the victim is falling and I figure he's going to be splatter soon - but then, SAME HERO CHARACTER who found the flight schedule in scene 1 comes dropping out of NOWHERE (this has got to be a mistake, where did he come from, how'd they find time to get a plane in the sky and find this other guy, is he freakin' superman? ). Hero catches up to the victim and... pulls his string. Nothing happens. (Oh, so that wasn't a mistake, the perp was just setting up this additional drama) Then same hero decides to strap the victim to himself.

    Scene 4 - they land, right where the perp's plane sets down (oh, so that wasn't a mistake, this show just has no adherence to any believable space time continuum) and the heroes partner arrests him. Victim is saved. Cheesy comic line... bleh.


    I thought maybe it was just a fast ending or something and they wrote it poorly, but this show's writing is this ridiculous so often that I can't watch it. (Not even to watch Lost characters in Hawaii. )
     
  27. JD

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    If it's intended, it's intended... therefore, not a mistake - sorry about your eyes.

    We generally get an hour and half or to two hours in a movie. Often, a movie might take place over several days, hours... we don't see every little thing every character might do over the course of a film.

    Is it a mistake that 99% of film characters don't use the bathroom? No - it just means we didn't see it.

    It's not that hard to figure out that there things happening off screen that we don't see. Some of it is simply cut out causing some continuity problems... but, it does not mean it's mistake.

    ...it's a mistake to call them mistakes.
     
  28. James Kenobi 1138

    James Kenobi 1138 Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I just want to know how Han and Luke were able to keep their clothes, boots, and gun belt on under their Stormtrooper armor.
     
  29. micdavis

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    PFM :lol
     
  30. Wes R

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    That goes for a lot of disguises in movies from them to Superman and Spiderman.
     
  31. Jannix Quinn

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    Han Solo is an expert smuggler. He's probably used to stuffing things in small places.
     
  32. tcsmit29

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    Yes but when you are watching a movie and see something like a character's shirt that was blue is now red, your initial reaction is that they made a mistake. Then later you find out there was a missing scene that explains the shirt change you see that it wasn't. It doesn't matter what the director intended. Nobody knows what was intended. You can only go from your own personal opinion about what you see on screen. That is what this thread is about. Things that seemed like mistakes at first, but later you realize that it wasn't.

    Maybe George Lucas always intended for Hayden Christensen to be at the end of ROTJ but couldn't film it that way the first time because Hayden was only two years old. Doesn't mean it wasn't a mistake.:lol:sick:rolleyes
     
  33. Infamous Lunchbox

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    Going back to "2001: A Space Odyssey", it wasn't a retcon, the book and film were, get this, written at the same time, and the book was actually released after the movie! The book and movie were supposed to be watched/read together, for a complete understanding; if I understand correctly that is. The fact Kubrick and Clarke wrote/worked on these together means a lot of small continuity stuff was actually taken care of during production. Kubrick was known to be pretty intense about making his movies "perfect", so while he didn't feel it necessary to shoot the scene, I'm sure he felt it necessary for the pod to be there in both "universes". Meaning it was not a mistake or a retcon.

    Just saying. :)
     
  34. Daemon324

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    Isn't rare to write the book and make the movie at the same time, with all of that going on?


    :lol BTW, how the crap do you think the US wound up with the shuttle? Anyone besides myself know the story?


    Usually, they take out scenes if it adds time, but not to the story. Tat sucks sometimes though. :lol Wish they'd add a couple of lines to make a reference to the missing scene when it involves something like a shirt change.
     

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