Medieval armour pep files?
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somnambulus
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I have spent some time looking around for them, but I always end up finding replicas of other sorts. I think there is so much in terms of LARP and re-enactment that medieval-pep hasn't taken off the same way Iron-man or video-game pep has. I duno, maybe I am wrong and just haven't looked in the right places, but the closest I have gotten is finding World of Warcraft armour.
Lflank
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Brilliant! I wouldn't have even thought of this, and I was in the SCA for years. BTW, you hit me with a blast from the past-one of the helmets was patterned by my Barony's baron, a friend who passed away a few years ago. Thanks!
bentherogue
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What kind of armor specifically are you interested in? I'm a reenactor and in SCA but new to the rpf. May I can help?
I was basically looking for any kind of knight's armour-arms, legs, pauldrons, etc-Lflank has suggested a good page with SCA armour drawings that should prove quite useful, but by all means, if you know any other, let's share it with the forum!
Lflank
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SmilingOtter
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Some more patterns here - Armour Projects and Patterns
And purchasable patterns - Armouring and Metalworking
And purchasable patterns - Armouring and Metalworking
bentherogue
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The site on the armour archive is a good source for basic patterns. The entire forum is also a very good resource with lots of helpful individuals. If you post in the "design and construction" forum and explain what you're making people with actual patterns and more expertise than myself should be willing to help.
bentherogue
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The Armour Archive ? View topic - Buy two, get one free sale on Talbot's downloadable books!
Check out this thread. Talbot is a well-known and respected armourer and researcher, and he's having a sale on his pattern books right now.
Check out this thread. Talbot is a well-known and respected armourer and researcher, and he's having a sale on his pattern books right now.
maverick1255
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Great resources!! Thank you
Lflank
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I'm working up a script for a fan film involving a Predator, a couple of Crusader knights, and a Saracen warrior. So for costumes I'm planning on making some of these armors from posterboard coated with either PVA or fiberglass resin. I do all my fan films solo and play all the characters myself, so I need costumes with helmets to hide my face so people don't know it's me inside them all. 
Essentially the armor costumes will be disposable, and can be discarded after shooting is done. (I already got two rooms full of costumes and props, and just don't have space for any more.)
And yes, I know that Crusaders didn't wear plate armor, but that is alas the image that everyone already has of a "knight".
Essentially the armor costumes will be disposable, and can be discarded after shooting is done. (I already got two rooms full of costumes and props, and just don't have space for any more.)And yes, I know that Crusaders didn't wear plate armor, but that is alas the image that everyone already has of a "knight".
bentherogue
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How worried are you about being historically accurate? If you're trying to do a Crusader outfit from the 12th century or so, it wouldn't be that hard to create the look. All you need is a long surcoat, mail shirt, and a greathelm. I know there's a pattern on the archive for a greathelm that works well and that would hide your face.
Check out "Kingdom of Heaven" for inspiration. Then let me know how interested you are in accuracy and I can guide you a bit more. Certain pieces may actually be easier to buy out of metal than making out of paper and covering.
Check out "Kingdom of Heaven" for inspiration. Then let me know how interested you are in accuracy and I can guide you a bit more. Certain pieces may actually be easier to buy out of metal than making out of paper and covering.
Lflank
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Oh, I've done the accuracy---I have a mail shirt that I made myself, and a Great Helm (Pembroke Style) that I made myself out of sheet metal.
The thing is that in the public's mind, it ain't "a knight in armor" unless it is wearing plate armour (which is why John Boorman used plate in "Excalibur".)
I'll need at least 2 or 3 costumes for the movie (plus the Saracen), and each will need a totally different look so people will be able to tell the characters apart. So one will be an authentic Crusader Knight--the rest won't be. "Movie-making" and "accuracy" seldom go well together.
EDIT: I suppose I could use the Great Helm and mail for all of them and just have each character in a different surcoat--Hospitaller, Malta, Templar--but alas in my last fan film I found that people have tremendous difficulty telling which character is which unless they all look radically different, especially their heads. At minimum, I'll need completely different helms for each character (a sallet for one, a barbute for another).
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bentherogue
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Oh, I've done the accuracy---I have a mail shirt that I made myself, and a Great Helm (Pembroke Style) that I made myself out of sheet metal.
The thing is that in the public's mind, it ain't "a knight in armor" unless it is wearing plate armour (which is why John Boorman used plate in "Excalibur".)
I'll need at least 2 or 3 costumes for the movie (plus the Saracen), and each will need a totally different look so people will be able to tell the characters apart. So one will be an authentic Crusader Knight--the rest won't be. "Movie-making" and "accuracy" seldom go well together.
Awesome!
I understand what the public expects is rarely correct, but coming from the historical and academic community, I always hope for more. Don't get me started on the new "Vikings" show.
For differentiating between crusaders, it would be very easy to do with the same armor. Just change out surcoats for different heraldry. Give one character a polearm instead of sword and shield, and give them all different color surcoats, and voila, different characters!
You could probably even get away with only having one helmet if you add extra dirt/wear marks for different characters.
But don't let me take away from your vision. I don't in any way mean to disparage what you're doing, just hoping to help. :$
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