Luke Return Of The Jedi Lightsaber

[BAlinger15]

I believe what people call the "V2" is the one used by Alec Guinness during the duel.

I believe the shared stunt was a rougher predecessor to the "V2", and was not used for the duel.

Note that in Star Wars the "V2" has the same over-length Graflex clamp lever that you see when Hamill uses it in ROTJ (see photo in Making of SW book."

I don't think there is any evidence for what is being called the "shared stunt" being used by Guinness in the first film. Perhaps it was used by Hamill as the bladed fighting saber during the UK shoot in ROTJ.

Lonepigeon?

Brandon

 

[thd9791]

I believe they were both used. The V2 had a black emitter, as we know from the scuffing and coloring. There are shots of Alec Guinness sparring with a prop that has a nipple but is pure silver on top. The shared stunt is said to have been ground off on top, but it was silver.

 

[BAlinger15]

Can you post any shots that show Guinness with a silver ended emitter?

Brandon

 

[thd9791]

The attached photo is a little small and grainy, but shiny. The thread has the real clear picture I was talking about.

The thread also turned into a spat between me and another member - complete miscommunication so please ignore that haha

http://www.therpf.com/f9/obi-wan-anh-unnamed-stunt-135504/

 

[BAlinger15]

I don't think any of those photos show a silver end.

The emitter on the saber Guinness uses is always distinctly black - on the sides and end.

Brandon

 

[thd9791]

...did you click that link?

Anyways, i guess we're differing on opinion of color/material. That's okay.

 

[paplooo]

wow good topic..
can somebody post some pictures of each sabers? like hero 1 , V2 , stunt etc etc...
thanks a lot.!

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

Incorrect.

Can you provide any evidence to justify this statement?

 

[thd9791]

This is the hero, aluminum, with all the fixings. made for close up shots
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll317/drdicarlo/Luke ROTJ original prop pix/HeroakaV1.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll317/drdicarlo/Luke ROTJ original prop pix/HeroakaV1.jpg


This is the V2

http://www.yourprops.com/movieprops...edi-1983/Luke-Skywalker-s--V2--Lightsaber.jpg

http://www.yourprops.com/movieprops...edi-1983/Luke-Skywalker-s--V2--Lightsaber.jpg



AND the attached image

The Shared Stunt is here
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http://images17.fotki.com/v62/photos/9/976173/4001324/empire01-vi.jpg

The Yuma is here

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv244/CaineDrathul/Saber Stuff/lukerotj2tt3.jpg

http://www.hooverae.com/upload/pics/saber1.jpg

This is the cheaper one shot out of R2, had many brothers.

http://www.galacticbinder.com/images/head-scratchers/r2-d2-lightsaber.jpg


Then there were other cheap stunts for things like this

http://58525.com/i/misc/sabers/barge1.jpg

Hope I got everything!

 

[paplooo]

Thanks !!

 

[thd9791]

Absolutely! I'm glad I could help I've got a couple more pictures for you!

This is another picture of the V2 (Believe it or not! I didn't at first) As it was used in 1977.

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Everything was black except for the clamp and pommel, and it was (for the most part) rubbed off for Return of the Jedi.

This is the "shared stunt," again (even though both this and the V2 were shared between movies) which lost it's "nipple" shortly after A New Hope, Mark Hamil using it to train for the climax of the movie. The other picture I had was training for ESB, with david prowse using it.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l60om1qVj31qc823io1_500.jpg

 

[paplooo]

and this one?

 

[BAlinger15]

I believe the Bob Anderson photo shows the "V2" and I believe all SW / ESB photos showing sabers with blades attached show the "V2."

The "shared stunt" I believe to have been used possibly as a dueling saber for the UK shoot on ROJ. Also possibly as a stunt belt saber in ROJ. I don't believe it was used at all, including training, during SW and ESB. If anyone has any real photographic evidence that it was, I'd be interested to see.

Note that the rear section above the pommel in the training photos is always black, like the V2.

Best,
Brandon

 

[thd9791]

and this one?

That is most definitely the V2! (and great picture, where'd you find that?!)

And, okay I understand where you're coming from BAlinger15. The only shots we have that we claim to be the shared stunt are grey or fuzzy or whatever. The only point I have is this thing were debating over, (at least to me) has a very different neck than the thicker simpler V2, and the emitter (compared to things actually black like someone's pants) looks a lot lighter to me, it would blend in with the background if it wasn't.

I do admit that is the first I've seen the V2 bladed after ANH. Adds a nice spon on things. Honestly though, the V2 was in 80% of the movie I agree there. I'm still a little unsure as well, the "shared stunt" from A new hope looks really delicate and thin and may not be this handle after all. I just don't see the black emitter in the behind the scenes photos.

 

[scarf man]

wow good topic..
can somebody post some pictures of each sabers? like hero 1 , V2 , stunt etc etc...
thanks a lot.!

http://www.therpf.com/f9/list-luke-rotj-sabers-57482/

 

[thd9791]

Yep, thanks scarf man, that is a fantastic thread. It confused me at first, so I thought separate photos with context may help.

That last one in the main picture...is the one in the archives? was that ever used on screen?

 

[scarf man]

Yep, thanks scarf man, that is a fantastic thread. It confused me at first, so I thought separate photos with context may help.

That last one in the main picture...is the one in the archives? was that ever used on screen?

The first post in that thread may be a bit "concise" for newer members without a base knowledge of our (RPF) acronyms and terminology. Any suggestions are welcomed.

That last pic (the one below) is from the Magic of Myth touring exhibit in the first half of the 00's.

The above saber has been in numerous touring exhibits, and calls the Lucasfilm archives home.
The saber did not appear on screen in it's current form, however it is believed to have been used in the deleted scenes portraying Luke tinkering under the control box of his newly constructed saber.
It is generally believed that the above saber is the ISYHCANL saber redressed with added control box parts for the aforementioned deleted scene.

ISYHCANL = "I see you have constructed a new lightasber"

P.S. The pic posted by Paploo is from Empire, not Jedi, as lonepigeon stated in another thread.

 

[thd9791]

Oh, that makes much more sense, thank you!

Yep, I can see the redressed idea, that emitter looks spot on but the control box was so damn simple before.

And thank you, that was my mistake about that picture, still cool though. i didn't know the V2 had life left in it to be bladed - everyone made it sound like it was a hollow busted up thing

 

[Sym-Cha]

So if this is a photo of the shared stunt during practise on ESB :

then this must be a more elaborate close-up of the same :

notice the same pants and part of Dave Prowse belt and also the lack of a graflex clamp on the midsection. Thus the shared stunt was used in practise sessions during production of ESB and is the same as seen here in Alec Guinness' hands on ANH with the graflex clamp still attached :

So is this the same now as used by Mark Hamill seen here during ROTJ then?

-Chaim

 

[BAlinger15]

Those first three photos (two practice ESB shots, one Guinness Star Wars shot) are all the V2. Notice the emitter is black as is the section above the pommel. The Graflex clamp was removable from the saber.

The photo from ROTJ is not the V2, since it was being used as a belt saber at that point. It could be what people call the "Shared stunt".

Again, IMO the "shared stunt" is not seen in Star Wars or during ESB practice, unless someone has a photo to show otherwise.

Best,
Brandon