DrStranglove
Sr Member
Is it possible they built it on earth, took it apart in sections and reassembled it in space. (Kind of like we do now for real?)
JJ ABRAMS Enterprise
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GrenadeKing
Sr Member
I'm going to say that there is. Probably behind the strut and just out of view. The angle of that pic really sucks. Makes the whole thing look weirder than it already does. :unsure
Is there a movie Harry doesn't like nowdays? He wants to be welcomed by JJ with open arms at all times so his opinion is the same as JJ's agent if you were to ask him.
Capt MarVell
Sr Member
You know, I think I'm starting to nail down what I don't like about the nacelle struts. For me it's not so much the taper, as it is the curvature. Seen head-on, they're bowed instead of straight. Just makes it look weird to me. Then again, with all the swoopy curves this thing has, they might look worse straight. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what it is I don't like about the nacelles though. So far, just too bulbous at the front, and the nacelles attach too far forward. But it is starting to grow on me.
Jim
Jim
Well, we know canon-wise, that the Enterprise was built at the "San Francisco Fleet Yards, Earth", but I think most people just assumed it was assembled in orbit. We've seen the E in earth atmosphere before, (can't remember the ep title right now, but it was the one where they ended up with the 60's fighter pilot) so we know it can navigate in atmosphere ok, maybe it's just not intended to ever need to land again? :confused
-Sarge
Zombie_61
Master Member
The episode is called "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" (Season 1, Episode 19).
I seem to recall reading something about the Enterprise having retractable landing gear in the secondary hull while the original series was still in the planning stages, but the concept was eventually discarded in favor of shuttlecraft and transporters. If I'm correct, it would imply the ship initially was supposed to have atmospheric flight capabilities despite it's lack of aerodynamics.
For Star Trek XI, who knows? Canon has apparently been discarded "in favor of it's new matrix." I guess we'll find out in May.
Well if you read "The Making of Star Trek" (Whitfield & Roddenberry, 1968) there's a lot from the development of the show conceptually... the idea that the ship stays in space, doesn't land every week... and I think that's where the idea where the components were made on earth and assembled in space, comes from.
My problem is that this Abrams movie, is gonna have to have a scene where the Enterprise lifts off of that construction gantry, and swoops off into the sky. And that scene is going to suck. :lol
My problem is that this Abrams movie, is gonna have to have a scene where the Enterprise lifts off of that construction gantry, and swoops off into the sky. And that scene is going to suck. :lol
Dunno about that... Voyager had retractable landing gear in the secondary hull. Don't ever remember hearing that ever said about the TOS Enterprise.
What WAS said at some point was that those triangular fixtures on the bottom of the primary hull... those were two of three landing gear legs. The third would have been in the dorsal neck. I don't know if that was ever completely thought out while TOS was in production, or if saucer separation wasn't really conceived of until later.
I know the idea of jettisoning the warp engines and escaping in "the main section" was mentioned in dialogue, I think in "The Apple" but it may have been another episode.
:lol
I dunno- if nothing else can be gleaned from the trailer, it's at least that they can do a good job of establishing scale- look at those huge, industrial "things" in the background as Kirk pulls up on his bike. They've got an atmospheric haze blurring them like the sheild projector in Jedi, and they look absolutely immense!
Couple that kind of implied mass when the Enterprise lifts off- not just "swooping" off into the sky, but slowly... deliberately... "slipping the surly bonds of the earth" as the ground shakes, the music and sound fx swell, everyone on the bridge holds on for dear life... (and you've gotta have that guy on the scaffolding waving goodbye!
)-Sarge
I dunno, I just have this recurring nightmare, that the ship is going to lift straight up, gently, with no rockets blasting or other earth-shattering forces at work... just glide straight up about 1000 feet, and then the warp engines are gonna glow blue and it's gonna streak off towards the horizon.
And the music that will be swelling, will be "When You Wish Upon A Star"... :rolleyes
And the music that will be swelling, will be "When You Wish Upon A Star"... :rolleyes
Kirk is gonna run to the helm console, grab the joystick, pull a cassette tape of Steppenwolf's "Magic Carpet Ride" out of his pocket and slap it into the stereo, and shout to noone in particular, "Buckle up! This may get a little bumpy!" :lol
greatwazoo42
Master Member
You are correct; it was 'The Apple' in which the old E's saucer seperation was mentioned.
rad1701
Sr Member
They may do it that way. But it could go other ways. The obvious idea would be tractor beams and other ships lifting it into the sky until it can maneuver under it's own power. At least that's the way I would do it. And the real reason Roddenberry didn't have the ship land in TOS was the effects cost each week - so they came up with the transporters.
anubispro
Well-Known Member
You mean the structures that look remarkably like a modern day oil refinery? :cool
So, Kirk is driving a 20th century CAR, the E (Not going to call it Enterprise, it ISN'T) is being built next to a refinery and they want me t accept that the movie takes place in the 23rd century?:unsure
I guess in 300 years we still are addicted to oil.
(OK, I guess I can believe that). :lol
And why build the E on the Ground when it isn't necessary?
Dont they have space docks in this abortion, er, I mean "fresh take on the ST franchise"?
The term "visual gimmick" comes to mind.
It looks like I will be expected to "suspend belief" like the E will have to suspend its ugly butt into space.
Abrams is throwing ST continuity out the same window that Kirk usually throws the Prime Directive.:lol
greatwazoo42
Master Member
As long as Kirk flying double foot drop kicks somebody during the film I'm happy.
