Millennium FX Dr Who Sonic Screwdriver

[jedibugs]

CT is currently selling his Tennant SS! Buying things from him doesn't take forever to receive like other sellers, especially the seller and maker of the "approved" SS.

Ordered mine this morning! The site says a 2-3 week wait until it ships, but I've already been waiting this long so what's a couple more weeks?

Also, if anyone has any intentions at all of ordering a CT Tennant Sonic in Heritage Gold, you should let him know TODAY. Apparently there seems to be no demand for them, so he's getting them stripped down and repainted gray tomorrow.

I'm talking to you, Straker!

 

[phez]

This is still going huh :lol

Why doesn't CT just produce one or two pictures of the screen used Sonic that are NOT publicly available (that he took while examining the real Sonic). You can not tell me that some insider said "take all of the measurements with a caliper etc... that you want but do not bring a camera". There is absolutely no way that a single photo could get a secret source in trouble and would be one single shred of proof other than saying "I had access but can not say how due to legal issues".

I would believe the guy if there was ANY evidence at all to back it up, any. I do not care if a story makes sense, sounds reasonable, or follows a timeline. Con artists operate off of making up a good story to people who want to believe them every day (JUST TO MAKE PERFECTLY CLEAR THE INTENT OF THIS STATEMENT, I AM NOT IMPLYING HERE THAT CT IS A CON ARTIST OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN A GUY MAKING SOME NICE REPLICA SONICS, SO DO NOT BE A DINK AND TAKE MY WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT).

I (and most of us) have seen replicas that could pass for forgeries that were made from screen caps and publicity photos hundreds of times on this forum. A very good replica can be made by someone with a good eye using just those resources and does not in any way mean access to an original took place (Some times better because the replica looks like what we see on screen which the original props sometimes do not).

CT's Sonics look great, but what exactly is the point in continuing to attack Neil when he has posted proof photos and talked about everything any of us has asked for. Our own screen cap based analysis aside (we know how well that works for color matching), a licensed piece had to get inspected and approved by the BBC. Wouldn't someone have gone "hey this is totally the wrong color" at some point if it did not match the one they used for refrence to some degree :lol (Just Sayin). Why exactly would MFX just make up a color when they obviously (due to photo proof) had direct access to just look at the real one?

EFX Staff Meeting

Neil:
"Ok hear me out on this one, I know this is crazy but the piece we examined was gray but let go ahead and paint this *****er gold!!!!!. The prop collectors love it when you do stuff like this. What do you guys think?"

EFX Team response
:confused
​

Is this really reasonable or do all just like to argue?

I think we are being very unfair calling Neil a lier based on screen caps and photos of the sonic with the finish obviously heavily worn. The MFX is obviously made to look new and not beat up. If there are only three colors and one is out of the question, could it be the white worn white? Maybe, could it be the worn gold, maybe. Do we know exactly what either color looks like after it has been heavily used and striped and repainted over and over. My question is why would he not have just called Nick Robatto and asked what color paint he uses on them? Neil makes the alien effects for the show, Robatto is obviously on speed dial. It simple does not make any sense.

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

I have seen the props on exhibit over the last few years including the ones on display now. None of them are yellow but gray. They all have different emitters than the MFX version too. I don't care what CT claims. His product is very clearly far more accurate. We are still waiting for one single picture of a yellow sonic. If Gorton had access to such a prop the why has he not posted a picture of one in that color. It is ver clearly a White/gray color.

 

[phez]

I don't care what CT claims. His product is very clearly far more accurate.

They very well could be, I said they look great. That does not mean an examination of a real one was used as the reference. All I said is if a screen used one was used post a single photo and prove it, that's all. If a couple photos are posted, case closed. It does not detract from the quality or look of his Sonics one bit one way or the other.

The photo on the right looks like a faded dirty version of the MFX color the one on the left looks like a worn dirty white (they are the same sonic no?). If it is painted gray it matches the screen caps of the distressed unit but it does not mean it was not originally the gold color. There is nothing wrong with that, actually I like my props to look like the screen beat version. I just think this has turned into a witch hunt with some correct points and some that are speculation. Neil made the thing from examining a real one period. People are claiming the guy is not being truthful on the color. All of the Sonics are sold, MFX no longer sells props to the public, if he was not being honest why would he bother posting reference photos that he took of the real one. Another question, how did he get a photo of a real one with and without a flash in response to questions here? Does he perhaps own one of the real hero ones or at least have "hey can I take a photo of that quick" access to it.

I just want to know what the point to not painting it the correct color would be. Can anyone explain that to me?
How do we know what they were cleaned with, were they sprayed over the crackle with spray paint to touch them up at some point?
Are there photos of the ones you saw at the exhibit. Were to ones at the exhibit the hero sonics or back ground props?

 

[DrConstantine]

what photos are you referring to?

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

what photos are you referring to?

The ones above I think, which are clearly gray and under no circumstances heritage gold. Anyone that still thinks that the gold sonic was used on screen is deluded or ver blind. There has been no pictures at all or screencaps posted anywhere ever of that color being used. All the old sonic props on display and in exhibitions are whitey gray. Time to face the very obvious facts before you guys.

 

[phez]

deluded or ver blind

Guess I am deluded or blind :lol, the one on the right in that photo does not look plain gray to me. Again are there any good photos of the hero version from the exhibitions? I am just going on what I am seeing here of the unit that was used for reference for the MFX.

 

[Straker]

Ordered mine this morning! The site says a 2-3 week wait until it ships, but I've already been waiting this long so what's a couple more weeks?

Also, if anyone has any intentions at all of ordering a CT Tennant Sonic in Heritage Gold, you should let him know TODAY. Apparently there seems to be no demand for them, so he's getting them stripped down and repainted gray tomorrow.

I'm talking to you, Straker!

Well, here's the crux of the problem. See, I need to know that if he's not carrying the heritage Gold for a color, then I need to order a gray one. There is a reason for this but I will explain in another thread. I dun wanna hijack this thread as it's about the MFX Sonic however anyone with news on the Celestial Toystore sonic can post updates on my review thread for the Celestial Toystore sonic.

That aside Phez, I do wish someone would go to an exhibit and photo a slider type DT prop...only problem is that people will still argue the lighting. You made a comment about his accuracy claims for being somehow screen caps and such but really, again lack of proof is not proof that he had access to the slider prop from series 1. If you have your MFX type and you're happy with it then nothing he has to say will sway you. For many of the rest there are questions raised that they feel were not answered well enough for them. *shrugs* bit of a dead horse to argue it any further I think. At least for now anyway.

 

[Birdie]

Once again, the BBC prop guys stripped and repainted the heroes when they got grubby!

There is not a shred of evidence for heritage gold EVER having touched an official prop other than Gorton's claim that it has, and we KNOW he's a liar - he claims that the innacuracies of the MFX were due to a different version of the sonic being used to replicate, which we know to be bullcrap, since he outed himself showing photos of the prop he used, which were identical to the (accurate) prototype.

How do you explain that one, Phez?

Come on, the guy is dishonest. You're hanging onto what you want to be true, not what is.

 

[phez]

Once again, the BBC prop guys stripped and repainted the heroes when they got grubby!

There is not a shred of evidence for heritage gold EVER having touched an official prop other than Gorton's claim that it has, and we KNOW he's a liar - he claims that the innacuracies of the MFX were due to a different version of the sonic being used to replicate, which we know to be bullcrap, since he outed himself showing photos of the prop he used, which were identical to the (accurate) prototype.

How do you explain that one, Phez?

Come on, the guy is dishonest. You're hanging onto what you want to be true, not what is.

I do think the emitter head openings look wrong (centered instead of more toward the handle) but I am not sure about the color. The photo on the right looks like it is a worn down version of the color of the MFX.

Here is a screen cap from confidential that just looks to me like it is more of the tan/yellow color than it is grey (straight screen cap, no color alterations).

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

I do think the emitter head openings look wrong (centered instead of more toward the handle) but I am not sure about the color. The photo on the right looks like it is a worn down version of the color of the MFX.

Here is a screen cap from confidential that just looks to me like it is more of the tan/yellow color than it is grey (straight screen cap, no color alterations).

That's one of the Eccelston sonics. I think it's the Aztec static props and I don't think it's been painted properly. It's not really a straight comparison.

I think this is the prop shown:

 

[antigravity]

This topic definitely shows me to be a total lightweight.

I ordered one of the CT sonics this morning. I'm pretty excited for it -- to the point that the most intelligent thing I can think to say about it is "Light shiny. Noise buzzy."

Microns, feh. I can't wait to chase my cat with it.

 

[Asp9mm]

That picture is of the Aztec resin bodied sonic. These were not painted but cast in white resin. It is these sonics that are most often seen at exhibitions, although the heroes have been displayed too.


8=8

 

[VortexRunner]

I love the aztec prop - as cheap as it looks!!!! I wish CT would make a static one! CT's Series 3-4 sonic looks great!!!! and I own his 1-2 version - but I'm afraid I am now poor and do still love my battered MFX!

 

[Pastor Jedi]

I honestly could care less about the color, but the fact that CT's has sound and not just light attracted me. Not to mention it doesn't cost an arm and a leg and you can get them relatively quickly compared to most prop makers. It also comes with a nice case, and serial number. It is made out of stainless steel too.

 

[emeraldnite]

So something was bugging me about CT's season 3-4 sonic (which I ordered and can't wait for). I have a screen comparison between his latest photo and a grab from "The Eleventh Hour," and I swear it looks like the bevel right above the teeth(?) portion of the head is is angled more outwards onscreen then on his replica. I brought it to his attention and he gave me a long reply about it being an optical illusion and that the head hadn't changed from the Eccleston used sonics, but personally I don't think I am in the wrong. Anyways I have posted the image--am I crazy or do you guys see it too?

 

[VortexRunner]

I don't want to start anything as I own CT's season 1-2 replica and it is flawless - but I have to say that where the 'teeth' are on the 3-4 version, it does look more angled on the prop in the pic. I don't want to offend CT, it could just be an optical illusion? this thread was purely meant to talk about the MFX replica. I think I prefer the thicker if 'wrong', dimensions of the MFX but if people decide to buy CT's version, I have nothing against them - CT's will have sound and is a very durable replica!!!!

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

So something was bugging me about CT's season 3-4 sonic (which I ordered and can't wait for). I have a screen comparison between his latest photo and a grab from "The Eleventh Hour," and I swear it looks like the bevel right above the teeth(?) portion of the head is is angled more outwards onscreen then on his replica. I brought it to his attention and he gave me a long reply about it being an optical illusion and that the head hadn't changed from the Eccleston used sonics, but personally I don't think I am in the wrong. Anyways I have posted the image--am I crazy or do you guys see it too?

It looks to me like the angle is the culprit. The top pic is angled with the left hand side slightly towards the camera so you are looking at the head from slightly below it. The lower pic is taken side on. Other than that, the head looks pretty much spot on.

 

[emeraldnite]

VortexRunner, I agree I also like the thicker dimension of the MFX one if the CT one is indeed thinner, but the sound should make up for that. I am just annoyed I will probably never get the best of both in one =P

LeAngSolitaire, CT told me it was the angle too, but I really don't think changing the tilt angle changes the look of the width of the head because that should stay constant relative to the neck width. I'm still excited to get his version regardless and have it sit next to my MFX one, where I can obsess in the comfort of my bedroom (>_<)

 

[VortexRunner]

this is interesting - look close at the pic of the real prop and I think there is no ring as stated earlier in the thread - there supposedly is - but I think apart from the dimensions of the window - the MFX looks closer - I may be wrong either way - it's just what I am seeing in the dark