Man of Steel (Pre-release)

[Jack T Chance]

I believe the "Aura" thing was first used when Byrne remade the Man of Steel in the 80s. Professor Hamilton discovered it while he was doing tests on Superman.

Preee-cisely.

Guys, again, this ISN'T a remake of the origin from the old movies, or TV shows... this is a BRAND NEW ADAPTATION SPECIFICALLY BASED ON THE "NEW 52" COMICS.

I finally flipped through a "New 52" graphic novel depicting Supes' early days. He originally wears a homemade costume consisting of a blue T-shirt with the "S shield" symbol, blue jeans, work boots, and the red cape...

...then Braniac attacks Earth, and while on Braniac's ship, Superman finds a Kryptonian "battle armor" outfit, which is at first pure white. As soon as he puts it on, it "morphs" specifically for him, adopting his trademark color scheme and "S shield" symbol, becoming the "New 52" Superman costume...

DC & Warner Brothers, along with Zach Snyder, have made the final Man of Steel movie conform to some of the "New 52" ideas, thus the costume in the movie is also Kryptonian battle armor, just like in the current comics.

In much the same way that the Christopher Reeve movies were adaptations of the Silver Age/Bronze Age Superman story, for better or worse, Man of Steel is an adaptation of the "New 52" version of Superman's story. While some things will be different as with any adaptation (different design direction for the costume, redheaded Lois) some things are the same. Anyone who's seen the trailers has seen images of a young Clark wearing blue jeans, a T-shirt, and a red cape. The movie's costume designer didn't copy the "New 52" costume exactly, and thank the maker for that! At least in the movie, the "pseudo belt" is golden. The red belt on the "New 52" version just throws off the whole costume for me. :unsure

 

[IMIM2]

Thank you for the info.
Pffff. I feel old now.
I didn't know there are so many versions.
Apologize my ignorance.

So even the comic book have reboot.

IMHO, the suit looks great, except for the belt. If it is yellow, probably will look better. I like the triangular bottom of the cape, although I find it a bit too short.

 

[DuneMuadDib]

The comic's had a few reboots. Crisis on Infinite Earths hard reset everything to unify the continuity that'd gotten complicated with all the parallel Earths. A sequel called Infinite Crisis came out several years ago that was a soft rest that really only tweaked bits of the continuity and (as revealed in 52) reintroduced the multiverse. Then we got Flashpoint a year and a half ago which was a hard reboot for some characters (Superman for example) and a soft reboot for others (Batman, Green Lantern).

 

[Jet Beetle]

If it's true this movie is being crafted to sidecar the new Superman in The New 52 - then I am totally removed from this film. The new 52 is terrible IMO - DC is the most rebooted universe ever - Zero Hour being the only one I enjoyed.

I can't stand fads - and this "new" Superman is nothing but that. His armor looks the same as what they put Batman and The Flash in - like they passed them out at the last Justice League meeting. They're trying so hard to fit Superman into something that he's not. Superman doesn't really belong to DC anymore - he belongs to the world. He and Mickey Mouse are the most recognized characters on the planet and sometimes I think DC has no idea how to handle it. Everytime and I mean EVERYTIME they have tried to reboot or refashion Superman over time he reverts back to his iconic image. last time around they even brought back Krypto. Superman should be the one character that always knows what to do - filled with confidence or determination - they do it with bad guys, why not one good one. Ever see Doctor Doom scratch his head and ponder his place in the world - NO, because he has conviction - Superman used to have that but now DC wants to be Marvel so badly they don't bother to realize that some characters are above the life problems of a Peter Parker or Tony Stark. I know they're attempting to build a relatability factor but reading or watching those who are the better than the best is what causes inspiration. And all of us could use some of that now and then.

 

[DuneMuadDib]

I think DC's run into a bit of a problem with how to handle Superman. If he's at his Silver Age power levels there's no sense of danger because nothing can hurt him but people are used to that being the norm so any time his power is reduced it creeps back up where it was. If he's a boy scout he's boring because he's infallible, but if they make him more "relatable" fans cry it's character assassination (guilty of this myself re: Earth One). With such a push towards dark, gritty realism in pop culture DC's probably feeling even more that they have to emulate Marvel's fallibility in their heroes. It worked in the short term, as DC actually was outselling Marvel for a few months, but it's settled back to roughly where the market was before the reboot.

Before the reboot I was reading Superman. JMS was doing a wonderful concept of having Superman get back to his '30s roots by walking America and reconnecting with the citizens and helping the everyman. Of course he stopped writing halfway through to focus on more of his Superman: Earth One garbage, but it was finished by another writer. It was a bold choice to make for the series, but ended up being meaningless since Flashpoint hit right after. The one part that stood out was Superman confronting a guy who was going to jump off a building. He talked the guy down, and afterwards was asked by the cops if he'd have really have let the guy jump like he'd said while talking the guy down. Superman told them if the guy had jumped and he caught him it wouldn't have solved the problem. Not what you'd expect from Superman, but it felt genuine to me.

It's too bad about the DC reboot, the universe has gotten a lot less optimistic and that's a big part of why I read DC but not Marvel. Marvel's just gotten so dark in the past 10 years, I wish DC wasn't trying to emulate them. Maybe we'll get lucky and when Pandora opens the her box again it'll undo the reboot.

Superman wearing armor doesn't in and of itself bother me, but I do hate that if you took away the emblems and colors you couldn't tell his from Batman, Flash, or Green Lantern's costumes. With at least the Justice League redesigned by Jim Lee I suppose we should be thankful they're all not wearing trench coats and have superfluous straps and buckles everywhere.

 

[Mektar]

He can be hurt tho. But problem is that apart from the kryptonite weakness DC doesnt want to show actual characters that can hurt or even manage to kill him. Now with Zod in the picture who also is Kryptonian we might see the MOS actually get hurt.

 

[DuneMuadDib]

I was exaggerating. He's also weak to magic, so Shazam could give him a run for his money. My point stands though, outside the ridiculously plentiful green rock he's never in danger so who cares? The closest they can get to making it interesting is putting others in danger so it's more an issue of if Superman can save everyone rather than if he'll get an owwie.

 

[Jet Beetle]

Actually Captain Marvel ( Shazam) should be able to beat him before his Cup O Noodles are even ready.

 

[crabra comander]

Cris Angel will be his greatest foe.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

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[rodneyfaile]

Marvel characters have huge flaws, and how they deal with those flaws is what makes them interesting to me.

I find Superman inspiring. The concept is less compelling because of how powerfull he is, but the fact that he always rises above, he is the ultimate good guy.

For example, I'd rather see how Tony Stark deals with alcoholism, but that John Williams score hits me because I know it represents a symbol of always doing what's right despite how difficult.

 

[rodneyfaile]

I love the end of Kill Bill when Bill interprets Superman/Clark.

Kill Bill vol 2 Superman monologue - YouTube

 

[Jedi2016]

I love the end of Kill Bill when Bill interprets Superman/Clark.

Kill Bill vol 2 Superman monologue - YouTube

I love that scene, and for the most part, it's true. The one moment I liked in Superman Returns was near the beginning, when he was alone on the farm, watching the sunrise. In that one shot, he's neither Superman nor Clark Kent, he's just.. himself. All defenses down, just a guy watching the sun rise. That, and some of the scenes with him and Ma Kent, where he could just be himself and didn't have to hide behind either persona. Not nearly so bumbling as Clark, but much more down-to-earth and less reserved than Superman. I really liked seeing that part of him.

 

[MooMooEgg]

I love the end of Kill Bill when Bill interprets Superman/Clark.

Kill Bill vol 2 Superman monologue - YouTube

I hated how he generalized the artwork, as if there was only one artist ever drawing Superman...

 

[DuneMuadDib]

Actually Captain Marvel ( Shazam) should be able to beat him before his Cup O Noodles are even ready.

He's just Shazam now in the New 52. Since Marvel owns the rights to the name Captain Marvel DC had to advertise their Captain Marvel as Shazam, and they decided that since so many people thought Shazam was his name anyway just make that his name in the reboot. How he can identify himself as Shazam without transforming hasn't been explained so far as I've seen :lol

I was rolling my eyes at that scene in Kill Bill. I'll buy into a middle ground of Clark and Superman both being masks he wears at his reporter job and his superhero job though.

 

[Mektar]

and they decided that since so many people thought Shazam was his name anyway just make that his name in the reboot.

Lol must have been real fans :lol

 

[EyeofSauron]

worst cover ever

it looks like supes is hiding behind lois and looking at someone like: what you gonna do now that i got my mom?

terrible terrible representation

 

[NakedMoleRat]

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[DuneMuadDib]

Photo's almost narmy. The suit really needs something to break up the blue. Looked okay when he was crouching but full body it needs something at the waist for contrast.

 

[Jet Beetle]

I'll always call him Captain Marvel - the character that CC BECK drew.

And that suit needs the red undies - God, look at that plastic piece of dulled crap. That's NOT Superman. It's the Superman that only the man who made Sucker Punch and the studio that brought you Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern would come up with. Oh well...