JJ ABRAMS Enterprise

[nickytea]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Weird proportions, yes, but that looks enough "new" to me to make me think that the ship is a familiar one, but still a fresh new Enterprise... I don't know, I kinda like it so far...
But just a small single shot, especially from this angle, isn't enough to really understand its "impact" on screen...
I still look forward to the movie.

This begs the question,
What would a Ramiel original Enterprise look like?

 

[mverta]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Carson's got legit references. The reason the nacelle connects look different at the base is because you're not actually seeing the base of the shape; it overlaps the hull, so the profile is misleading, there.


_Mike

 

[nickytea]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Carson's got legit references. The reason the nacelle connects look different at the base is because you're not actually seeing the base of the shape; it overlaps the hull, so the profile is misleading, there.


_Mike

Interesting.

The one thing that was bugging me in the first picture (the forward-ness of the blue-dish section), looks perfect on the profile.

I really need to brush up on my Enterprise terminology. :lol

 

[Jet Beetle]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

I personally don't like it at all. I've always hated TNG designs and this looks like a cross between the two - especially the belly. This change was brought about to sell toys and that is it - same reason Singer changed the Superman suit and Speilberg branded "JP" on the side of all of "his" dinos. They want to give people new stuff to buy from Sideshow, Hot Toys, models and games. They would never keep the original design because anyone who has already purchased a old school ship would have no reason to go out and spend more money.

As for the comparisons of the 1979 Enterprise and the TV show version - it wasn't that drastic and the show's absence accounted for progression in technology that the new ship was refitted with - Scotty even mentions it to Kirk. This was supposed to be a RETURN to the old show, meaning there was no reason to change the ship

 

[Ramiel]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

This begs the question,
What would a Ramiel original Enterprise look like?

Oh please, why you are giving me ideas while I'm so damn busy with work???
God I hate you!:lol

Well, let's say that probably would be a mix of this one, Gabe's one and the original TV one...
Damn, now I want to put it on paper (or in 3D)...:rolleyes

...I REALLY hate you now...

 

[nickytea]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Oh please, why you are giving me ideas while I'm so damn busy with work???
God I hate you!:lol

Well, let's say that probably would be a mix of this one, Gabe's one and the original TV one...
Damn, now I want to put it on paper (or in 3D)...:rolleyes

...I REALLY hate you now...

Success!

Hate me all you want, just show us the d@mn ship!

 

[Ramiel]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Success!

Hate me all you want, just show us the d@mn ship!

Damn...:rolleyes

 

[nickytea]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Damn...:rolleyes

Hope you didn't take my loose "First Contact" reference the wrong way.

 

[mkstewartesq]

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This was supposed to be a RETURN to the old show, meaning there was no reason to change the ship

Um, just to be clear - I have never heard anything saying this was supposed to be a "return" to the old show. It was a retelling of the STORY told by the old show (at best, a "return" to the STORY told by the original story) - just like the myriad retelings of the "Wizard of Oz"- and so no one should expect that a new retelling entails fidelity to the way the story was told by previous storytellers.

MKS

 

[franz bolo]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Carson's got legit references. The reason the nacelle connects look different at the base is because you're not actually seeing the base of the shape; it overlaps the hull, so the profile is misleading, there.


_Mike

I've drawn enough orthographic drawings to know what something would look like from a 3/4 view. His interpretation is out of proportion.


Ramiel, where's the ship?? Your not done yet?? :lol

FB

 

[Krel]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Looks to me like they took a blowtorch, and melted the 79 movie Enterprise. The photo of the bridge, and the way this one is painted reminds me more of the 79 Enterprise than the tv Enterprise.

David.

 

[SmilingOtter]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Oh please, why you are giving me ideas while I'm so damn busy with work???
God I hate you!:lol

Well, let's say that probably would be a mix of this one, Gabe's one and the original TV one...
Damn, now I want to put it on paper (or in 3D)...:rolleyes

...I REALLY hate you now...

Ramiel, to misquote one of your countrymen...

"Let them hate, so long as they draw."

 

[Jet Beetle]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Um, just to be clear - I have never heard anything saying this was supposed to be a "return" to the old show. It was a retelling of the STORY told by the old show (at best, a "return" to the STORY told by the original story) - just like the myriad retelings of the "Wizard of Oz"- and so no one should expect that a new retelling entails fidelity to the way the story was told by previous storytellers.

MKS

Actually they did say that when this project was first announced - then it dove tailed into a reboot. If they were simply retelling an alternate version - no need for Nimoy

 

[mkstewartesq]

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Actually they did say that when this project was first announced - then it dove tailed into a reboot. If they were simply retelling an alternate version - no need for Nimoy

Touche.

MKS

 

[Jet Beetle]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Touche.

MKS

Don't get me wrong - I wish they had simply said that "anything goes" at the beginning. But everyone knows if you are going to sell new Trek you have to include the names "Kirk and Spock" in the sales pitch -- "Picard and Riker" just aint gonna cut it.

 

[REL]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

I think it's beautiful, much nicer than the refit or original.

 

[SmilingOtter]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Well, depending on Spock's age, we could just chalk all the changes up to poor memory...

 

[Jet Beetle]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Well, depending on Spock's age, we could just chalk all the changes up to poor memory...

LOL

They should call him GramPOCK in this movie.

 

[nickytea]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

LOL

They should call him GramPOCK in this movie.

:lol I think I just scared my neighbors.

First literal LOL in a while.

 

[Carson Dyle]

Re: JJ AMBRANS Enterprise

Carson, I'm not doubting your reference,
but looking at your outline, where the nacelle support connects to the hull, it doesn't match the picture just released.

My obviously sketchy outline should not be taken as a literal representation of the fully rendered finish. Nevertheless, based on what I’ve seen, the contours appear pretty close to the mark.

As for the posted photograph, the usual (and occasionally misleading) issues of focal length and lens distortion apply.