TylerAtParagon
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I can assure you they aren't the ones licensed to produce this replica 
Jurassic Park Cryocan scam???
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A quick thank you to everyone who've called, sent emails, etc.
Universal legal is aware of this. Perio legal (Barbasol) is aware of this. PayPal legal is aware of this.
The vials and printed metal cans alone for these things are expensive as hell, so an entire can for 40+ dollars??
Regardless, we have nothing to do with this and have to leave it to the IP holders. (We'll share our suspicions when we can)
As for our run, thanks to those who've jumped in thus far.
Paragon FX Group's cryogenics cannisters will have the official Universal/Amblin legal line on the product and we're expecting them to be complete
around the end of the month. The Hammond canes will be along in a couple weeks.
Sincerely, thanks for guarding the gate!
-Rylo
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Universal legal is aware of this. Perio legal (Barbasol) is aware of this. PayPal legal is aware of this.
The vials and printed metal cans alone for these things are expensive as hell, so an entire can for 40+ dollars??
Regardless, we have nothing to do with this and have to leave it to the IP holders. (We'll share our suspicions when we can)
As for our run, thanks to those who've jumped in thus far.
Paragon FX Group's cryogenics cannisters will have the official Universal/Amblin legal line on the product and we're expecting them to be complete
around the end of the month. The Hammond canes will be along in a couple weeks.
Sincerely, thanks for guarding the gate!
-Rylo
Jurassic Park Cryogenics Canister | Officially Licensed | Buy Cryo Can
In stock and ready to ship The vials will ship empty as we could not import them with liquid inside. Please refer to our video on how to fill the vials and how to make your Dino DNA. Please note: This item cannot be shipped outside of the United States. Manufactured by Biosyn (a corporate...
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That is a great price point on your Cryo Can product, Rylo.
A quick thank you to everyone who've called, sent emails, etc.
Universal legal is aware of this. Perio legal (Barbasol) is aware of this. PayPal legal is aware of this.
The vials and printed metal cans alone for these things are expensive as hell, so an entire can for 40+ dollars??
Regardless, we have nothing to do with this and have to leave it to the IP holders. (We'll share our suspicions when we can)
As for our run, thanks to those who've jumped in thus far.
Paragon FX Group's cryogenics cannisters will have the official Universal/Amblin legal line on the product and we're expecting them to be complete
around the end of the month. The Hammond canes will be along in a couple weeks.
Sincerely, thanks for guarding the gate!
-Rylo
Jurassic Park Cryogenics Canister | Officially Licensed | Buy Cryo Can
In stock and ready to ship The vials will ship empty as we could not import them with liquid inside. Please refer to our video on how to fill the vials and how to make your Dino DNA. Please note: This item cannot be shipped outside of the United States. Manufactured by Biosyn (a corporate...
That is a great price point on your Cryo Can product, Rylo.
Thanks, man!
We'll have some good stories to tell about these down the road. I think you guys will be really pleased with how involved Barbasol was with the project. Universal and Amblin were of course great to work with, but Barbasol had a lot of input. They truly care about their brand and appreciate the relationship with this franchise.
Once we catch our breath, I'll share more.
-Rylo
ArcSpectator
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It is a scam for sure.
ArcSpectator
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I can possibly confirm that it is just a scam..
filmingdrummer
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I found this thread initially because I fell for it. Really I was just in disbelief because I was a customer of Rbreplicas' cryo can from last year, and I threw money at this to see what actually came. Then I realized they were using the same photos as Rb so I knew I had been duped.
It's funny, I spent 45 mins or so gathering evidence for my PayPal case, wrote a whole long diatribe, and then when I clicked "submit" on the case to PayPal, immediately on the next screen it said "you are getting a full refund." So, I suppose this has been a common theme with the seller then and are just blind approving refunds, so that's good.
It's funny, I spent 45 mins or so gathering evidence for my PayPal case, wrote a whole long diatribe, and then when I clicked "submit" on the case to PayPal, immediately on the next screen it said "you are getting a full refund." So, I suppose this has been a common theme with the seller then and are just blind approving refunds, so that's good.
ArcSpectator
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Those people who are replying in the Facebook ads with even supposed photo evidence are fake and trying to pose as satisfied buyers trying to convince suckers it’s real..
JiminSTLouis
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My comments have been repeatedly deleted.
filmingdrummer
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I got this reply from them after opening my PayPal case! Uh... no... I don't think I'll unfreeze your account, thanks!
Dr Jones Sr
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Wow. How on earth is that possible?
About the seller that states they won't sell through Ebay, yes there's a pawn shop who pops up from time to time who, among the photos of the item, has a photo of a sign with their contact information and telling you not to bid, but to contact them directly. They get reported and taken down immediately too.
Shocker... Not
Yeah...I'm pretty sure we figured that one out a while back.
I have no idea, but this seller popped up again with the same items on Saturday night. I spent about an hour reporting a bunch of the items, and a few hours later they were all removed, including the ones I didn’t report out of the hundreds that had listed. And once they were gone, the person they were piggybacking off of, still had their normal items for sale. I just can’t figure out how this seller is doing it, and after so many reports, I can’t fathom how eBay hasn’t fixed the loophole.
Thanks again to everyone for being vigilant. As mentioned, legal is in the mix with these issues.
Something we've been thinking about on our end that can help educate people is a simple matter of exposure.
We're still very much a new company. While numerous people here know we exist, it's pretty surprising how many don't.
When we do conventions, our merch is of course popular but we constantly hear, "I didn't know about you guys!"
That said, we're going to do a review push. For anyone who's purchased something from us, if you do a video
review of our merch and send us the link, we'll be working up a program to say thank you for the effort.
This may be by way of a discount for a future purchase, shirts or we may turn the whole thing into a contest...still working it out.
There's that awkward fine line of saying, "Hey, help us out and do a review...and we'll grease you for a review. We're cool with a sincere review, no matter how it goes. We've been very careful about just sending every influencer under the sun our merch. We really prefer to earn
our spot.
With that, we work pretty hard on our socials but it's hard to beat an honest review from those who've actually purchased your products. We want people to know we're a company that actually produces and lands product...we do what we say we will. Unfortunately, some who've come before us have made things difficult causing people to be leery. It's a little rough to be the new guys.
Basically, the more people who know we're out there, the more know what legitimate merch is being produced, etc.
Also, socials matter. The more subscribers, the more eyes on posts, the better placement at shows, etc. You wouldn't believe
how much people in the industry actually use those numbers (Very Black Mirror) as a gauge.
So, yes. If you get a minute, help us out and we'll keep doing what we do. Make the effort to actually follow Paragon on Instagram, fakebook, etc.
Aaaand, If you do a review, send me a link! Just message me here. (A couple of you already have...I'll be getting up with you)
Thanks!
-Ry
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Something we've been thinking about on our end that can help educate people is a simple matter of exposure.
We're still very much a new company. While numerous people here know we exist, it's pretty surprising how many don't.
When we do conventions, our merch is of course popular but we constantly hear, "I didn't know about you guys!"
That said, we're going to do a review push. For anyone who's purchased something from us, if you do a video
review of our merch and send us the link, we'll be working up a program to say thank you for the effort.
This may be by way of a discount for a future purchase, shirts or we may turn the whole thing into a contest...still working it out.
There's that awkward fine line of saying, "Hey, help us out and do a review...and we'll grease you for a review. We're cool with a sincere review, no matter how it goes. We've been very careful about just sending every influencer under the sun our merch. We really prefer to earn
our spot.
With that, we work pretty hard on our socials but it's hard to beat an honest review from those who've actually purchased your products. We want people to know we're a company that actually produces and lands product...we do what we say we will. Unfortunately, some who've come before us have made things difficult causing people to be leery. It's a little rough to be the new guys.
Basically, the more people who know we're out there, the more know what legitimate merch is being produced, etc.
Also, socials matter. The more subscribers, the more eyes on posts, the better placement at shows, etc. You wouldn't believe
how much people in the industry actually use those numbers (Very Black Mirror) as a gauge.
So, yes. If you get a minute, help us out and we'll keep doing what we do. Make the effort to actually follow Paragon on Instagram, fakebook, etc.
Aaaand, If you do a review, send me a link! Just message me here. (A couple of you already have...I'll be getting up with you)
Thanks!
-Ry
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exidor
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Unfortunately, I think you just got lucky. I've read stories before about people getting scammed through PayPal and not being able to get it resolved. Don't think "purchase protection" means anything.
I encountered a bad situation once. I fell for a Facebook ad, and once I clicked submit on my payment, I realized my mistake. I had a gut feeling, so I looked up the PayPal email address I sent money to, and it was a foreign name. It should have been a legit store address, as they were emulating a famous cooking brand but their outlet store.
So I googled the website used in the ad and read that it was a scam. I immediately contacted PayPal and filed a claim. They closed my case immediately and said “you need to give them time to ship the item out before calling it a scam”. Case closed!
A month later, I figured enough time went by. I tried to open a claim, but I couldn’t. PayPal system showed it was already opened and closed. And by closed, PayPal took it that they closed it because it was resolved. I called to talk to someone and they said there was nothing that could do.
MTB
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I knida knew this was a scam as well but was willing to risk the $49. After getting an email stating that the shipping would be delyed till mid August I decided to report it to paypal. Paypal instantly refunded me and I figured it was all over......but 2 days after I got a shipping notification. My package was shipped from Dongguan, Guangdong and now is in Hong Kong International Airport. I got my refund and they still shipped it. Ill post what I get when ever it gets here.
Starganderfish
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There’s a lucrative trade in used eBay accounts in China, India and similar countries. Pepole set up an account, spend a little while selling a bunch of cheap small items and building up sales, feedback and reputation. The seller then sells the eBay account off to a scammer who can use it to make a couple hundred larger value sales, and then do a runner with the money. eBay/PayPal struggles to get the money back and just typically writes it off as a business expense.
The other thing that people do is set up a network of a dozen eBay accounts and then do a bunch of really small/cheap transactions between the accounts, leaving feedback from all the various accounts and building them each up to a decent reputation, then sell the accounts off to scammers. It’s why you’ll often see very generic, “cut and paste” feedback on these accounts.
PayPal makes enough money from their merchant fees to cover the cost of these scammers, curious folks often take a chance on a listing, just to see what’ll happen, confident that PayPal will usually have their back and they’ll get their money back… and the scammer makes off with a few hundred or a few thousand bucks worth of fraudulent sales per account - which is a pretty good income in that part of the world.
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