Jedi training remote....parts!

Discussion in 'Studio Scale Models' started by Coinprop, Jul 14, 2003.

  1. Coinprop

    Coinprop Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    I´m putting together a JTR, from scratch! I´ve been lucky to get hold of some bits myself, and some help from a friend.
    I´m missing 2 pieces, the rims and the Tank "tower" (panther tank 1/4[​IMG]

    Does anyone if You have the pieces i´m looking for, recast or if You have one piece over, that i can buy from You.

    Send me a PM.

    Thanks

    Tobias.
     
  2. dkwd

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    I saw the information on partsofsw.com and was inspired as well. I picked up a Hasegawa 1/72 Sherman (looks like I will need to get a second one) and should be able to track down an ERTL 1/24 trailer.

    Will there be enough axel brackets in one trailer kit for a remote?

    I might be able to track down a 1/48 Panther model - are the Furman, Tamiya and Bandai also work?
    Would 8 of these kits be needed - for the cupolas?
    How many gunports or (part #3) are in the Panther kit?

    I suppose one could mold and cast some of these parts - it's always a good reason to learn molding. In that case, would their be enough tread pieces in one kit for a remote? Would there be extra tread pieces with which to use in making a replica thermal detonator?

    Would one still be able to get copies of some of the pieces from anyone out there - notably extra cupolas, gunports, and (part #3)?

    Thanks for your help.

    David
     
  3. Treadwell

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    I know the AMT Peterbilt wrecker has enough chrome rims, if you don't mind using both varieties (with lugnuts and without, both of which appear on the prop). I dunno about the trailer.
     
  4. dkwd

    dkwd Well-Known Member

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    Would the wrecker have enough of the axle brackets - it looks like we would need 8, right?

    David
     
  5. Treadwell

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    I know next to nothing about the rest of the donor parts for the remote (mine is one of Frank's castings, so I've never needed to look into it), but you can look through my scans of the Peterbilt wrecker parts trees here:

    www.studioscale.com

    Click on "kit photos".
     
  6. dkwd

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    That's a very helpful site!

    It looks like the Panther kit will have just enough (8 ) of the treads (part 4 - pic 8 ), but only one of parts 18 (need 16!), part 26 (need 8 ), part 15 (need 8 ). There also seems to be 4 of other part 3 (need 16). Looks like I will have to try to cast copies of the pieces.

    The Peterbilt Wrecker seems to have enough of the rims but I couldn't see abything in the pics that looked like the axle bracket - from posw.com

    David
     
  7. BrundelFly

    BrundelFly Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    What are you missing?

    I know what everything is...

    Frank Cerney
     
  8. Boba Flint

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    The wrecker will give you enough of the proper chromed rims but it does not come with the axel brackets. You will have to get a Kenworth T-600 or something similar for the axle brackets.
     
  9. dkwd

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    Hi Frank. It was your info that I saw on partsofsw. I had sent you an email from your site as well.

    I still have to get the second Hasegawa, and see if I can order the Panther and Trailer/wrecker.

    If I get the Trailer, I should be set for rims and axle brackets - otherwise I would probably need the brackets.

    The Panther I will probably need to learn to mold due to the needed number of cupolas, hatches etc versus the number that comes in the kit - mostly 1. Depending on the molding, I'll probably have to mold all 8 so they match. I'll still need to pick up the model for the treads (plus I can use the soft treads for the thermal detonator).

    Of course, I will know better once I find out which kits I can get. Either way, if I could get extra cupolas and commander rings, that would save me molding them if someone already has. There will probably be a few of the other pieces - I'll know later.

    Thanks all.

    David
     
  10. BrundelFly

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    I had a bunch molded...somewhere.
    They were Solid. Not hollowed..I used to hallow them out with a dremel. The brackets are molded too..so..if you cant find any...let me know.
    Im currently out of resin though.
    Unless I use some thats been dyed.

    Keep me posted on your luck..Ill see if I can find those cupulos.
     
  11. dkwd

    dkwd Well-Known Member

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    Will do. Thanks.

    David
     
  12. slightlyagitatedwookie

    slightlyagitatedwookie Well-Known Member

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    Hello,

    You guys probably don't know me as I mostly lurk around here because I'm pretty new to prop replicating and modelling.

    So far I've built a full scale R2-D2 (radio controlled) for props and as far as models go I've only done kits as a kid and haven't done one in years. I have a renewed interest in model building especially scratchbuilt studio scale models.

    For practice I've picked up the Pro-Shop X-wing kit to get back in shape but my first scratch built model will be the Jedi Training Remote (ah ha, here's where I get back on topic)
    as I feel it will be a relatively simple model to start with.

    I've read the POSW site (great resource BTW) to get all the kits required to build this model.

    Anyway, my question is: Is there a "kit" available of just the parts required from those kits available anywhere (ie resin copies)

    I know it's "cheating" and the fun is the "thrill of the hunt" and all, but was just curious if there was an easier solution. Even if there is somewhere to get say just one of each part. I plan to eventually learn resin casting and moulding so these parts would be a good learning experience.


    Please excuse me if this question is out of line. I will edit if required.

    Thanks for any help you can provide and my apologies if this requested is not approppriate here. Please PM me if you can help.

    slightlyagitatedwookie
     
  13. BrundelFly

    BrundelFly Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I used to sell resin castings of the ball.
    Everything was already on.

    Dont sell em anymore. Might start selling just parts..but...so far not much demand.

    I will be offering a MR Accurizing kit soon...they used a part off of my resin ball...no idea why. I sell castings of the real part...and will post a HOW TO on my site soon.
     
  14. slightlyagitatedwookie

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    Thanks for the info. I'll be following this thread!
     
  15. Coinprop

    Coinprop Well-Known Member

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    Frank (brundelfly) I have pm´d You about some questions!
    I have all the parts, except the Cupola piece and that part that is the wrong part on the MR: I sent You some money some weeks ago, I hope You have got it.
    Please PM me.

    Thanks

    Tobbe.
     
  16. dkwd

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    Okay - got second Hasegawa.
    Wasn't able to get the ERTL trailer after all so I ended up getting the Peterbilt Tractor - has the rims but I will either need axel brackets or measurements of same to scrathbuild.
    They did carry some 1/48 armor but it seems the line they carry doesn't have a Panther. I will have to check online again - I thought I came across one somewhere.

    What's on the poles of the remote?

    David
     
  17. dkwd

    dkwd Well-Known Member

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    Okay - should have a Panther G on my way from ebay. I'll see what I'm missing at that point.

    David
     
  18. dkwd

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    OKay - have two 1/48 Panthers - one of which is the Bandai PinPoint series - neither have the right commander's hatch. Is there a specific model I should be looking for?

    David
     
  19. BrundelFly

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  20. BrundelFly

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    guess not..
     
  21. dkwd

    dkwd Well-Known Member

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    I definately need the Comanders Cupola and the truck axel brackets.

    I have the 1/48 Bandai PinPoint Panther G and the 1/48 Otaki Panther Type G. Neither have the propper part.

    David
     
  22. Vinyl Guy

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  23. rpodmore

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    BrundleFly, I sent you a pm.
     
  24. BrundelFly

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    There was little interest....so I dropped the idea of offering a complete parts set.

    Frank
     
  25. osprey1111

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    Hi everyone,
    I'm a newbie on this forum. [​IMG] I was wondering if anyone still had any left-over parts or a kit of some kind available? I'm not getting my hopes up...but I thought I'd ask! Thanks!
     
  26. SPY007

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    I am building a remote. I have the ball and wrecker. Does any body offer resin casts of the other parts? It would same me a lot of searching. Thanks
     
  27. BrundelFly

    BrundelFly Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    How many people need parts? and of what?
     
  28. SPY007

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    Hey Frank:
    Thanks for posting. I'm looking for the small bits. I have the ball and truck rims and can make the styrene pieces. I can certianly track down kits and or cast parts, but seems like a lot of work. If you can help out that would be great. On a side note, I am also looking for accurate dimensions on the Thermal detonator. The 6cm listed in the best of lucas book seems small. I saw it at MOM and I'm sure it's less than 3 inches as I had made one from 3inch arcrylic ball halves, but 2.5 inches seems tiny.

    THANKS

    Perrin S.
     
  29. f1racer

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    I need all the parts available
     
  30. BrundelFly

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    You need the 1/48 Scale Panther...or Jagpanther.
    And some rubber to mold them.
    ...all the parts are in there.
    I dont have Thermal parts..or demensions.

    Frank
     
  31. osprey1111

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    Can anyone please tell me the cheapest place to get a 6-inch ball or two 6-inch hemispheres? I went to a place today and they wanted $60 each for the two hemisheres!!!
    Thanks! [​IMG]
     
  32. Zac

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    Try here:www.plastruct.com

    Click on search and and type in VHH-600 in the catalog code box.

    Zac
     
  33. osprey1111

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    Zac! You the greatest!!! Thanks so much for the help. I looked at Plastruc before but I couldn't find it without the code. Thanks again!
    [​IMG]
     
  34. SPY007

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    Hey FC. Tank kit is prooving to be a tough find, I'm still interested in cast parts. Any body els offer them? THANKS
     
  35. BrundelFly

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    Not that I know of.

    Its a hard kit these days.

    Maybe I should reconsider offering parts.
     
  36. Coop

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    I had a *ton* of parts, but my project sort of petered out when I was unable to locate one, final part. Argh!

    Anyway, I've got enough rims for at least two extra remotes and I may have more than one complete tank kit. Not sure on that however. I'll check my stash and see. If you're interested in a set of rims, drop me an e-mail at somunny@sbcglobal.net. I think about $20 shipped per set would be fair enough.

    I feel my motivation returning. Thanks guys!

    Steve
     
  37. BrundelFly

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    WHat part are ya missing?
     
  38. Coop

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    I was missing the little "cannon" looking piece that is placed around the truck rim.

    The Parts Of Star Wars website lists it as being part #3 from a Tamiya 1/48 Panther G. I have a couple of Bandai 1/48 Panthers, but none by Tamiya.

    Steve
     
  39. Zac

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    That part #3 is from the bandai 1/48 panther, not the tamiya.

    I now have all the parts and I'm just waiting on some RTV and the resin to mold them. Will post some pics soon.

    Zac
     
  40. osprey1111

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    I have a 1:35 scale Tamiya Panther Type G tank but I guess it's too big to use isn't it? [​IMG]
    Zac, I'm looking forward to your pics!
     
  41. Coop

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    Well, I've gone through all three of my Bandai 1/48 Panther G's and have not found the piece I'm looking for. The #3 piece for that model looks nothing like what they show on POSW.

    Steve
     
  42. Clerval

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    Wow, I'm getting in on one while it's hot. I have a couple of questions, as I've got my parts almost completely together and need to clarify two things. Just need to cast a few more parts and off I go, so I hope I can get some help!

    First, the commander's cupola sits over a small piece of Scotchlite. This we know. But... I can't tell from images I've seen if the Scotchlite is attached to the opening of the hatch, or if it sits flush against the body of the sphere. Any takers?

    Second, are the chrome rims backed with Scotchlite? One shot of the original makes it appear so.

    Third, were the uh... 'nipples' of the hemispheres left intact? Looks like decent detail to me, so probably going to leave them.

    That's about all I think. Will post images of IP if anyone's interested, but I think mine looks like everyone else's at this point.

    Finally, if anyone reading this has a bit of experience with pressure casting, would you PM me so I can ask another question or two?

    To be somewhat useful, this is what's going into mine:

    -Two Plastruct hemispheres, of course.
    -Bandai 1/48 Panther G, sdkfz 171 (have two, stripping one)
    -Hasegawa 1/72 M4A3 Sherman
    -Airfix 1/72 Panzer IV (this kit has the wheels with the small holes and the wheels with the posts that bevel/taper down))
    -AMT 1/25 California Hauler Peterbuilt 359- this kit has the correct rims, but I can't make myself cut it up, so I'm using the chrome rims from the T-600A and going to metallize (alclad 2) the plastic rims from the same. The T-600A also provided bracket detailing that I was incredibly happy to find! Why do I mention the CA Hauler if I'm not using it? I leave it out to remind me not to screw up the other parts. :)
    -Smooth-on RTV and resin. (Cupola, cupola hatch, muffler baffles, rifle port, towing brackets)

    How's everyone else coming along?

    EDIT: Coop, the part in question is a set of towing brackets for the tank, roughly U-shaped... one leg will have a little knob for sitting in a small recess. Anything resemble that on the kits you have?

    SECOND EDIT: that's Panzer IV, not VI! Oops...

    Thanks for the reply Zac! btw... aren't you dead? Ahem.
     
  43. Zac

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    I posted some pics of mine, they can be seen here: http://f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/jghinderliter
    Will post more later.

    Clerval, the pics I have show the scotchlite to be on the surface of the spheres. At least that is how I'm going to do mine. And yes, the rims have scotchlite behind them too.

    Can you post some pics of the airfix panzer IV that you have? I would like to see what parts it has to offer.

    Zac
     
  44. Clerval

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    All right... time for everybody's favorite gameshow... 'Happy or Right?'!

    I was setting up the layout on the sphere to mark the location for the rims and the styrene disc around them. I got to realizing that I hit a brick wall:

    Because of the few images that I have, I can't tell if the styrene disc was engineered properly or quickly (read on to see why I think not both). It would be faster to have taken a piece of styrene, marked a 7/8 hole and then eye-balled or guesstimated a nice circumference around that, cut out the disc, the center hole, split it in half and attached it to the sphere. Only... since this isn't a concentric element any longer, it now becomes an oval or ellipse.

    I would have taken the time to work out a concentric disc and used that. Each would be about 54mm across, with thickness of 12mm and a roughly 7mm channel down the middle. One would look perfectly formed to the sphere, the other not, but would have been a bit faster (not much really, to be honest, but in production...)

    Anyone have any good views of the rims that shows whether the rings are actually ellipses or if they're circles?

    I can put up a diagram tomorrow; I drew it out but right now my ftp app isn't playing nice, and I'm going to get a bit peeved if I keep trying it tonight.

    Off to sulk. I knew this was going too smoothly...

    EDIT: My thank yous thank WACKYCHIMP's image hosting...!

    [​IMG]
     
  45. BrundelFly

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    Have you guys looked at my web page on the remote above???

    Let me answer what I can below:


    First, the commander's cupola sits over a small piece of Scotchlite. This we know. But... I can't tell from images I've seen if the Scotchlite is attached to the opening of the hatch, or if it sits flush against the body of the sphere. Any takers?

    ITS AGAINST THE PLASTRUCT SPHERE


    Second, are the chrome rims backed with Scotchlite? One shot of the original makes it appear so.

    YES


    Third, were the uh... 'nipples' of the hemispheres left intact? Looks like decent detail to me, so probably going to leave them.

    YES...WITH 4 HOLES DRILLED AROUND THEM...



    Finally, if anyone reading this has a bit of experience with pressure casting, would you PM me so I can ask another question or two?

    I DO!!!!!!1


    ALso...someo said they could not find the CANNON.

    Remember..its the U bracket in the PANTHER MODEL.
    The one on MASTER REPLICAS...is NOT ACCCURATE.
    They Just remolded mine, or SCANNED IT.
    It should be a U CANNON.

    See here:

    <img src=http://www.hobbymatrix.com/models/remote/build/ring4.jpg>
     
  46. osprey1111

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    Hi BrundelFly,
    Are you considering doing another run of the cast parts needed for this? As I mentioned above, I only have the 1/35th scale Tamiya Panther model so I guess it won't work.
    Thanks.
     
  47. BrundelFly

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    I never did a run of these.
    There wasnt enough interest.

    If you are having trouble findting kits....try EBAY.

    Frank
     
  48. osprey1111

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    Hi Frank,
    I purchased a Tamiya Panther Type G tank that was mislabeled as 1/48th scale but when it arrived it was 1/35th. Total disappointment.
     
  49. BrundelFly

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    that sucks.
    Keep trying...they are out there.

    I have the U brackets cast....send me 5 bucks and a SASE and Ill send a set.

    Frank
     
  50. osprey1111

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    Thanks Frank. My search continues...[​IMG]
     

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