Too Much Garlic
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And lawyers love to spew such garbage to get their coward murdering client off the hook and back into society where they can do more ****.
Is our Culture making killers?
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Kerr Avon
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I think someone just posted about a 1927 school shooting. 3 years isn't close enough? :behave
Anyway, if you believe there's a causative relationship, I recommend you start a grass roots petition to have all violence forbidden on TV in the People's Republik of Kalifornia. I'm sure that'll help the dwindling movie industry there too, and give me more reason to never go there.
Too Much Garlic
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I blame constant commercials and reality shows. God damned, they are enough to drive any person insane.
DuneMuadDib
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Guess you couldn't be bothered to read Unresponsible's post two posts above yours.
To wit, Andrew Kehoe bombed three schools in 1927, killing 45 and injuring at least 58.
jlee562
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I think someone just posted about a 1927 school shooting. 3 years isn't close enough? :behave
Anyway, if you believe there's a causative relationship, I recommend you start a grass roots petition to have all violence forbidden on TV in the People's Republik of Kalifornia. I'm sure that'll help the dwindling movie industry there too, and give me more reason to never go there.
Actually friend, you seem to have misread my post, because I was explaining that there IS NOT a causal relationship. Nor am I for the censorship of violence.
Instead of projecting your preconceived notions of Californians on me, perhaps you'd like to deal with the substance of what I wrote.
Too Much Garlic
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I blame those who oppose neutering these SOBs so they can't breed and spread their insanity. I blame those who allow visitors to these SOBs in jail. I blame those women who write, visit, fall in love, marry, have kids with these SOBs.
However... just on a more serious note. No... I only blame the killer, for being a coward.
However... just on a more serious note. No... I only blame the killer, for being a coward.
Too Much Garlic
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Commercials and reality shows? Goddamned yes I do mean they are plain evil.
1920s and no gun was used........
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It's the person.
Populations go up, odds are you will have more incidents.
Sick nutters have been with us since the beginning.
Look all through history and you will find them.
Blaming modern films, weapons, news, books, as if somehow
you change those things nothing bad will happen again is folly.
I blame crappy parents and cultures that embrace actual
criminal violence. (we have lots of that in America)
It's a people problem. Not an object, not a weapon, not a film, not
a law, not a comic book. None of those things are to blame.
Bath School disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's the person.
Populations go up, odds are you will have more incidents.
Sick nutters have been with us since the beginning.
Look all through history and you will find them.
Blaming modern films, weapons, news, books, as if somehow
you change those things nothing bad will happen again is folly.
I blame crappy parents and cultures that embrace actual
criminal violence. (we have lots of that in America)
It's a people problem. Not an object, not a weapon, not a film, not
a law, not a comic book. None of those things are to blame.
DuneMuadDib
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As population increases does the percentage of the population that commits homicide also increase? How do you quantify the crime rate, total crimes or crimes in relation to population? What's worse, 1 homicide in a population of 10, or 2 in a population of 15? Yes, the latter is more overall, but the former is a lower ratio.
The number of homicides per 100,000 population has decreased in the US over the past 20 years.
The number of homicides per 100,000 population has decreased in the US over the past 20 years.
NAZGÛL
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Kerr Avon
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I would say 'defective' rather than 'evil' With as many people as we have, there are bound to be defective individuals who can't exist with others peacefully.
Too Much Garlic
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Unknown, but they surely have some defect, whether it was always there or through bad parenting, who knows. Blaming anything else is just running the killers' errands and excusing their actions and responsibility for said actions. They are to blame. It doesn't matter what inspired them. They took it upon themselves to go out and do the deeds. Blaming and punishing anybody or anything other than those cowardly creeps is just wrong.
That's the first step of censorship and control over the rest of the population just because a few ****tard cowards can't control their sick little urges.
jlee562
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There is no universal correlation between population size and homicide rate. There are too many other causal factors in play. Some such factors may be per capita income, level of political corruption, stability of government,
Per capita rates, which for crime statistics, generally uses a sample of 100k, are standard.
NAZGÛL
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Just read statistics over the murders in Sweden. Numbers for 1700 - today. It got higher in the middle of 1800, to drop lower again. After 1940 it raised and after 1979 it has been on the same level. Intersting enough it has been close to 100 murders/year since 1980. Since the swedish poulation has grown, killings are less common today.
DuneMuadDib
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By which measure the crime rate has fallen over the past 20 years.
Kerr Avon
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Some places it's spiked. Chicago, for instance, is the murder capital. There might be a correlation there, but it's not movies. :behave
Too Much Garlic
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Maybe they are pissed about their hot dogs.
Rotwang
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I think that films, books and other media can reinforce anybody's delusions. Just cross-reference Tolkien with the average Black Metal band and you'd think that Lord of the Rings is a neo-nazi pagan handbook that promotes extreme violence, race war and ludicrously overblown music ...
But the fact is that the delusions are often already in place and the violent media only helps to reinforce certain thoughts of violence.
But the fact is that the delusions are often already in place and the violent media only helps to reinforce certain thoughts of violence.
DuneMuadDib
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Well overall for the country. Too lazy to look up Miami, LA, Detroit, NY, and Chicago specifically.
20 years of decreasing national crime rates. I'll bet there's more media outlets, and with it more media coverage now than 20 years ago.
There I go being absurd again
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