Materials, Time and Creativity

Matt,

First of all, well done on the article. :)

Second, I am absolutely a reformed consumer/customer due to my experiences building my own stuff since becoming fully engrossed in this hobby a couple years ago.

For a long, long time I was interested in things like a replica of Han Solo in carbonite but was astonished at the cost of purchasing such a thing from someone. I simply couldn't justify the cost & thought that it was outrageous to think that someone would pay thousands of dollars for such a thing when someone could just pour a bunch of latex over it and make a copy~!

Then, as I got involved in making these things myself, getting wrapped up in the joy of creating these things, the time taken to assemble something properly, the passion that takes you past the idea of 'good enough' to the point of 'better than expected' & in some cases to 'just like the one in the movie' - I began to realize that many times the items folks make are worth far MORE than they're asking.

Folks are trying to make these little tidbits of imagination born into the world through hard work & hard spent dollars available to other folks who love them...without completely losing their shorts doing it. I absolutely GET that now.

The longer I'm involved with this hobby here on the RPF, the more respect I gain for the artistry of the individuals who do the work to make some amazing things.

Their efforts are certainly worth more than the cost of raw materials & are - to folks who appreciate them - works of art which have a value more than just a monetary one since they really do capture the moment in time when you first encountered something like Doc Brown's flux capacitor or Deckard's blaster.

I don't know about anyone else but every time I wander into the room where I've put all these little pieces of pleasant memory brought to life, I'm hard pressed not to strain the muscles that keep a persistent smile on my face.

:)

Thanks for writing the article, sir. Well put, well said.
 
This is why I will not deal with anyone about making something for anyone when I have been asked. I couldn't be compensated enough. I did it once, but never again. I will share my knowledge with anyone who will ask on how I made a prop. I will encourage them to make the effort to do it themselves. To me, that is what this forum is all about.

That's what I basically said on my website to discorage people from e-mailing me about building them a lightsaber (when my e-mail was still on the page, it was a spam magnet and my ISP's spam filter sucked). Even the most reasonable price might seem a bit much once they got my artfully crafed crap in their hot little hands. Heck, even knowing what went into it I might not want to pay what some of my stuff is "worth".

I think even here we fall victim to that mentality. Whenever someone creates some well crafted whatsit, there's the question of "Will there be a run? followed by the inevitable "Interested, depending on price." The crazy things is it's often in a WIP thead where you've basically just been given detailed instructions on how to do it yourself.

So, you know what? If you think it's worth that much...? Go ahead and try to sell it for that much. Just keep in mind that not everyone may agree with you, and the truth is, they're right. Nothing is worth anything, not the materials, the time took to make it, or even the artistic know how, until you sell it.
 
I think a major problem is that most people don't make anything any more. Everyone's had that thought, 'I could make that' often I have made things myself, and have been proud of them, but it always takes a lot of time to learn and get it right. I don't think I've ever, 'done it cheaper'. But at least now I know, where as most people never bother to try.
 
I think a lot of customers are unable to value their OWN time.

When they say "Hey, I could make that myself," they aren't thinking of the amount of time they would spend doing that, plus all the little tools and supplies, plus dealing with the mess, plus the potential for injuries, etc., etc.

When they do get a sense of all this is when they make an informed choice, between "It is worth spending a little money not to go through some of that," and "I know what it is going to take but what I want out of it is the pleasure of doing it myself."
 
There have already been a mountain of comments on this thread, so I won't blab on with my own as most of the best points were made. Mostly I would just like to thank Matt for a well written, and spot on article. You nailed it sir! Thank you!
 
Well said Matt.

One of my pet peeves is people trying to get the maker to come down in price, especially when it is a hard replica to do.

Depending on what it is I usually call them out on it! :lol
 
Just about every aspect of this topic can be answered with "If you don't like the price make it yourself". Nobody's forcing you to buy anything.
 
When they say "Hey, I could make that myself," they aren't thinking of the amount of time they would spend doing that, plus all the little tools and supplies, plus dealing with the mess, plus the potential for injuries, etc., etc.

Exactly. A lot of things I know I could build myself, but I also know that the learning curve required to figure out how to build something would cost more in time and materials than what someone is asking. Although you can also argue that learning how to do it yourself is worth more.


I don't build things to sell because I take way too long building them, but I have had people, usually new members, ask how much I would want for an item I posted. I then get the "I could make that myself for that much!" response and I just say "Good luck and have fun..."
 
Hey just wanted to thank everyone for their feedback and insights. Great thread, and I'm super stoked to know that my blog post resonated with so many folks. it's now my most viewed blog post EVER by a real long stretch! That's awesome!

I have no idea how I'm going to top it, so I probably won't even try :D
 
Two words can top your last post.

Shirtless Matt. Photos of you shirtless.

Come on ladies, are you with me?!??!?!?!?



:thumbsup

Hey just wanted to thank everyone for their feedback and insights. Great thread, and I'm super stoked to know that my blog post resonated with so many folks. it's now my most viewed blog post EVER by a real long stretch! That's awesome!

I have no idea how I'm going to top it, so I probably won't even try :D
 
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