Luna's Ultimate Spider-Man Build, Orhadar Print. [Pic Heavy]

[MattAucoin]

Hey, I was wondering if the markers you used ran at all when/ if the suit got wet. I tested a piece of the same fabric with the same marker on it in water, and it bled horribly. Is this because it takes awhile to dry? Or should I avoid getting the dye-sub wet? Thanks in advance.

 

[Lunaman]

Hey, I was wondering if the markers you used ran at all when/ if the suit got wet. I tested a piece of the same fabric with the same marker on it in water, and it bled horribly. Is this because it takes awhile to dry? Or should I avoid getting the dye-sub wet? Thanks in advance.

Haha, you have to let the ink set first, yes, it takes some time to dry. I've washed my suit dozens of times and none of the webbing has bled.

 

[noblesseoblige]

WOW that is an incredible costume...the pose just adds to it. I just happily purchased a mask/lens tasm2 combo from Tjack....pretty excited about that and I'm looking forward to your tutorial Lunaman. I hope my costume can look half as good as this one...wow again
:thumbsup

I got pretty good results using Dye-Na-Flow by Jaquard with the Airfix additive to catalyze and set the dye without heat. Here's the result on my ASM2 suit, which I'm working on making a tutorial for (it's just taking a really long time because of how complicated the build was and figuring out how to explain it with pictures):

http://i.imgur.com/Vq948Dl.jpg

 

[Lunaman]

WOW that is an incredible costume...the pose just adds to it. I just happily purchased a mask/lens tasm2 combo from Tjack....pretty excited about that and I'm looking forward to your tutorial Lunaman. I hope my costume can look half as good as this one...wow again
:thumbsup

Thanks!

 

[Rhum]

Is there a sewing guide somewhere for Orhadar's print?
I'm almost done Puffpainting it, and im confused a little bit on the sewing part.

 

[Lunaman]

Is there a sewing guide somewhere for Orhadar's print?
I'm almost done Puffpainting it, and im confused a little bit on the sewing part.

Here's a basic overview of how the pelting layout fits together that you can take to an experienced seamstress, seamster or tailor who can help you understand the sewing. If you don't have sewing experience yourself, be forewarned that this is not an easy task, what with the knit fabric, the pattern alignment, the glove construction, and the custom length invisible zippers. It's challenging even for people who are very talented with a needle, but the layout is fairly straightforward.


Egon Spengler has a thread about learning to assemble the pattern, as well.

 

[Thwipper]

Mr. Luna, actually I prefer Mr. MoonSpider (considering I first "met" you via your Imgur page),

Let me start by saying that like many others here you are the inspiration for my build. I have an 8 year old autistic stepson and am very active in the special needs community. My wife is the lead nurse on the Bone Marrow Transplant Unit of our local Children's Hospital. Needless to say, I see a lot of sorrow, pain, and hopelessness among these children and their families. A lot of the special needs children are considered outcasts and have very few or no friends. The children at my wife's work are very sick. Their hospital room will be the last place some of them ever see. These kids, they need something to smile about, a friend, someone special to lift the dark clouds of the world they inhabit if only for a moment. So, I've taken it upon myself to (in the words of Gwen) "become a symbol of hope" and as True Believers we all know what that means.

When I took to the net to start my research, I guess I started where most do; Halloween/rental costumes. It quickly became apparent that these cheap bastardizations were just not going to cut it, so I took the next logical step and googled "custom Spider-Man suit" and lo and behold there was your Ultimate build in all it's immaculate glory. I immediately knew THAT was what I was looking for.

I've been doing my research the past few weeks and I've learned some invaluable tips thanks to you and others here. Just to cover a few of the basics:
"Don't buy from zentai-zentai, they're crooks"
"The frames aren't meant to sit in the recesses of the face shell"
"Build shoes into your suit"
"Don't go cheap on a seamstress"
"One person can manage a U-zip with some contortion, but it takes two people for a straight back"
"I literally covered that on the first page"
And my favorite "How do you get to it?! You are IN TJack's junkyard thread..."

I know this seems like a ramble, but I wanted you to know how you've inspired me, the journey I've been on with my research, and the fun it's brought.

With all that out of the way, your Ultimate suit is Spectacular. It looks like you stepped right out of the pages of the book and you wear it well. So, here's my dilemma: I've fallen in love with TJack's new ASM2 face-shell/lenses combo kit, but the lenses to mask ratio on your build is part of what makes it look so great and authentic and I can't decide what to do...

I know you have both, so do you have side by side comparison shots of the new combo lenses with the older, oversized ASM2's?

Is there a way to rig the new face shell or the older frames to be compatible with each other for easy swap outs?

 

[Lunaman]

With all that out of the way, your Ultimate suit is Spectacular. It looks like you stepped right out of the pages of the book and you wear it well. So, here's my dilemma: I've fallen in love with TJack's new ASM2 face-shell/lenses combo kit, but the lenses to mask ratio on your build is part of what makes it look so great and authentic and I can't decide what to do...

I know you have both, so do you have side by side comparison shots of the new combo lenses with the older, oversized ASM2's?

Is there a way to rig the new face shell or the older frames to be compatible with each other for easy swap outs?

Thanks for the impassioned message, Twipper, you seem really dedicated and I appreciate your kind words even if I don't think I deserve all of them--I'm just a guy who wanted to play dress up and took some photos along the way.

You can see some comparison examples in this post below, but I also finagled a side by side photo, which was harder to do than I expected. The budget lenses have better visibility, but the lens material is prone to crinkling or creasing over time unless you back it with something like a steel mesh. The shell and lens set is really pretty, but not very easy to see out of.
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=185367&page=11&p=3256374&viewfull=1#post3256374

For eyes you can swap, what you could do is get the shell and lens kit and assemble it normally, then get the large lenses as well and follow Iron Joe's tutorial to make the large lenses sit flush again the faceshell and install a second set of magnets to the shell to allow both lenses to work.
http://www.therpf.com/f78/updated-i...mbiote-diy-magnetic-face-shell-lenses-209315/

Here's that quick comparison photo:


As for an example of what the comic print looks like with the shell and lens combo, check out this Canadian costumer who did just that:

I think it works quite well.

 

[Thwipper]

Awesome, thank you so much for this response.

I had seen your other thread about the lenses and knew there was a size difference, but wasn't sure how much of one. After seeing your side by side shot it's actually quite larger than I had imagined. That shot is exactly what I've been looking for, so thanks for taking it.

The Iron Joe thread is also exactly what I've been looking for. Extra magnets was the remedy I had concluded in my head, so it's great to see someone has successfully accomplished it and mapped out the process.

You're right the combo kit does look excellent with the comic print as evidenced by the Canadian, but there's just no beating the oversized lenses as far as authenticity goes. I plan on replicating Grampsee's Symbiote build later down the road, so the sleekness of the combo kit will come in handy for that.

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions so thoroughly and posting the pictures. It was everything I have been looking for, so I apologize for derailing your thread and I'll let everyone get back to praising the awesomeness that is this suit now. Thanks again though.

 

[Lunaman]

You're welcome, Thwipper, and no need to apologize for asking your questions.

 

[pandabearaaron]

Any idea where I could obtain a face shell? I am sort of on a budget, for the most part however, I do want to make a quality costume. I was interested in Tjack's faceshell and lens combo, however that for me is a slightly hefty price tag. The more budget friendly lenses, the ones you used for this particular costume, are great. I'm just unsure as to where to get a faceshell that would look nice with the suit. I really love your tutorial, and your suit, it's really radical. I plan to try and get this costume finished before halloween. Your help is very much greatly appreciated.

 

[Lunaman]

Any idea where I could obtain a face shell? I am sort of on a budget, for the most part however, I do want to make a quality costume. I was interested in Tjack's faceshell and lens combo, however that for me is a slightly hefty price tag. The more budget friendly lenses, the ones you used for this particular costume, are great. I'm just unsure as to where to get a faceshell that would look nice with the suit. I really love your tutorial, and your suit, it's really radical. I plan to try and get this costume finished before halloween. Your help is very much greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the kind words.
You can get a universal faceshell from TJack for much less than the combo set (which costs more because of all the extra labor, parts, and research). A good faceshell is usually $60+. Or you can make your own. Or if you have really angular bone structure in your face, you can wear no shell at all (I didn't wear one for this suit.) I only used the shell as a buck to form the lenses on when I heated and curved them, but you can get creative and use something else, as long as it matches the way your face forms a domed shape beneath the fabric.

http://www.therpf.com/f75/tjacks-universal-face-shell-asm2-option-now-available-189312/

 

[Mattpalmer630]

I'm new to the rpf, but your suit inspired me to start costuming! Amazing!

 

[Lunaman]

I'm new to the rpf, but your suit inspired me to start costuming! Amazing!

Cool! Welcome aboard and thanks very much!

 

[nosnegrom]

How do you curve the lens frames? To fit your face?

 

[Lunaman]

How do you curve the lens frames? To fit your face?

By heating them up on a stove and molding them to a pre-made faceshell. Did you read the tutorial on the first page?

 

[nosnegrom]

Ya i was just wondering if there was a way to do it if you don't have a face shell. Forgot to include that in the post

 

[Lunaman]

Ya i was just wondering if there was a way to do it if you don't have a face shell. Forgot to include that in the post

As I mentioned a few posts above this, you don't have to use the faceshell for forming (though the majority of people will benefit from using one), you can get creative and use anything that matches the way your face forms a domed shape beneath the fabric. You can get a mask base from a craft store and sculpt on top of it, you can modify a child's facemask from a toy story, you can mold your own face directly with tinfoil and back it with clay macho to make it rigid, all sorts of things. As long as it's a reasonable degree of curvature and a proper compound curve (don't mold on a cylindrical surface, for instance.)

 

[jarradfx]

Your Ultimate Spidey suit is very very awesome! Your physique suits it perfectly!

 

[Lunaman]

Your Ultimate Spidey suit is very very awesome! Your physique suits it perfectly!

Thanks very much!