M-31 Firefox, scale plane replica

Martin-El

Well-Known Member
I so want one of these it hurts -
Please keep us updated as it even in these early stages - it looks teriffic.
 

Beagle Bill

Well-Known Member
Dude!

This is uncanny. I was fixing to e-mail you and ask you how your Firefox was coming along! I'm in your yahoo group. It looks awesome! Will it have a cockpit? I've been following your progress for a couple of years on your website. It's looking really great! I've been wanting one of these babies since the movie came out. What do you think the cost will be?

Bill

P.S. Now you just need a 1/36 scale Clint Eastwood to go with it...
 

Firefoxm31

Sr Member
Hi all,
It will have all details from film including fully realized cockpit, missle bays, engine details, pitot tubes, speed brakes, wing speed brakes, rearward defense pods, machine guns under center intake. It will also have the option of doing studio style intakes or open ones revealing mock twin Turmansky engine turbines...up to builder of commisioned piece.Also hope to have option for full undercarriage and landing gear, detailed bay doors and all...
 
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JediG60racer

Sr Member
Very cool. I'm in the yahoogroup too, but haven't checked in there for awhile. Do you have an interest list started yet for when you're done with these?
 

Firefoxm31

Sr Member
Hi again,
Interest list hmm.....well everybody on the group seems so but we'll see...lots and lots of details to do yet, but she'll be a wonderful replica when finished..
William
 
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Firefoxm31

Sr Member
Well,
I saw the movie when I was a teenager in 1982, always waited for the plane to be produced as a kit, never was. I started making models and flying rockets of it (modified from a "d"powered Black Brant 3 of all things). Anyway, I used to make all kinds of models of it, waited for it to show up on TV, then made sketches and such of the details and general shape. Later in college I learned to use CAD. before that point I had been hand drawing everything, including my Nautilus pics. My cad drawing was drawn, redrawn and kept changing as I acquired more and more information about the plane. The laser disc came out and I traced it off the TV (sound familiar). about 1996 or so I talked to a gentleman that as a kid had actually talked to the original studio that made the effects miniatures, Apogee. The guys at the shop were so enthralled that someone had contacted them. they sent him a set of studio drawings..this is the short version of this story ..Anyway, I found contact with this guy and he agreed to send me a set of these drawings. There were nine drawings detailing every aspect of the plane, including the detailed turkey feather patterns for the engine nozzles. The drawings provided development patterns for the nozzle itself. Then there were the McDonnell Douglas Phantom F4-E landing gear drawings, and a ducted fan placement and wing rib drawings for the radio control flying model fox's made for the film. The most important drawing of all to me, was a close up of the nose showing the faceted shape of the plane (this is where all models replicas have gone wrong to date) top view, front view, and side view. Then, on separate drawing, there was the side detail elevation of the plane drawn a a smaller scale including all intakes, landing gear and undercarriage. another drawing sheet had the landing gear bay doors with the double panel and detailed inserts. This is stuff that Fox fans drool over if they like details. Four years later in year 2000, I got in contact with someone that knew about a 63" Firefox model that still existed, long story short, was able to get about 40 photos of it. OK now I have all my reference I would ever need.
I Started back up my cad drawing and proceeded to trace the Fox right off the plans as the shape was exact to what they ended up with for the film. Then I took all my photos and referenced certain points for certain details. This allowed me to transfer all details from the "hero" 63" straight to my drawings, panels, wing brakes, speed brakes, rearward defense pods, tail drone and chute unit, landing gear and under carriage, virtually every detail necessary to model this plane to the likeness of the film "hero." Then with countless hours and a later released DVD version of Firefox, a friend and total Firefox fanatic, Adam and I went back and forth detailing the entire cockpit as per film, calling out common used pieces of equipment, from the F 4 Phantom. I then transferred this information to the CAD drawings for pattern making. This is the plane currently under development should be a real pretty plane replica when finished. I will keep those interested advised of it's progress. I hope to attend my first Wonderfest this year, and will hope to bring a finished plane with me, and perhaps a few other surprises..we'll see.
Best,
William
 

Martin-El

Well-Known Member
Absolutely fascinating -
I could always see there was something odd about both the Studio 2 and Planet X versions...
What is the scale of your current replica and do you have an anticipated timeframe/cost in mind?

Please do keep us appraised of your work!
 

Firefoxm31

Sr Member
Well,
It will be 1/32 scale actually, making it 23 5/8" long..nice large scale allowing for super detailing.
 
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Keith

Sr Member
Very cool! I would love a model firefox plane.

I went to a small shop that deals with vintage star wars and action man toys here in the UK about 5 years ago and the shop owner had quite a large model of the firefox for sale for £100. He said it was resin and was used in the film.
I didn't know much about screen used props at the time though, so i didn't buy it


Keith.
 

Firefoxm31

Sr Member
was the name of the shop Comet Miniatures, and the guys name tony James? no accurate models of the plane to date i will change this little dilema
you probably saw the infamouse Studio 2 resin replica 1/48th scale sorta
William
 

Keith

Sr Member
I don't know the guys name or the name of the shop. The small shop was set inside the Coliseum here in Manchester which i think has shut down now.
The model was a lot bigger than 1/48th scale though, looked more like 1/32nd to me at least.

Keith.
 

Firefoxm31

Sr Member
1/48 would make this model 16" long the only other thing he could have had thanks to monsters in motion (not the first time they've taken someone elses piece and sent it over there to recast) is my studio casting 21" model the one i'm doing will be even bigger at 1/32 scale making it 23 5/8" long
with the "hero" as a match. will no disputing if someone recasts this one
Best,
William
 

Firefoxm31

Sr Member
Ha...Ha Dave, not sure of the year , help me out..... lol
Wolvster1,
hope to have this ready to mold by end of May. I hope to take the patterns or better yet,a casting, to Wonderfest
Best,
William
 

Wolvster1

Sr Member
Gone but not forgotten.
Wonderfest you say ??? :thumbsup

That would be pretty COOL, this
is going to be the first time I have EVER been
to one this year. REALLY looking forward to it .
Now, with seeing one of those it's REALLY better ...
B)
 

Firefoxm31

Sr Member
PICS update! still lots of details and she does break down into sub-assemblies..getting there!
William
 
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