Luke ROTJ functional control box help

[Mofritz6]

I have recently decided to make a Luke ROTJ lightsaber. After spending a lot of time pondering over whether I should make the hero or the v2, i decided to make the hero body with an unscrewable control box, and an aluminum replacement part for the brass thin neck. I decided as an easter egg that I would try to make the hero control box functional, such that when you press the black button, the green and red LED's flash and a speaker plays the same way they did in the deleted scene. I plan on using the KR sabers
"Luke Hero ROTJ PCB Control Box Kit"
https://thesaberarmory.com/listing/493658237/luke-hero-rotj-pcb-control-box-kit

The main problems that I am running into are:
I don't have any idea haw to sequence led's and add a sound without a sound card
I want to confine the electronics to the control box, but I am open to an in hilt speaker with wire connectors to the control box
I have little experience with electronics(I can solder, but have no idea how to determine what electronics should be used)

Thanks to anyone willing to help!

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

Im in a similar boat. I want to gave a hero where the lights sequence like they do in the cut scene- flashing red until you touch the tac switch and it becomes flashing green. But i dont know how to set up a timer in so small a space.

 

[Mofritz6]

In reading another thread, I saw that you might have a slightly damaged Luke Rotj light saber pommel spare. If you have another I would be delighted if you could find it for me! Btw, I know you said it wasf free for that other person, but I don't really care about a cost. Thanks!

 

[Ridire Firean]

Hey Mofritz6 ! I think the main problem you might run into is that the KRSabers Hero Control Box Kit seems to include buttons that are depressed by putting pressure on the clamp card, not by the black buttons on the side of the control box. See how the buttons are arranged at either end of the circuit board, and not side by side on one end of it?

Check Youtube for Flashing LEDs. I've been watching tons of videos trying to figure out how to make a pulsing led for a Lightsaber Stand, and though I can't provide a direct link, I do remember seeing a couple of videos that discussed how to make two LEDs blink back and forth, one blinks twice, then the other blinks twice, and on and on. They all seem to use a 555 Timer, a Capacitor, a Transistor, some Resistors and some even use a Potentiometer to control the rates of flash and pause.

That combination of electronics probably wouldn't fit into the control box so you'd have to Cram-Fu it into the hilt and run wire up to the buttons and LEDs. However, if you used the Accent LED pads from a Crystal Focus, Petite Crouton, or a Prizm Soundcard, you could simply run wires up from the card to the LEDs through the bottom of the control box for the blink effect and wire up some homemade buttons for your Activation and Auxillary Switches the way Slothfurnace did in his ROTJ Luke Skywalker Lightsaber build. That way you wouldn't have to worry about adding extra components into your hilt and you'd still have at least two LEDs left over for a Crystal Chamber LED.

Starts with his idea drawing here... http://slothfurnace.com/sabers/ROTJLuke_05.html

And the machining of said idea on the following pages.

His lightsaber builds are EPIC! Good Luck in your build!

 

[Mofritz6]

Ridire Firean Do you think that I could find a way to used the spliced sounds from the scene and have them play when I press the button, and set up a timer for the LED's that goes off at the exact same time, and conceal that all in the hilt? And I would have a wire connector on the control box and in the hilt, such that when you put the control box on, the wires would be connected.

 

[Mofritz6]

And could I set up the timer has the green LED flash 9 times then the red LED flashes 6 times then the green LED flashes 9 times and it shuts off?(I counted the flashes in the scene by putting the speed to 0.25)

And if so, is there a tutorial on how to do something like that?

 

[Edraven99]

If anyone ever figures this out I'm in... I've been wanting to do something similar

 

[Ridire Firean]

Hey Mofritz6 ! Yes, but don't ask me exactly how, I'm still struggling with the wiring diagram for a pulsing LED, let alone the blink back and forth between two LEDs. You're gonna have to do some Youtubing to figure that out on your own.

Here's a place to start... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBA9uPeEzw4

I'd still say the easiest way to get both the sound you want and a set of blinking lights would be through one of erv 's soundcards.

You can learn more about them at his site by reading through the manuals... http://www.plecterlabs.com

 

[Halliwax]

i would really like to see a switch hidden inside the box, so you can activate the lights like in the delete scene.

 

[Mofritz6]

I was just thinking that! If I used the kr sabers control box pcb, then using one of those vintage all metal compases, I could create a slot where if I touched the compass, it would bridge the connection points

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And I just saw this online that would allow me to add sound:http://electronics.stackexchange.co...e-audioplayer-device-for-a-single-soundeffect

The only problem now is to figure out how to sequence the LED's

 

[erv]

i would really like to see a switch hidden inside the box, so you can activate the lights like in the delete scene.

That's actually one of the scenarios the Crystal Focus board could do : it handles several configurable LED sequencers and has an "idle" sequence when the blade is off, which can be different from the "normal" sequence for when the blade is activated.

To enhance the saber scenario, it also has now the Tangible Tont Selection which allows you to change the font (and all associated configuration, including accent LED sequences) by adding or removing an accessory from the saber, or turning a selector switch. As a result, you can turn your saber into maintenance / tinker mode and get a very specific sequence, then turn it back to normal once you've closed it.

 

[Mofritz6]

erv would it be possible to make the boot sound include both the lights and sound in the deleted scenes, as opposed to just having the idle lights?

 

[erv]

Just after the boot sound you jump in idle sequence. Like I said, it's easy to create a maintenance mode for the saber. Some specific "tinkering" sound fonts have been made like crystal chamber and crystaline workshop to reflect this scenario.

 

[Mofritz6]

erv Oh, so the maintenance/tinker mode is not actually to maintain the electronics, but a sequence of configurable LED's and sound that replicate the maintenance that would take place in the star wars universe?

 

[erv]

@erv Oh, so the maintenance/tinker mode is not actually to maintain the electronics, but a sequence of configurable LED's and sound that replicate the maintenance that would take place in the star wars universe?

Yes, and tangible font selection allows you to switch in that mode with an actual / physical (ie tangible) action on the saber, like sliding the clamp card of the control box, pressing a switch, removing a crystal, adding a brass pin. The maintenance mode is nothing but a regular sound font, with all the sound slots added over the years (swing, clash, lockup, blaster, power on / off, hum etc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er0q2Ai6QtY

obviously, the main led can remain off in that mode. In a different genre and less AI voice, there's the calibrate font front Genesis Custom Sabers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ1rZszPo_k

again, just examples.

 

[MCM]

I've someone came up with a kit that could retrofit on a nicksdad kit, I would be ALL over that. Sorry to hijack. Move along. Move along.

 

[Ridire Firean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ1rZszPo_k

HA! TOO COOL! Of all the videos of yours and Rob's that I've watched, I've never paid any attention to that one because I thought it literally meant HOW to 'Calibrate (a) sound font'. I always thought "I don't have the tools/programs to do that" thinking it was sound font CREATION and skipped right over it. I had no idea it was a font FOR pretending you were tinkering with your saber. I LOVE IT! GREAT IDEA erv!

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

I've someone came up with a kit that could retrofit on a nicksdad kit, I would be ALL over that. Sorry to hijack. Move along. Move along.

If someone came up with a good electronics kit, I'd do a run of v1 hero sabers to go with it.

 

[MCM]

If someone came up with a good electronics kit, I'd do a run of v1 hero sabers to go with it.

I could definitely make room in the collection for something like that [emoji41] Someone make some Yuma control boxes! That way I can have a Yuma and a hero [emoji106]

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[Mofritz6]

Does anyone know if I can create a simple sound font that will have just a boot sound, and similar function to the deleted scene(with the same sound and lights)? And would it be possible to make it such that I can press the auxiliary switch for the deleted scene function without pressing the main switch, but then when I press the main switch it lights up and has sound and everything?