Lost season 6 with spoilers beware

I actually think that The Boy in Black grew up without a name. I don't see Fake Mom rolling with civilized niceties like that. But either way, it's brilliant for storytelling purposes, since it deepens the binary equation. Dark vs. Light. Jacob vs. Not-Jacob. It makes him the exact opposite of Jacob. The binary equation translates to his idea of home, too. The Island isn't Home, even though it's the only place he has ever been in his entire life. That means that everything that isn't the Island is, in fact, Home. And since there's no Island in Timeline X, it fits Smokey's idea of home perfectly.

And I quote Kevin's awesome Mary Magdelene rumination, too:

http://www.spectacularry.com/?p=243
 

Huh, that is kinda crazy that they would put that.

Interesting... I immediately wiki'ed the name and got this.

Yeah, crazy!

Esau is what we all (well those of us who knew the Bible story already, anyway) wondered right from the minute we saw that Jacob had a 'bad' counterpart but I'd be surprised if he was actually NAMED Esau by 'not mom'.

My guess is that it's his name in the script so they could refer to him as something other than - MIB, Not-Jacob etc. and it just got used in a summary by someone without realizing it wasn't official.
 
Yeah, crazy!

Esau is what we all (well those of us who knew the Bible story already, anyway) wondered right from the minute we saw that Jacob had a 'bad' counterpart but I'd be surprised if he was actually NAMED Esau by 'not mom'.

My guess is that it's his name in the script so they could refer to him as something other than - MIB, Not-Jacob etc. and it just got used in a summary by someone without realizing it wasn't official.

Or, someone's idea of a mildly sarcastic prank. :)
 
Stolen from a friend:

Jacob and MIB's "mother" spent the whole episode building up to her replacement. We were lead to think she has chosen Jacob to replace her duties of protecting the island, but what if she actually chose MIB to replace her job as the Smoke Monster? The whole episode is about her manipulation of Jacob that eventually leads him to throw his brother into the light which turns him into the new smoke monster.

She left the game on the beach to start a rivalry between the two boys. She used her "smokey" powers to appear as MIB's real mother and guide him to the Others. She saw that MIB had all the qualities to be the evil smoke monster (able to lie.. ect.). I mean, what kind of woman beats a pregnant woman with a rock and steals her babies? An evil woman! A smoke monster!

How did she ruin the camp and destroy the well in such a short amount of time? She turned into smokey then poof! Easy!

She told Jacob the light was a fate worse than death. Sounds like she knows from experience.
She knew MIB would kill her, so she showed Jacob exactly how to get his revenge on MIB - throw him into the light. That made MIB her replacement, which was the plan all along. Jacob was only a pawn.

Obvious, right?
 
as far as we know the smoke may leave behind a "real" body, im sure it can't be killed in its smoke form, and maybe after MIB became smokey she was stuck in human form.
 
True, could be why she said "thank you" after he killed her.


Stolen from a friend:

Jacob and MIB's "mother" spent the whole episode building up to her replacement. We were lead to think she has chosen Jacob to replace her duties of protecting the island, but what if she actually chose MIB to replace her job as the Smoke Monster? The whole episode is about her manipulation of Jacob that eventually leads him to throw his brother into the light which turns him into the new smoke monster.

She left the game on the beach to start a rivalry between the two boys. She used her "smokey" powers to appear as MIB's real mother and guide him to the Others. She saw that MIB had all the qualities to be the evil smoke monster (able to lie.. ect.). I mean, what kind of woman beats a pregnant woman with a rock and steals her babies? An evil woman! A smoke monster!

How did she ruin the camp and destroy the well in such a short amount of time? She turned into smokey then poof! Easy!

She told Jacob the light was a fate worse than death. Sounds like she knows from experience.
She knew MIB would kill her, so she showed Jacob exactly how to get his revenge on MIB - throw him into the light. That made MIB her replacement, which was the plan all along. Jacob was only a pawn.

Obvious, right?
 
I agree. She had to be a smoke monster. She seemed to speak from experience about what would happen if you went in the cave, and she could have not destroyed the entire village and fill in the well otherwise.

She was stabbed with that dagger before she spoke, and because of this was locked into her body form and thus died...after thanking her "son".

Sounds good to me:lol

I still want to know what Des means to Widmore in all of this. Is he a game changer if Smokey wins? What is the sacrifice Widmore was talking about. My guess would be that Desmond has to die on the island in some way after causing some type of situation that causes Smokey to loose in order for the other reality to come to pass?
 
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Stolen from a friend:

Jacob and MIB's "mother" spent the whole episode building up to her replacement. We were lead to think she has chosen Jacob to replace her duties of protecting the island, but what if she actually chose MIB to replace her job as the Smoke Monster? The whole episode is about her manipulation of Jacob that eventually leads him to throw his brother into the light which turns him into the new smoke monster.

She left the game on the beach to start a rivalry between the two boys. She used her "smokey" powers to appear as MIB's real mother and guide him to the Others. She saw that MIB had all the qualities to be the evil smoke monster (able to lie.. ect.). I mean, what kind of woman beats a pregnant woman with a rock and steals her babies? An evil woman! A smoke monster!

How did she ruin the camp and destroy the well in such a short amount of time? She turned into smokey then poof! Easy!

She told Jacob the light was a fate worse than death. Sounds like she knows from experience.
She knew MIB would kill her, so she showed Jacob exactly how to get his revenge on MIB - throw him into the light. That made MIB her replacement, which was the plan all along. Jacob was only a pawn.

Obvious, right?


Excellent points - no way mib was unconscious more than a matter of hours. One shot against a stone wall doesn't knock you out a week or two. So how in a matter of hours does 'mom' fill in the cave (which had to be abotu 60 feet deep) and then fill in the well access to it (about 15 feet) and fill up about 10' above ground, and then go to the village and destroy it and kill the villagers in roughtly 10ish hours? Short of being supernatural, it's not possible.

Or course, how was she also able to make jacob the new protector in the process?

Can it work both ways? She was a smoke monster that protected the island? Then gave one boy the protector power and the other the smoke monster power?
 
I also think it's interesting that not-mon, the "protector" of the island belived men to be "bad." They fight, corrupt, destroy, etc. The MiB holds the same belief. However, Jacob, the new "Protecter", believes the exact opposite; that men are inherrently good. Hmmm.
 
Lost spin-off series news!

The Smoke Monster From 'Lost' Given Own Primetime Spin-Off Series


BURBANK, CA—Executives at ABC announced Monday that the network will premier a new Lost spin-off series this fall based around that show's popular smoke monster character.
The smoke monster, a fan favorite.
The new series, a half-hour family-oriented comedy called Where There's Smoke, is touted by ABC as the new anchor of its Thursday-night lineup.
"Somewhere between the smoke monster's first appearance on Lost— when it was depicted as a strange unseen force uprooting trees—and that episode in season three where it grabbed Mr. Eko and smashed him against the ground until he was dead, this character became the breakout star of the show," said Stephen McPherson, president of ABC Entertainment. "And that's exactly why we're so excited about Where There's Smoke. We get to see the monster's light comedic side in a show about life, love, and good friends having good times."
"Because after all, Where There's Smoke, there's laughter," McPherson added.
Lea Thompson (<i>Caroline In The City</i>) costars with the ominous cloud (<i>Lost</i>) in its new ABC sitcom this fall.
ABC sources reported that the series will transplant the evil black cloud from the island of Lost to the suburbs of Chicago, where it works as a sports radio host, surrounded by "a whole new group of crazy characters." Actress Lea Thompson has signed on to play the monster's long-suffering wife, who must put up with her husband's screwball antics while raising the couple's two rambunctious children, Tanner and Smoky, Jr.
Veteran TV producer Chuck Lorre, of Dharma & Greg and The Big Bang Theory fame, will helm the show, which he said will focus mainly on the deadly creature's adjustments to suburbia and fatherhood, and its comically contentious relationship with its boss, a fussy radio station manager played by Richard Kind.
"The whole concept began with us asking, 'So what happens to the monster after it kills somebody and disappears down that ancient temple vent? What kind of life might it have?'" Lorre said. "And what we realized is that audiences really relate to this character and would like to see it in everyday situations, shooting the breeze with buddies at a local watering hole or murdering its son's soccer coach and depositing his lifeless body in a tree."
"And of course, you'll be hearing lots of its classic catchphrase, 'Brrrrr, chk-chk-chk-chk, muuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhh,'" Lorre added.
Lost producer Jack Bender has confirmed that the smoke monster will no longer be part of his show's regular cast. However, ABC has promised that Where There's Smoke will feature a number of guest appearances from Lost regulars. Sources said the pilot episode will feature an appearance by actor Michael Emerson as a slobby houseguest named Benjamin Linus who overstays his welcome, much to the chagrin of the smoke monster's wife.
Though the project has been in development for almost a year, negotiations reached a standstill last winter when representatives for the mysterious, billowing actor expressed concern that their client would risk being typecast as "just a smoke monster" if the role were carried into a new series.
"We're always sensitive to these kinds of things, but we actually think this new vehicle will make people realize [the monster] is a sophisticated actor with a great deal of range," said McPherson, who agreed to pay the show's star $2 million per episode after scenes between the smoke monster and a nosy, ethnic next-door neighbor tested well with audiences. "People love the smoke monster, and people love to laugh. This series is a can't-miss."
Added McPherson, "And I'm not just blowing smoke here."

Well it is all made up from The Onion, but funny non the less. I for one would love to see a flash sideways series with Sawyer and Miles as cops:thumbsup
 
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